if abraham lincoln, teddy roosevelt, ike eisenhower or ronald reagan showed up to the meeting today. they would be thoroughly booed at this point in time. it'sin seeped in. it's part of the ecosystem of cpac, part of the ecosystem of the republican party. and that's what the fundamental problem today in democracy is. we have two legacy parties but only one that currently supports democracy as it stands, and is willing to dealst from a place facts. and i think that's what we have to all struggle with in the media and in politics, how do we deal with a political party that ispo no longer honest? >> i want to drill down on that, matt. take a listen first to what republican congressman adam kinzinger said today earlier on "meet the press." >> to all of my colleagues in politics, let megu say this to you. you either have to be a zombie for the maga belief system, whatever that is today or tomorrow, it varies every day based on donald trump's whims, or actually stand up and tell your constituents the truth. >> i just wonder, matt, if there