Foreign governments reportedly patronize trumps properties. A windfall for the family business. We cover it all this morning with eric trump the man running the trump organization. A this week exclusive. The response from Biden Campaign cochair Cedric Richmond. Our brand new abc News Washington post poll and a closer look at independent voters in arizona and an analysis from our powerhouse round table. Announcer its this week. Here now jonathan karl. Good morning and welcome to this week. Days since the president announced he had been infected with coronavirus and six days since his doctors have answered any questions about his condition or his treatment. While his physician says the president is no longer contagious, the American Public is still in the dark about basic questions such as when the president last tested negative for covid and whether he is now completely in the clear of the disease. 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This morning well be joined by biden cochair Cedric Richmond and eric trump on behalf of the Trump Campaign. Eric, we start with you. Thank you for joining us. Ill get you to respond to the New York Times story. Lets start with the rally at the white house. Ive got to say, the president , your father, certainly looked to be himself. Are you any concern about him getting back out on the campaign trail . Jon, my father is doing great. I speak to him every day. He sounds great. Hes a true warrior. Hes working incredibly hard. We should talk about that. Everybody who attended the white house event yesterday had their temperatures checked. It was outdoor. They were Wearing Masks. Now we get that out of the way. I see hundreds of protests across the country that you guys unfortunately dont cover oftentimes where people are literally burning down cities. Theyre burning down cities. No one is Wearing Masks. Theyre never condemned. A beautiful protest by africanamericans, latino americans going to the white house to support Law Enforcement in this country is criticized by abc. Its an incredible thing. They took every precaution. Temperature checks. Masks. Outside. It was a beautiful event. Why is it that its only trump events called out . Why are these protests we see all over the place new york, portland, seattle. I see them everywhere. Antifa is going wild. No one ever talks about them Wearing Masks. Yet a beautiful protest in front of the white house to support men and women in Law Enforcement becomes subject of an abc show at 9 00 a. M. On a sunday morning. Its eric, to be clear im not let me finish. Ive lost a lot of faith in the media. I really have. Eric, to be clear im not criticizing. Im reporting the fact. Actually i did notice something ive not seen at the white house until yesterday. That is an event where most people are Wearing Masks. Is that an admission it was a mistake to have activities at the white house including the Amy Coney Barrett with people not Wearing Masks . I got to say people were Wearing Masks yesterday at the white house. Jon, everybody you know this. You report from there every single day. Everybody who goes within 500 yards of the white house is tested every day. Its a different apparatus in that machine. Again, i find the hypocrisy so crazy. You see these massive riots and protests in these liberal run cities and no one is Wearing Masks. No one cares. No one cares. The media doesnt talk about it. How many have we had in new york and chicago . The media never talks about that. When you have peaceful trump rally at the white house in support of Law Enforcement, cnn cuts away. Msnbc cuts away. They dont want to show the support. Its just its mind blowing to me. I mean, we have covered the protests. I see a lot of protesters Wearing Masks as well. On your fathers condition, when he spoke to rush limbaugh, he suggested there was a moment where he thought he might not make it. How bad did it get . Yeah. Listen, that first day he got hit hard, friday. As a son, its never fun to watch your father fly off to walter reed on marine one. Its a day no son wants to remember. Its no fun to watch. Im telling you i spoke to him three times the next saturday. The guy sounded 100 . It was amazing. It goes to speak to how good some of the vaccines are. What my father did on a vaccine front, no one could have done. No one could have done. Biden was calling my father xenophobic. For shutting down america from travel to china. The virus came from china. My father started day one creating this vaccine. He worked to push this vaccine. Now my father just took it. You see how well wait its an inspiration. As americans can you clarify that . You said your father just took a vaccine . When he was in walter reed, the medicines he was taking. The therapeutics . Friday he felt horrible. I spoke to him on saturday. He sounded tremendous. It shows the power of medicine in this country and how far weve come on covid in the last six, seven months. It looks like the Debate Commission has said there will be a debate on october 22nd, an inperson debate. You looat fst in cleveland, u d other members of the trump team were violating the rules that the Commission Set in terms of Wearing Masks in the hall. We even saw karen pence at the vp debate get on stage without a mask. Given the concerns, will you commit the trump team will abide by the safety precautions the commission put in place at the next debate . Will you be Wearing Masks . Jon, im happy to wear a mask. Im happy to wear a mask. Whats interesting the real story should be how biden backed out of the debate thats supposed to take place in miami thursday. He didnt want to stand on the stage with my father. That should tell you everything you need to know about him. My father wants nothing more well, i mean biden wouldnt show up. The only thing he would do is he would do a zoom call. My father is a traditional guy. He didnt want to do a glorified Conference Call for a president ial debate. To be clear im happy to wear a mask. To be clear, it was your father that pulled out of the debate. The Commission Said it was a virtual debate. It was your father that pulled out of the debate. Are you ruling out is a virtual debate something you wont agree to at all . The next debate has to be in person . Anonthe stage with his o. Stood there and deteall. He wants to stand on the stage. He wants to look somebody in the eyes. Bidens not willing to do that. Biden is willing to go to pennsylvania or some state and do a town hall standing on stage with three or four people. He wont stand on the same stage as my father. My father doesnt want to do a Conference Call debate. He wants to stand on the same stage as a person. Gotcha. So thats been done forever. My father is still willing to do it. He wants to do the debate in miami on thursday. If joe wants to accept, hell be there. Vice president pence when he debated Kamala Harris said it was a privilege to be on the stage with her, recognized her historymaking pick as bidens running mate. The next day your father said she was a monster. Why . How is Kamala Harris a monster . Why did he say that . Well, you know, there are a lot of stances she takes are mind boggling. Shes come out and called to abolish law enforce. Shes compared i. C. E. To the kkk in senate hearings. Shes wants to demolish Law Enforcement. She wants to take away 180 million private health care plans. She wanted to limit the amount of red meat americans could eat. Eric, political differences. You mischaracterized her positions in that litany. Political differences are one thing. A monster . Calling the democratic Vice President ial nominee a monster, i dont get it. Jon, youre dealing with a person who is willing to lie every day. Its amazing who . One day theyre calling for Kamala Harris and joe biden. Lets abolish all Law Enforcement. Then they get to pennsylvania and they no longer want to abolish Law Enforcement. They eric, im sorry. They havent called for abolishing Law Enforcement. Lets stick with the facts. Lets move to the New York Times story. Its a big story in the New York Times. Lets go back to that. Biden wants to defund police. He wants to reallocate funding for police. Hes clearly stated lots of times he doesnt want to defund the police. Let me ask you about the New York Times story. Their investigative series on the president s tax documents. They write, quote, over 200 companies, special Interest Groups and foreign governments patronized mr. Trumps properties while reaping benefits from him and his administration. Heres some of the specifics on this graphic. Five members of maralago offered ambassadorship. One company granted ten new federal contracts worth 1. 3 billion and the president would ask what guests at his properties wanted from the government. Let me ask you lots of specifics in this story. You guys didnt respond to the New York Times. Heres your chance. Whats your response . My response to that is we lost a fortune. My father has lost a fortune running for president. He doesnt care. He wanted to do what was right. The last thing donald trump needs is this job. He wakes up in the morning and he has to fight you and the entire media and the democrats and he gets punched in the head every single day. He wakes up and he fights for this country and fights against the lunacy of the radical left. He created the greatest economy. He created the most jobs. He rebuilt the military. Were no longer getting ripped off by mexico and china and were no longer getting ripped off in terms of health care. Eric, back to the story jon, he doesnt need this job. My father has lost a fortune, an absolute fortune doing what he does. Compare that to joe biden back to this story. How is it appropriate let me finish. Answer the question, please. Please. Go google bidens house right now and tell me if you think that a person who has been in government for 47 years, 47 years, can afford that mansion on the water in wilmington, delaware. They cant. Eric i would ask you to will you address what the New York Times revealed in their investigation which is all these companies and individuals who have spent money at Trump Properties that have gone on to get Big Government contracts and other favors from the Trump Administration . How is that not at the very least a huge appearance of a conflict of interest . Were a hospitality company. We have tens of millions of people staying at our Properties Every year. The New York Times is absolute fake news. All they want to do is take down my father. Whats interesting about the New York Times im glad you mentioned them. Every single day, every single day starting literally the morning of the debate theyve dropped some story that theyve been sitting on for literally the last six months or year of two years to influence the election. Its horrible. I mean, you know, the media is gone in this country. The media is gone in this country. When i hear the tone of this conversation i mean, the media has become the activist arm for the Democratic Party. Nothing is fair. Eric, were asking legitimate questions. One last one. The New York Times report said that the president owes some 400 million. Dont the American People have a right to know who he is indebted to, who the president of the United States owes money to . Can you clarify that for us . Jon, its in his Financial Disclosures. You know who the money is owed to. Thats another democratic talking point. You know who i dont on a proportion of his net worth my father has low leverage. The New York Times, if you want to bring them into this, they came out and said this the other day. If you own buildings, if you own real estate, you carry debt. Thats what developers do. Thats what Business Owners do. They carry some debt. As a proportion of his net worth its incredibly low. We have a phenomenal company. Theres nothing new about that. Its the same debt he got elected on. Its all fully disclosed in his Financial Disclosure forms that you have access to. Eric, thank you for joining us. I appreciate your time on this sunday morning. Thank you. Lets get a response from the cochair of the Biden Campaign, congressman Cedric Richmond. First, let me begin with that discussion on the debates. The commission has said october 22nd for an inperson debate. Any doubt in your mind that inperson debate will happen and joe biden will be there and the two of them will be on the same stage together . I know joe biden wants to debate donald trump again. Americans saw the disaster that donald trump had in the first debate. Well do what we did from the beginning of this campaign and pandemic. Well listen to the american experts and scientists. Here its the cleveland clinic. Theyve set up the protocols. If donald trump is covid free and the protocols are set up to protect the health, not only of joe biden, but the health of the families that attend, the health of the camera men, the health of everyone, the janitors in the building see, joe biden cares so much more about American People. Its not about joe biden in his mind. Its about everybody else. He will not put americans in harms way of this great pandemic and dangerous virus si political gain. He wont do that. He will listen to the cleveland clinic, which is who will control the debate protocols. Well go from there. We would love to see it. We want to see it in a town hall format. Will the Vice President , Vice President biden, agree to a third debate on the 29th of october as the Trump Campaign proposed . Well, look, i dont know about a third debate. We need to get to the second debate. Lets be clear. We just heard eric trump incoherent, rambling, lies and babbling. Some of the things that he said, the American People need to hear the truth. Senator harris is not a monster. I would hope he was dignified enough to say that. We never called for abolishing. R anxpands h theyre in court right now trying to take Health Care Away from 20 million americans in the middle of a pandemic to take away coverage for preexisting conditions. Those are the things he wont get to. I will answer your questions. I hope we get a chance to go over all that nonsense we just heard. Let me ask you about something thats come up and came up in the vp debate, something Vice President biden has been asked about a lot. Its where he stands on the issue of expanding the Supreme Court. I mean, he said this was an answer he would give after the election. This is a big issue. Can you clarify, first of all, what is the answer . Does he support expanding the Supreme Court . One, thats a better question for me. Im in congress. It would take legislation from the United States congress and the United States senate to do it. I think joe biden and senator harris are clear. Its a distraction. We should not be talking about a hypothetical Court Packing once this nominee is confirmed. When were talking about packing, were talking about the judges hes packing on the court right now. Right now okay, but give me a second. Hes urging the senate to go in and spend every waking moment to confirm this judge as opposed to with 23 days left until an election, as opposed to passing a coronavirus Economic Relief bill for people who cant pay their bills right now. He packed the Circuit Court with 50 judges. I bet he didnt mention that to black or brown people yesterday at his wteou ray. Out of 50 Circuit Court judges on the Circuit Court. When you talk about Court Packing, thats what theyre doing. To answer that question would be a distraction. You said youre a member of congress. We can ask you. Youre the cochair of the campaign. Where do you stand on the issue of expanding the Supreme Court . Are you in favor of it . Actually i want to spend my time making sure donald trump loses and two making sure we dont confirm this judge. Womens reproductive rights are at stake. Civil rights are at stake. Thats what we should focus on. Not a hypothetical should we expand the Supreme Court. You wont answer the question . Its a legitimate question to ask, but its a distraction. Let me ask you about the Vice President s tax proposal. He said he wont raise taxes on anybody making less than 400,000 a year. The analysis put forward shows middle income earners making between 50 and 90,000 a year will see an increase of 260. Is he wrong about this . I mean, it looks like there will be some increase for middle income earners under this tax plan. They have a different interpretation. The truth of the matter is the plan has been evaluated by several Economic Policy groups. Most of them say that no middle class tax payer will see a tax increase. When you look at expanding the Affordable Care act and all the things he wants to do, i think were on very firm footing. The Fact Checkers will confirm that our plan, in fact, would not raise taxes on the middle class, but those who make over 400,000 a year so we can invest in the American People. Let me ask you, Kamala Harris in the vp debate said that she wanted to repeal the bush the trump tax cuts on day one. Do away entirely with the law. Obviously the trump tax cuts lowered significantly lowered the tax rate for lower income earners. The Tax Policy Center found that middle income workers saw 900 a year in tax savings. Repealing the trump tax cuts, full on repeal, that does raise taxes on middle income earners, doesnt it . No, look, i agree i agree that policy center would take that opinion. What we have seen our goal is to not raise taxes on anyone making less than 400,000. When you see our legislation that will come up day one or day two in the administration, it will not raise taxes on people making less than 400,000 a year. We are out of time. I want to clarify one thing in terms of voting. Youve encouraged people to vote in person if they can. Vote early in person. Is that now the message that democrats are putting out there . If you have to vote by mail, but if you can, vote in person . Were telling people to take advantage of early vote in person. Im on the ballot in new orleans and louisiana started early voting yesterday. Im encouraging people to take advantage of the process. Early vote in person is a great way to do it. It reduces lines on election day. 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Were out here every day. Four hours a day. Reporter they get honks, thumbs up, the occasional middle finger. They wave back at them all. Its our therapy. Its better than sitting on the couch watching the news doing nothing. Reporter life long republicans until 2016 they werent fans of donald trump. They voted for gary johnson, this november theyll proudly vote democrat. Is there anything in particular that put you over the edge . We were sort of already there. Charlottesville is the time when i said enough. Right now in the republican party, if youre not a fan in the cult of donald trump, youre not welcome. They will tell you that. You dont feel welcome . Oh, no. Not at all. As a matter of fact, when we sit out there with our signs one of the things we hear the most often is go home. Were trying to figure out since were at the end of our own driveway where home is supposed to be. Reporter Arizona StatePublic Affairs professor, dr. Tom riley have turned this bright red state purpose and could push it blue. Independents are trending towards biden by a whopping 25 points in the latest New York Times poll. Were seeing general frustration to the divisiveness occurring in washington and across the United States. People are searching for a different way. Reporter thats especially noticeable among latino voters. Theyre taking it for granted saying theyre latinos and will lean democrat. Thats not the case. Reporter caroline doesnt like how latino voters have been taken for granted. Born and raised in the dominican republic, she came to the u. S. During her college years. She voted for obama in 08 and has ping ponged between parties ever since. Despite being disappointed in the lack of focus on the key issues, she will vote for biden. A lot of the Democratic Party has been neglecting the issue of immigration. Theyre up for grabs. Theyre having a hard time making a decision which way to go because no one is addressing the issues that matter to them. Reporter Maricopa County has the largest voting area in the state. The county went for trump by 3 points in 2016. He following through on what he says. Reporter barb also voted for gary johnson in 2016, but likes what shes seen from donald trump. Our economy has stayed fairly stable. That to me is astonishing considering the number of people who are out of jobs because they cant go in. Hes allowing the states to make the decisions for themselves, which is what it should be. Reporter the one thing we found all the voters we talked to here want, turn down the temperature a little bit. I pray to get back to a country where we can have conversations where we dont agree on every issue and we can be friends. I know that sounds rather cliche. Thats my deepest prayer. Reporter for this week im alex presha in carefree, arizona. The round table is up next. Were back in 60 im feeling great. I dont know about you. How is everybody feeling . Were starting very, very big with our rallies because we cannot allow our country to we havm socialist nation. Cannp rit w, than we had four years ago by a factor of three times, and we had a lot. President trump back at it yesterday. Lets break it down with the round table. Abc News White House correspondent rachel scott, Associated PressWashington Bureau chief julie pace, po former chicago mayor rahm emanuel a lonnie chang, a fellow at stanfords hoover institution. Got to start with that eric trump interview. I want to ask you, lonnie, we have a new abc News Washington post poll that shows a 12point National Lead for joe biden. Its the latest in a series of polls that show the same thing. The Battle Ground state polls showing a significant edge for biden. Did eric sound like somebody who thinks theyre losing . No. He definitely did not sound like someone who thinks theyre losing. The big question is what is going to be the narrative this last 20 some odd days in this campaign thats going to help change the dynamic for the Trump Campaign. If the public polling is to be believed nationally, as well as the Battle Ground states, they have a lot of ground to make up. Every day the Trump Campaign is fighting about covid and the Covid Response and questions about the president s health status, those are not good days for that campaign. If theyre talking about fracking and whether the tax cuts that they passed will be repealed and that leads to a tax increase, those are better days. This coming week with the Amy Coney Barrett confirmation hearings, those are opportunities for the Trump Campaign. Its a question of what this campaign is going to be doing, what theyll focus on. The more they talk about issues relating to covid, the more challenging the environment will be. Its going to be hard to find the Game Changing opportunities they need to turn this campaign around. Rahm, what did you make of that performance . When i look at this, jon, its a referendum of donald trump. He has never changed the narrative. Theres two types of reelection. What Ronald Reagan and bill clinton did or what barack obama and george bush did, making a binary choice. Trump has not done that. Hesadit about himself. His entire four years have been about himself. The American People have actually issued a judgment about the way hes handled covid, the economy, bringing the country together rather than dividing it. In my view with 27 days they still dont have a vision for the future and its selfevident and thats why groups that used to vote for republican and for donald trump are recoiling from the character of his presidency. They want change. That change is a return to normalcy. Im basically its a it was a microcosm that this is a referendum on donald trump. They have no message on the future. The voters have issued their judgment about that. Julie, i thought it was interesting that eric said his father had taken a vaccine which is obviously not true. I mean, at this point with all the discussion i dont know. What did you make of that . Yeah, that caught my attention as well. Certainly there is no vaccine thats approved. It appears as though eric was misspeaking and referring to therapeutics and the treatment the president had which the president is touting and tried to focus on those as opposed to a vaccine because it doesnt appear the vaccine will happen before the election. Thats one of those things the president has been promising. Now the focus is on getting americans the treatment he had. That treatment is not available for most americans. Were dealing with apples and oranges when it comes to the president s treatment. Hes the president of the United States. You would expect him to get Exceptional Health care. Its not the Health Care Available to most americans who are suffering from this virus right now. In fact, the regeneron treatment, only ten people in the country have taken it. Maybe the president is number 11. A little unclear. Rachel, theyre clearly trying to do a reset for the campaign. I mean, hes got a busy schedule next few dayfor the what do u see ahd r trum its going to be a very busy and Aggressive Campaign schedule for the president. Sources tell us he plans to be back on the campaign trail every day this week. The messaging that ive been hearing from Campaign Officials is what we heard from eric trump today. The president is a fighter. Hes beat the virus. Now hes going to go on to recover the nations economy. The fact of the matter is the president is returning to the campaign trail when hes down in the polls by double digits. His handling of the pandemic is under fire, the majority of the americans disapproving of his handling of the pandemic and when his campaign is strapped for cash. The single best issue for the president is the economy. Even more so than the pandemic, registered voters in our latest poll say that issue, the economy, is the most important issue for them. He has a lot of ground to make up with just a few weeks to go. It was reported he wanted to have a superman suit on, to rip out and reveal a superman shirt on underneath. Jon, i think the white house event became a super spreader and a metaphor for whats untangled and unbound about this presidency. He undermined everything confidence that people have in the president , the administration to handle a National PandemicHealth Crisis and also, therefore, the economy. It became a metaphor where they realized and had given up on the president and his administration for handling whether its the economy or not. The big issue for the American People is moving forward. The fact they held an event thats being dubbed a super spreader event underscores everything the american feel insecure about with a second Trump Administration. That event will be the biggest footnote about his presidency and why he lost the election. You can say the economy is number one. Whats underpinning it is whether he has a steady hand on the till. That event and disregard for science will become what undermines his presidency, or continues to. Julie, on that you have the president is going to be out at campaign events. Theyll be packed events im sure. We saw what we saw at the white house, although people were Wearing Masks. Is there any chance this debate on the 22nd doesnt happen . Do biden and the commission really agree to an event in person if the president continues to go the way hes been going . Look, i think based on the way the last couple weeks have gone, its hard to predict what happens a couple weeks out from now because everything hands so tumultuous. I think this is something that the Biden Campaign is going to be watching carefully. If trump is out having these large events, what does that do in terms of staff, putting his staff at risk, other people around him who would be at this event . Joe biden is not a young man. There are concerns about keeping him safe through the duration of this campaign. I think everything, when it comes to the debates and these two men being on stage together, we should consider up in the air until the moment they step on to those debate stages. Lonnie, how worried are republicans down ballot . We saw Mitch Mcconnell come out and say he hasnt been at the white house in more than two months. We saw representative cornyn say some critical things about the way the president has handled this. Martha mcsally refusing to say whether thats proud of her support from donald trump. Are you starting to get a sense that republicans are starting to get nervous and distance themselves from the president . This has been the fundamental challenge for republicans running in these contested statewide races. On one hand you have to ensure the trump base, those who support the president , they turn out to support you. Youre not going to win a campaign if youre Joannie Ernst in iowa, or Martha Mcsally in arizona, you need that base to show up. The more closely you tie yourself to the president the more challenging its become to gain the support of undecided voters, swing voters, some of the voters you interviewed in arizona who have gone between the parties. Its more challenging for them. You have to make a decision. Do you continue to tether strongly to the president or do you not . In some districts youre seeing people do that. Youre seeing some tying themselves very closely to the president. In other places, mcsally, Joannie Ernst, you have those who are running good campaigns otherwise, who are good candidates, theyre making the decision were going to run to be a leader of a particular state. Theyre trying to be more independent of the president. That probably is the right strategy given what theyre seeing in the numbers and the president s weakness on covid. That does seem to be an oef overriding issue. Youll continue to see over the next 20 days as this campaign winds down these candidates make an effort to say dont worry about the president. Dont worry about the republican party. Think about if you want me as your incumbent. I think that is going to be the compelling message for some of these candidates down the stretch. Jon, can i bring up one point thats relevant in our poll . You have one of the biggest gender gaps ever recorded for a president ial election. Look at two events this week three actually. One is the president of the United States calls Kamala Harris a monster. Second, in that debate Vice President mike pence continues to interrupt senator harris and not allow her to finish and also does that to the moderator. Third, when the governor of michigan, her life is threatened, rather than reach out to her and see if shes okay and thank the fbi for great work the president of the United States attacks the governor of michigan. They have a massive gender problem and they are doubling down on that problem by continuing to attack women who have accomplished a great deal. Im surprised what they have done in the last week. You can see it in our own poll. You have the largest spread ever. Theres a hostility to women who are in elected office or in business by this administration and their exacerbating what is clearly a problem. Not just on the policies, but a culture way that have alienated women voters of all economic, educational of ethnic and racial background. Its selfevident. Rachel, we have Supreme Court confirmation hearings beginning this week. Do you have any sense that the campaign is trying to make that more of a central issue . They havent succeeded. Its obvious the controversy over the decision to go forward. We dont hear much from them. What will they do to make that an issue instead of coronavirus . This is an issue the campaign was trying to rally their base around. Remember the chants of fill that seat 24 hours after Ruth Bader Ginsburg passed away. There were chants of that at one of the president s rallies there. Look, the campts this toorhe ents base. Wt eisupporrso believe the es conservative majority. There are questions lingering about abortion and roe versus wade. We saw the Vice President not committing on whether he would like to see roe versus wade overturned, even though thats something he had said in the past. He said that in 2016 in a fox news interview and even some Vulnerable Senate republicans trying to create distance on that front. A lot of it has to do with public polling. When you look at a cbs news poll from june, 49 of republicans say they want roe versus wade stay as it is. They want the focus to turn away from this pandemic and more to issues like cementing the conservative majority on the court. Rahm, i got to ask you. What is with the nonanswer on packing the Supreme Court . I mean, why doesnt he answer this question . How is it okay to say ill tell you the day after the election . First of all, i know the Vice President. He was former chairman of the judiciary committee. Hes trying to restore the legitimacy of the court. Unpack the court. You have five members of the Supreme Court nominated by president s who never won the majority of the vote. Democrats should be talking about well expand the lower courts on the federal level and restrict what the Supreme Court does. Look at what they did on Lily Ledbetter and voting rights. They started to legislate from the beh. Athave to step bacd look at the first bill president obama signed regarding Lily Ledbetter. It was a legislative reaction to the Supreme Court decision. Jon, it was lonnie, jump in here. Let me finish. You havent answered the question. This court is going to put women back in alleys and gays back in the closet and workers back in the lonnie, i want you to step in here. Democrats dont want to answer the question. The barrett confirmation hearings are important. By the way to bring thank you to our round table. Were out of time. That is all for us. Tune in on thursday. George stephanopoulos will anchor a town hall meeting with Vice President biden and voters for a special edition of 20 20. Have a great day