be concerned about those numbers, particularly in battleground states where you know the number will be very, very tight. >> you were briefly part of the administration. >> sure. >> your old boss works there as part of cabinet. >> yeah. >> yeah, yeah, yeah, ben carson. do you get a sense that it is a legit interest from this president to get african-american support? i'm surprised he doesn't have ben carson out there. >> that gets complicated but any other type of president, you see the numbers decreased significantly from when president obama came into office to the end of his campaign. i thi think his rational pronouncements, as latasha knows very well, completely turns them off. i don't know how he can find success in this arena. >> let me pick up on that whole tremaine lee sitdown he had in atlanta there. he spoke with one of the voters