Closing arguments this afternoon. Hes attempting to disqualify the District Attorney in her office, and is losing her case against donald. Trump and hanging above all of this is the Supreme Court which is looking to take Donald Trumps claims of immunity away the sequel. Donald trump strategies delay, delay, delay. After that, should he become president , i dont think any of it is going to get hurt. The truth front runners traveling to the southern border making dueling appearances. Lets get together and get it done. Its a biden invasion over the past three years. One man who wants to work with republicans to get something done, the border one man wants to keep the issue alive. Good evening once again, im stephanie ruhle. It is just 249 days into the election. And there is one word to sum up this last week. Delay. The lay of the Criminal Court Case against donald trump, delay as Congress Kicks the can again to fund the government. And delay on taking real action to fix our southern border. Lets get smarter and bring in our nightcap. Nbc legal analyst and criminal Defense AttorneysDanny Cevallos is here. Dan nathan with cnbcs fast money, basil smikle, democratic strategist and former Executive Director of the New York State democratic party, and comedian, john feudal. All right, gentlemen. Lets start with the many, many cases against donald trump. John, i turn to you first. The Supreme Court is now going to take up this Immunity Case for trump which no matter how they decide is getting more delays, right . Delay, delay, delay. Has he already won giving where we are . No, one what . His defense has been slow play this, and thats exactly whats been happening. These delays will all be forgotten. There is no way he wins this race with karma. Listen, this Supreme Court, i have to say, im convinced theyre the best court money could buy. Seriously. Bribed back better. Bribed back better. Hes gonna get everything he wants from them. When you look at this court, delaying, this trying as hard as they can and i have no problem with this case. This Election Interference Case is the biggest case in the history of this country. I mean 220 odd years of peaceful transfer of power until this. Its huge. If it starts right before the election, im fine with that. Im fine with voting during a commercial break. But people have got to look at this and realize how rigged this is. And these six justices, youve got two of them appointed by george w. Bush with the majority of americans voted against when you got to the white house. Three of them appointed by donald trump with the majority of americans voted against twice. And the sixth, clarence thomas, by george h. W. Bush who oppose this 64 civil rights act. Americans dont choose the justices who choose our laws for us. And this highlights that. Danny, can we talk about what the Supreme Court is looking at . They could make a decision that says, a u. S. Citizen can operate above the law with no consequence. If they do side with donald trump, where does that leave us . It would be monumental. On the one hand, the mere fact that they are taking this case up speaks volumes because the very easily couldve, and many people predicted they might just say, look, the District Court issued an opinion, it was well reasoned. The d. C. Circuit court of appeals issued a well reasoned opinion. Theres not a whole lot of debate here. Everybody seems to be an abuse agreement. They couldve denied the request even hear the case in the first place. But you are absolutely right and that the real goal here, and its strange because none of the lawyers will put on the papers and the judges dont really talk about it, but the unspoken mission here is delay and avoidance of delay. And i will say this, stuff, in 2023, i was saying some of these trials will not start until 2025. And, john, everybody laughed at me. And now here we are. Here we are all these former federal prosecutors who are much smarter than me, there were on here saying, no way. And they are right in a sense. In federal court, federal court moves very quickly. In a ordinary case, you could expect to go on trial very quickly. Bush v. Gore is a great example of the Supreme Court moving quickly when it wants to, john. Youre exactly right. But with these cases, knowing that there would be such monumental legal issues, president ial immunity is, just one of many that this case would take a long time. All four criminal cases would take a long time. And i couldnt point to any specific thing is to say that things happen. Or in latin, Thingus Happenus its a legal principle. Things have happened and here we are. This happened, delay is happening. We should be that surprised. And i stand by what is it in 2023, some of these trends arent Going Forward until 2025. Save the tape, but dont save the tape. Just remember i said tonight and thats it. Dan, a lot of democrats are furious, theyre now panicked about it. But do you really think is voters out there that are actually saying, i think hes guilty. I think hes corrupt, i think maybe he was involved in Election Interference. However, i need a Court Decision to help me to decide how i am going to vote. I am not familiar with any of those voters. How about you . Im not either. And i think don trump has kind of embrace this. When you think of his tactics over the last, call it years since the cases have been bubbling up. Hes happy to sit in a courtroom, hes happy to walk outside the courtroom until the narrative that he wants. All our cameras are there. We dont get to his rallies, we go to court. Listen, aside from this fact, e. Jean carroll that money, i think that really freaked him out. Hes gotta put a bond up or whatever, however that victim out. That pitch to the core of who he is and we will see how that plays out over the time. But these are the ones, obviously the one in d. C. , thats the one that sends him to jail. The other stuff is kind of like, whats going on in florida is a bit of a sideshow, whats going on in new york is a bit of a sideshow. And a lot of folks said, lets focus on the really important one to johns point, the one that really is actually 200 of years of History In The Making and might be in the next hundred years how we operate in our democracy. Again, i will side with you, sadly, 2025. Hold on dont they want us to believe that the hush money case is a sideshow . It sounds like it, right . Youre paying off a porn star. But the reason Stormy Daniels was paid off to withhold information, not from Donald Trumps wife but from the american voter. Someones already going to prison for it. Its not a sideshow, donald trump is an unindicted coconspirator, and a lot of guys outrage now had no outrage when Michael Cohen did the time for the exact same crime. And i think the important part here is that we have to make sure hes being held accountable. For everything that hes done. I agree that the majority of voters are probably not weeding through all the legalese that is now going to be extended for another several weeks and months. There will be more motivated about the ivf decision in alabama than they will be likely but this. However, holding him accountable so that future president s can do exactly what hes doing is incredibly important. And also at this point, it strikes me as ironic and problematic that the folks who were out there on january 6th, many of them had been indicted and sent to prison. Yet, donald trump is still out. The ringleaders have not been tried and convicted but all of this socalled footsoldiers have been. I have no sympathy for them. But it really does go to show you the difference in how he acts in the privilege that he has versus all the folks that he sends out to do his dirty work. That has made especially true when he was in front of a crowd and talks about how African Americans should completely understand the position that he isnt because hes being persecuted in a way that [inaudible] is being persecuted. If nothing else shows you how different that circumstances, its today. Because he, because of everything you said about who was appointed the Supreme Court justices, he knows exactly what hes doing, he knows exactly how to play the system. And hes doing it in front of our face. So whoever youll never say that to the black voters. Its passed the black voters. The objectification of us. So if theres no other example of just how rigged this system is how rigged the system is, and how much he is rigging it, is what we are seeing unfold right now. Do you think you will be held accountable in georgia . I do remember the last time we were talking about Election Interference on his part or the 20 odd other codefendants for weeks now. It is all about when fani willis and a fellow prosecutor potentially started dating. The final day of the hearing was today. We havent talked about trump in weeks. A month ago if you asked me what the georgia case meant to trump, id say a real threat. I always thought the federal cases are real legal threat because 90 of federal cases and up in a guilty threat. But now, im not so sure. I think the law on the hole is on the side of georgia prosecutors. I think they end up avoiding being disqualified. But that doesnt mean that the case hasnt been fatally injured. There are many ill give you several reasons. How does it affect the r. I. C. O. Charges . How does it affect the recultureds . Let me say this, it doesnt affect the substantive charges one iota. If youre talking about does it affect whether or not the defendants are guilty or not guilty, it doesnt. It never has. But practically speaking, this case, this motion, could be the end of the georgia prosecution. Let me game it out for you. For example oh my fani willis and nathan wade are disqualified. Fani willis. She is the arctic type of this case. Whos gonna take it up . Then theyre gonna have to find prosecutors interested in taking this long and a judge chooses. Is it going to be the Republican Attorney general in georgia . I think not. Now you have a political reason why this case dies a slow death. Or, for example, maybe it just hangs in limbo while they find someone to take on the case. Youre telling me the kraken lady the effect from nothing, is that what youre saying . Exactly right. Some of the defendants are wondering why did we flip so early. Some defendants have pleaded guilty in the georgia case. Let me tell, you the laws on the prosecutors side. The facts are on the defensive side. Because the facts are salacious. But, heres the theory. And it either flies or doesnt. The theory is that the prosecutors were corrupt. Because she, fani willis, had a relationship that predated the appointment of nathan wade. She pointed nathan wade because he was her boyfriend, and therefore, the money that went to nathan wade, which came back to her in the form of vacations, constitutes not necessarily an actual conflict, but the appearance of impropriety. And that was a major argument today. The Legal Standard to be applied. They dont even know because this is never come up in this context. So they dont know what Legal Standard will actually apply. Its all up to judge mcafee and ultimately, youre right. Does it affect the substantive guilt or not guilty of the defendants . No. But, is it a real problem to this prosecution . Yes. This is why i do worry about what the voters are thinking and how they are interpreting all of this, right . Because its incumbent upon us, in the party, to actually get them to follow this in a way that we are all doing to understand what donald trump is doing, that his goal really was to embarrass them, right . To take them in some way, shape, or form. Theyre waiting for an outcome. Theyre waiting for an outcome. But in the meantime, sheamus, ruby freeman. Have stood in front of the dragon. And stood up for democracy. Ruby freeman saying she cant even use her name anymore. You know . Those are two patriots and john, the other thing is, what youre one of those two other prosecutors, you are simply feeling like, come on, we needed to be flawless. We are going up against a six headed monster in donald trump. That he is using every dirty trick in the book. And im not saying both sides need to be equal, but in order to take this beast down, you need to be flawless. And the fact that there was this issue, even if its salacious, even if its a sideshow, there is a very good chance they are feeling like, are you kidding me . This is im not saying its a federal crime, but they could feel like this is an unforced error of the most consequential, one of the most consequential at least for these prosecutors that they were going to work on. Of course, and i dont see how fani williss relationship erases a tape of cheating and committing fraud in the election. Of course, she is a woman. And that terrifies him. Two things donald trump is afraid of, a strong woman and a strong wind. I dont actually see how this is necessarily in the gate in after the disastrous testimony of some of the witnesses earlier in the week. Its not only about taking him down, its about serving the law and punishing those who are guilty. Theyre still gonna be a lot of time left in this case. 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Its kind of the whole thing hes done going back to 2015. Really trying to Scare Americans about immigration. I think the democrats have focused on the policy. They had this bipartisan plan. Yes, its about security, but its also about fixing the Immigration System. I dont think any maga politician is trying to focus on fixing the Immigration System that we need. If you look around the world, and you look at the demographic problems that china, that germany, that japan are facing, we are doing a little bit better but not that much better. So a fix for the Immigration System makes a lot of sense. Jumping into the Politics Game right now . Thats pretty important here. If you just look at New York State, if you look at the special election that we just had here for that house seat, it was important. The messaging was important. So i think maybe the biden administration, the biden campaign, is moving to a place where they can actually kind of rebalance the scales a little bit with trumps scare tactics. Listen, joe biden has issued more Executive Orders on immigration than donald trump has because there is an intention around fixing it. When i think republicans have done is, you cant use reproductive rights, you can take a victory lap on that. So lets bring in immigration. And it was used very heavily in york. I dont think it worked there, quantity ended up winning. But theyll end up coming back to it. As the child of immigrants, this angers me to know and. I remember, i dont remember, i wasnt born, but i was told countless times how my family was supported and how by catholic chaired these back. Then to me, if there is intentionality to help and support immigrants, we would do it. The nonprofits but come together in conjunction with government to actually make it happen. But now, ive got to see migrant families living in Furniture Stores in new york. That is heartbreaking, right . So, yes, i think ultimately something should be done. I do think in many ways democrats and republicans have failed immigrants in this country. But if i were to actually gain this out, i would say ultimately joe biden will be able to bring the narrative back for democrats. Its going to be difficult and will take some actual intention on the part of my party to do so. But right now, this is a frustrating, frustrating issue that, you, know is not going to go away anytime soon. Heres the problem with the narrative, not enough people see the truth. We talk about it here. Truth matters but only if you hear it. I want to share just a little bit of what we heard this week. Watch this. Migrant crime is starting to spiral out of control there is a Migrant Crime spree killing americans the Migrant Crime wave the migrant cry the imMigrant Crime crisis. Every day, there is a story about some sort of Migrant Crime lets fact check. Crime and Migrant Crime is not rising, its down. Its down in the big cities that received the most migrants. Crime is down. If that was not enough, while donald trump is at the border, remember, you had mike johnson saying joe biden was there for a photo op, when it was trump, who sat down for primetime interview. I want to share this little kicker that he threw. And i also think that the radicals, they will kill the babies in eight months, nine months under roe v. Wade. They have the right to kill the baby after birth. Literally after birth in some cases. Hes been saying that line for years and never challenges them on it. We have to remember, of all the people running for president , donald trump is the only one who has hired undocumented immigrants to avoid paying a living wage to American Workers into different centuries. Polish Illegal Immigrants from trump tower. Because im a smart businessman because hes a smart businessman. But lets go back to the fact that if you believe this bible, the only the new testament is the commitment to welcome the stranger. Greg abbott heard that and thought, razor wire in the rio grande. At the end of the day, the biggest scandal of all of this, the greatest hypocrisy of all this is, ive never heard fox news call a wide law breaker and illegal in my life. But there is no wall they can build that is high enough to hide the gigantic help wanted sign at our southern border. If the republican purdue wanted border crossings to, and it could happen in a month. You start locking up those white employers who dangle those jobs, theyll stop crossing the border, supply and demand. They can do it if they wanted. They dont. Greg abbott will weighed the Meat Processing plants that arrest all the illegals, not the guys counting money at the back. They know that if you actually ended on immigration, a solid would cost 400. Dominant doesnt eat a lot of solid so maybe he does not think about it too much me to anyone talking about illegals but doesnt want to talk about people doing the hiring is lying to you. Absolutely right. Back in the 80s, even ronna reagan was talking about amnesty. And im not siding with reagan or the republicans on this issue, but my point is, same what i had before. If theres an interest in cooperating individuals into this country, and at that time, a lot of central and south americans, because there was this design to say, yes, we will provide some kind of amnesty, we will create sanctuary cities. We will get the christian evangelical community, well get the government to be supportive, and the goal is, hey, by the way, heres a Republican Party whos done this for you. Come on over. And im not saying that it should be democratic or republican, but what i am saying is one of parties interested in actually bringing folks into democrats did it too way back with residents in the early 1900s. Its done and its doable. But the point is that this juncture, when you conflate ethnic nationalism and economic nationalism, layer Christian Nationalism on top of that, there is this, after a certain shade, we dont want you. And thats where we are. Reagan said open borders. He said go back then go back home when youre done here. Danny, mastication, militarizing the border, the draconian things trump talks of, are they even legal . Thats a really good question. We saw early on donald trump tried several Executive Orders by fiat which were overturned relatively quickly. So Donald Trumps view of what he can do in terms of immigration is often not consistent with the law. For example, we have asylum laws that cant just be ignored or overturned by Executive Order. Those laws, those federal laws require us to accept under certain conditions people applying for asylum. Theres certain things that donald trump simply cannot do by Executive Order or by a wave of his hand. And weve known that since at least 2016, 2017 when he tried at the very beginning of his first presidency, maybe only presidency. But hes tried it before and hes wrong. But at this point, does anyone think hes right about the law . We just saw a clip of him saying theyre trying to abort babies after theyre born. I mean, that isnt even metaphysically possible. Its insane. Donald trump loves to say that the Republican Party is unified. But look at these primaries . Pick a week, nikki haley is getting 20, 40 of primary voters in congress, republicans cant even get their faction of congress in order. Do people see this . Were heading into super tuesday. What do you want to see . Because what donald trump is telling people at the podium is not what bearing out in reality. And i guess the margin of victory, as we get through these states on super tuesday, were gonna be able to pick some stuff out. Thats what weve seen in these primaries that hes been winning substantially, but maybe not by as much as some folks. Nick i think it gets to the other way. When we get towards late spring and, lets say none of these cases, happen this is just politics, we know who the two players are, that sort of thing. Whos gonna be endorsing them . Is Mitch Mcconnell going to endorse is nikki haley going to endorse . I think its almost more important when you think about how that party is going to vote. And then going back to the very first top pick that we talked, about its really going to fall into independents and they probably dont need a guilty verdict to know that hes a scoundrel. We all know hes a scoundrel. Its just the ones who got the judges, who got the roe v. Wade, who got all this stuff overturned, they are in it for the long haul no matter what he does. And thats why i think the math gets kind of hard for him, especially if biden is going to take the fight now. Like going to the border and doing some of these things that i think has not had to do just yet. If joe biden, though, couldnt have cracked 60 in south carolina, the media wouldve never shut up about it. Donald trump couldnt do it. And it was a decisive win over nikki haley. Her point, lets talk about no labels. They had their big meeting coming up this week. They have gotten Ballot Access for themselves. Basil, the issue is, who would their candidate be . Its not going to be larry hogan, its not going to be joe manchin. Nikki haley said today it is not her. Whats their game plan here . I have no idea. But did it scares the hell out of me. Because, look. I deal with students every day, and i have a lot of students that say theyre not voting in this election. That really, really troubles me. And when i start to hear that more and more, and i start thinking about what no labels is doing or trying to do, im very nervous about the future. But well get those young people to vote . There is a range of issues that theyre concerned about but they just dont like any of the candidates. And the reality is we Student Loan Debt a lot of students are concerned about genocide and they that is something that i want to add. The air drops into gaza, those are things that i think could change the narrative a little bit about. And i have young people in my household, we all do i think, these are things that they have a different relationship with the history of that of our relationship with israel over the last 50 years or so. And theyre thinking about it differently. I think a lot of them would opt for a protest vote or dont vote at all. And the thing is, as this country becomes more and more diverse, youre gonna have more and more people that particularly with social media, that check on whats happening at home. They check on whats going on in their homeland. Weve done historically vote on foreign affairs. Youre going to see a lot more voters wanting to gauge that more and be more concerned about whats happening, what the president is doing in whatever country theyre coming from because theyre much more connected to them. We only used to talk about that in terms of Cuban Americans in this country. But now, many more populations i think, thats gonna be a factor. I think thats why the Arab American vote in michigan was so inspiring. Khalid tapper nick, when he gave his protest, he couldve given the finger. He couldve done something negative. But he genuflect it indifference. And those folks couldve stayed home, they couldve voted for republicans, they couldve voted for dean. Instead, they voted for and committed to, say President Biden, we want to support you, youve got to show us that you are willing to use a word like war crimes or word like cease fire. Thats whats really important about their message. Theyre saying, look, look at all these young people voting against joe biden. They actually use this moment to get his attention and say, our votes count, dont take us for granted. If you want to see november. I mean it was brilliant. And it was a great use of democracy. It was really inspiring. I can guarantee you the white house heard. Its not a coincidence were hearing about the airdrops of Aid Into Gaza now. But its got to be a lot more land that. I want to hear the word war crime. I want to hear the word sees crime. I know hes working at the scenes. But after what we saw this week, its not making the people of israel safer. Its not making joe bidens job safer, whats going on. There its scaring young people. We have to acknowledge that. Rfk, is he a candidate who is really going to pull from joe biden because when one thing that his delving into conspiracy theories, that takes you right to maga town. Yeah, it does. But heres a thing, if youre megaton, youre never leaving the town limits. Thats the only you like what i did there, john . Ive got some ive got a couple of tops here. Anyway, if youre in maga town, youre not leaving. But if youre a democrat, think about what basil just said, which by the way was terrifying, that his students are thinking about not voting. Basil doesnt teach at Eastham Sandwich university. He teaches some of the smartest people in our country. They have good food and Eastham Sandwich. This is a really good point. Were not talking about bump pins here. You have highly educated students saying, id rather not vote. Do they know what the consequences are . They do, but listen, in my, youth when i was there, age it was apartheid. Right . And i wanted every institution, every college, every university, every elected official to come out against apartheid in south africa. So i know that energy. I absolutely understand that energy. And i cant say in the classroom, you have to vote for joe biden the White Nationalist sent a christian nationalists, the all the guards and fascists . What i, say and this is actually going to the point of no labels as well, elections have consequences. And we talk about what those consequences are. And if you dont like the specific individuals, lets just talk about agendas. I want to vote for someone who will increase and expand my right to vote, not shrink it. I want someone that cares about reproductive rights and black female health, maternal health. I want somebody who actually cares about that. I want somebody who actually cares about the pipeline of people that look like me being able to go to college. So i vote for that agenda, even if you dont like the individual. So i think they understand it from that point of view. And maybe were getting closer to a problem in redirection and a direct vote for the president of the united states. But they are actively wrestling with this. And we have to go meet them where they are. The good thing is that theyre engaged, were gonna take a quick break. One comeback, unexpected week that started a bigger conversation about what we learned on what success means. When the 11th hour and the nightcap continues. Hour and the nightcap continues. You. Can make it happen. Try Dietary Supplements from voltaren for healthy joints. Nothing makes a gathering great like egglands best eggs. Theyre just so delicious. With better nutrition, too. For us, its eggs any style. As long as theyre the best. Egglands best. [coughing] copd isnt pretty. Im out of breath, and often out of the picture. But this is my story. and with oncedaily trelegy, it can still be beautiful. 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And the only reason why a road it was because i knew my son was sitting in a classroom somewhere looking out the window wishing he wasnt in school. That post ended up with a lot more conversations, and i talked about it on the today show this week. And what ended up being extraordinary is this conversation made us realize that it connects to so many more people. And what i want to talk about here is education. Because all of us grew up in school, for linear thinkers, where everything is, you must think a certain way, you must operate a certain way, you have to get Straight Days to get into the best colleges, to get into the best universities. Are things changing now, that were starting to say, you know what, maybe you cant get in the front door, but if you realize that you can get through the side door, youll still get into the party. Theres still a place for success. And i want to turn to you, basil. You have a degree education, you teach education and policy. Do you think things have changed and now were starting to see people, students as hold people . Because i can say, for me, i just counted the days, the minutes, the hours until i graduated school because i desperately hated everything. And people who felt like gym class and lunch for their favorite subjects were doomed to a life of loser dame. I understand, and to your very specific issue about dyslexia, to be heartened that the schools the new York City Schools transfer have specifically implemented a program to work with children who are dyslexic in the new York City Public School system. So he heard he heard the call. Look, some, where i graduated high school in 1989. At that point of a High School Diploma was enough. We quickly moved into a Knowledge Based economy, a skills based economy, where there was this push and people were being pushed to go to university. And we saw Vocational Learning dropping off a cliff. So when very specific skills, dropped off. So what did we do . We produced a generation or to have students who are, yes, have a lot of degrees but have a tremendous amount of student debt. And in many cases werent able to find jobs to be able to pay off that debt. So now were going back to, lets think about vocational education. Maybe college is not the way to go. Can we train and create a code or who does not have to get a bachelors or masters degree . Were thinking about all those things. In addition to things like social and emotional learning. I have students that are doing research on trauma informed education where the teachers are able to spot trauma in children a lot earlier than they had been before. Thats especially important at the time of covid and post covid. So i do think the pillars are in place. I do think the strategies are in place. We may have a little wobble before we can actually implemented across the board and across race and class. But its there, and there is the conversation. Dan, do you ever think about wall street, when you got into the business, banks recruited from four universities, thats it. If you didnt go to one of those four schools, you dont have a chance to get in. Things have changed a lot in large part because of dei. And now, more students from different backgrounds, different schools, are being welcomed and educated into different industries. Do you see that as a Huge Positive in terms of change and who gets to be successful today . I do see that, but i have to correct. Do they also recruited lacrosse players. I know i was one of. Them you are one of them. To listen, not to make light of that, i think the demographics of wall street have changed. I think the job has changed for the most part to, for the better, you know what i mean . Its less club and that sort of thing. One thing i would just say, to anybody who things have an interest in doing some job while theyre in school, it could be a high school, they could be college, it could be a two year i would say education is not just learning in the classroom. And i think thats what was really beautiful about your post. Youre talking about how difficult it is for people who have these sorts of issues. But those same people can go out there and get some work experience. And learn, and get education about different careers and what it takes to do that job. And i think all of, us mentor lots of young people. And when i say to them, your grades are important and getting to the right schools is important, but also demonstrating your interest in doing something and then going above and beyond, when you think about the tools you said in 1989, when you graduated, i graduated around the same time, to find out, you had to find somebody, physically, who did a job and get their attention and have them to want to speak to you about that. Now, you can become an expert on anything. Pullup perplexity a. I. Or chatgpt, or Something Like that. You have all of these tools outside of just cool right now. I think thats whats most powerful about it. You have to stay in the game. If you do if you hate school, if you gain no confidence or selfworth from it and you say, this isnt for me, then youll never get to that path. Do you think one of the reasons theres so much pushback right now against diversity and inclusion is because there are lots of people that come from those old school four pillars and the four universities who wants us to just stick with that . They dont want all of these other entrants and cerebral thinkers. I think one of the reasons why there is a push back against deis because the Republican Media Complex discovered a new bogeyman, and its dei, even for people who cant spell dei. I dont think its based on any adherence to the old way of doing things. When my child was born, and ill never forget, we said to the doctor dont care if its a boy or girl, will he be able to write code . And the rules are changing from one we were younger. If i can go a little off weight, Richard Louis died this week. As a comedian example, i loved him, so good to me. And he was someone who actually took his neuroses, took everything that made him a freak, everything that was wrong with him, and turned it into gold. On a creative level, he made audiences feel less alone, and thats part of his genius. He didnt play the cool guy. He did what youre not supposed to do in the field, especially in the 70s and 80s, and took every neurotic bit of him and mind that to create a brand and product. And were in an age of doing it yourself and changing all the rules. Whatever made you a freak as a child will make you unique as an adult, and we are witnessing that in realtime and some very inspiring ways. Not Everybody Needs to go to college, that was the case for a long time. Some of my friends from high school went to college, they shouldve been hanging drive wall they mightve been killing it now had they done it had they gone the vocational avenue or some different avenue like that, they would probably be killing it. Some of them are. Some of them got into construction, and theyre killing it. Theyre blowing it up. But i say that and i have to admit, im a hypocrite. I may say that but when it comes to my own daughters, i want them to go to college. And when the time comes, i will hand basil and an followup with a lot of cash to bribe him into getting them into college youre lying, you would not do that i just wanna talk about. It but people go to jail for that the point is it does happen. To some degree, i am being a hypocrite. But i also believe now that the traditional notions about Higher Education, going away to a college where they read these dusty books, arguably, all that colleges right here in the phone. We have access to it. Who here in the last year hasnt gotten on at night and learn how to do something on you to . And learned it may be better than you could from a book . Learning is changing. And look, every model, every old model of learning is going to have to change with it. Its gonna be close slow to catch up. And Higher Education has to change. Its a model that may not last into the future. Were all ready learning from home, i teach online classes at a university, i never leave the comfort of my home or my office. All right, when we come back, it is time for the mvps. They might be good, they might be bad, who had a very, very good week . , who had a very, vey good week . Liberty bushumal. Libtreally blubatoo. Mark that one. That was nice i think youre supposed to stand over there. Oh am i . Thank you. So, a couple more . Well just. Well rip. Well go quick. Libu smeebo. Libu bribu. Limu bibu. And me. Doug hes an emu only pay for what you need. Jingle liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Awkward question. Is there going to be anything. Left over . Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Inner Monologue my kids dont know what they want. You know who knows what she wants . Me with empower, we get all of our financial questions answered. So you dont have to worry. Empower. 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Egglands best. man excuse me, would you mind taking a picture of us . tony oh, no problem. man thanks. E the best. tony yes, problem. You need verizon. Get the new iphone 15 pro with tons of storage. So you can take all the pics vo tradein any iphone in any condition and get a new iphone 15 pro and an ipad and apple watch se all on us. Only on verizon. Our nightcap is here, and wrapping up our night with the mvps of the week. John, yours . Im gonna get in trouble for this one. Lets be clear, you always get in trouble for your mvp every time youre here. Willie nilsson wrote to me, two times ago. Because i talk farm, days i did while. Theyre nice my mvp is a group of guys who dont get enough credit for everything theyve done to contribute to our current Political Landscape and that is the guys who are liberals who are too pure to vote for Hillary Clinton in swing states in 2016. Gentlemen, i know how it is, i the third parties, our greatest president was third i voted third party as well. But only unsafe blue states because i have this thing where i care about democracy. And so, all these guys were two pure to compromise their values and vote for a corporatist, new liberal like Hillary Clinton, and i get all the critiques, gentlemen we have them to thank for the Supreme Court mess this week, for having a racist reality show cloud lie told our families during the played. And lets also point out these guys dont generally have uteruses. So we can thank them for women having fewer rights now than their mothers and grandmothers did. 14 states that have banned abortion since dobbs. Half 1 million women have been raped and of the 67,000 rape victims have been impregnated. And donald trump and republicans are forcing american citizens to be pregnant against their will by rapists. This didnt happen have to happen. So i know you all dont want to sell out and vote for a democrat again, i get it. Im independent. But your gift to us, of being too pure, is why its like an spd you gave the world and it gets worse every year and you gave it all of us. Guys, please, compromise a little bit. Every choice in adulthood is making the less choosing your desert is the lesser of two evils, gentlemen. Keep it on my end on election day. From stds to dan nathan, whos your pick . Im actually gonna follow you a little bit. Here the Permission Structure for that is deede was really formed by Mitch Mcconnell. Wow Mitch Mcconnell stepping down as the leader of the senate of the Republican Party, dont let the door hit you on the way out when you just think about, in my lifetime, in my adult lifetime, was there somebody who was more destructive i think to the way of life here in america, for all the reasons that you just made . Because if it wasnt for Mitch Mcconnell, if it wasnt for his cynicism, if it wasnt for the focus on the courts, and on the majority, and the things that he would do in such a hypocritical manner to set the stage for donald trump, then, when he had the death shot, after january 6th, with the impeachment, he couldve taken him out and it couldve been done. And that std some of them stick around like luggage, isnt that what used to say . This one couldve been gone. We would have to deal with him anymore. Mitch mcconnell, good riddance. Danny . The mvp is, of course, the human embryo. Literally. In an alabama Supreme Court you mean the person . In so many words, it is a valuable person. Literally. A person that exists outside the womb. And now that through Ivf Facilities into a state of utter chaos. That case is fascinating because the facts are, apparently some patients at a hospital goes into a refrigerator where the embryos are stored, just take them out, how they nothing out about that. How did that refrigerator, how is that available to patients . It doesnt matter. Drops the embryos on the floor and the parents bring a wrongful death lawsuit against the hospital. Now, the net effect of the alabama Supreme Court deciding that these embryos were persons and you can sue for wrongful death is that Ivf Facilities started freaking out that, oh my goodness, now if people slip on a banana peel in the hallway and drop an embryo, we are gonna be liable. I mean really raises the question, what if we what if the power goes out . And the embryos were gonna be mass murderers. What happens next . There is legislation that will probably pass. But it doesnt overturn the alabama Supreme Courts decision. It only provides narrow immunity for these Ivf Facilities. Its one bipartisan issue that both sides are together on. But that is really only a band aid. It doesnt address the fundamental issue of embryo personhood outside the womb. Basil, sadly these mpps were so good you have 15 seconds for yours. Thats fine because i will lighten the mood a little bit. My mvp is a friend and former neighbor, robert bobby garland, who is the new Artistic Director of the Dance Theater of harlem. And their season starts in april. Hes a good brother, a good friend whos labored long, long to try to get to this point in his life and his career. And the Dance Theater in harlem, if youve never seen it, do yourself a favor. Go check it out. Its a jewel, and he deserves all his accolades. And so are you. Thank you all for being here. What a beautiful night. And thank you at home for watching because this weekend marks this teams two Year Anniversary as being part of the 11th hour. Its an honor and privilege to anchor this show every night. 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