president to not just directly but also indirectly to order the irs or other agencies to investigate someone harry so when you look at this as part of this investigation and the part of that lawsuit that peter strzok last filed what do you make of the fact that it's trump's chief of staff cellini a sworn statement saying that this is something he talked about that he had questioned whether or not this could happen? >> pretty credible i think and as kelly said of a larger vendetta on his part, and look. something very important happened today in this lawsuit. the judge said that trump himself now has to be deposed, that department of justice resisted and said it's not necessary and the junk said no, no, no, we have and kelly assertions is big part of that and it's not just about struck and page but vendetta.

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