so in demand that you've got install something in the home that echoes back to like the mo, time studio. so the need goods and that because you're killing it on camera. yes. so congrats on the cool looking home studio brother. thank you. i can't unlike you, i can find somebody to, to, to pay rent for me somewhere else. so i just put it right here in my house. there you go. rather, that's that they used to call that the, the, the ramp azriel i'm at home now it's called the right off room because you get to, you get to measure that room and send it into your account, listed on your property taxes. hey, listen, welcome to the under mifflin, i can't wait to read it. the only thing that holds me right now, these oral histories are so great, the bowie one was unbelievable. and then there's a good one right now called take the gun, leave the canolli about the godfather or history. and then there's a one that i'm currently reading about the sopranos. as soon as i finish that, i'm jumping in. i welcome to de, under mifflin, but this seems to be sort of a dim song approach to writing depictions of a show that people like tidbits that they can read one of the time from different perspectives. it's a pretty cool approach, isn't it? right? yeah, i mean look, yes and also for me dennis, i have to tell you like the reason this happened was because the office has just gone nuts. right? i mean, you know, the office was the number one scripted show on nbc for a large portion when it was on. but we weren't like, i say to people, we weren't like friends like we, we weren't, you know, in time square on billboards or on the cover of vogue every other week or whatever . but like, what's happened over the last couple of years with the show 1st it was anecdotal people, you know, talking sort of this research and walking through an airport or are going to dinner . and then when the numbers started coming out, that nielsen released about streaming 57100000000 minutes dreamed in 2020, like that number is a way bigger than i can even imagine. and so really this, this oral history truly was about me trying to discover why, like, what, what, what, how did we go from there to now, not filming anything in 8 years, and it being the most watch show and television. so for me, it truly what i'm not a reporter, but i was like, i wanted to try to uncover at least try to uncover some of the answers as to why people have, have gone so crazy for the show. the last few years. i would say highly binged bull, probably the most benjamin shell because it runs, it doesn't run hot non stop. i tried to watch 2 episodes of the vikings one night back to back and i spawn tediously human combust that i can only watch so many people. this symbolic, my lad, the impaler and everything harkins, everybody's whipping bows out. beholden. archer. i couldn't was, i could watch or 8 of these in a row and just sorta get into it. and like, think of it as a day at the office when i used to have office jobs it's, it's well written, it's smart. people kill me, i laugh. lot. but it does run so hot, but it hurts my brain after 2 hours. yeah. you know, it's, it's weird something that greg daniels talked about who, who created to show that, that it was, it was not on purpose, right? because streaming, when we started, didn't exist. but there are there, there are a lot of story lines throughout the show to your point that are told in like 4 to 6 episode chunks. right, like interest alba comes on as the boss for like $4.00 to $6.00 episodes. and you know, you know, john present sky or, you know, jim halbert leaves the office for like 4 to 6 episodes and so it can be are what people have talked about is like i can put it on. i can watch this little story and then you know, the next day, watch the next one or whatever, but it wasn't, wasn't on purpose at all. so no laugh track, no audience track. i mean, you know, that being you begin to feel like a manipulative when that happens, i can just watch this and go, that's great. that's right. and i, i don't have to be coaxed into it by be up skinner or something. i don't, i'm trying to think when you, who i'm intrigued because i have a guest who would be reticent and be loquacious about this and who would be garrulous. but tell me who jumped on board, had great stories and love the rec, can't. you know here a true like i know this sounds like like a p r b s answer, but i think because 8 years had passed right. 78 years since we filmed anything. and because of this research and that i was talking about before, i was shocked at how incredibly generous people were with their time. i mean, steve caroll for example, was working on space force at the time. and i was like trying to schedule him and he was very busy as a very busy man. he sat down with me for 3 and a half hours. yeah. and we talked and then left and i was like, oh i'll walk you to your car. we go to his car and we talk for another 30 minutes and i'm like, damn it. i wish i had my camera in my notes or whatever, but like people are, i think like me, genuinely curious about about what happened and going back kind of to the beginning and looking at decisions that were made that, you know, had that have made it where we are today, you know, i don't know corral, i've never met him. i'm a huge fan. but dana carvey worked with him way back when he, when he was in his embryonic state. and dana told me that he had so eager to please and such a pleasant cat with such great manners. he just speaks so highly of what a great guy to hell, michelle. and it's funny when i watch girl, you forget all hands to me is and i always think of curls. part on the show is like very debonair going listeners complete clued clueless, but not in a goofy looking guy. sort of like a guy who would carry some says cache in an office. yeah. you know, jenna fisher actually, she had a really funny bet, which was that there is, there is an unspoken competition happening in hollywood who is the nicest guy. will ferrell or steve corral like they are both just so incredibly generous and really quite frankly, softspoken you know, the sort of the, the antithesis of, you know, say robin williams or whatever, who was sort of on all the time. always really funny. very soft spoken goes about his business, but when he's on, he's just it doesn't get any funnier. i think carouse moved under the poll position there since all i just read that will goes to that m a k. in the course of what conversation he just says, have a good life because mccayden call him to audition for a board and something. and i will, you don't get that i without having to steal the side. and he just wills in the course of one phone conversation, we're talking to our friend brian baumgartner in the book is out. it's called and can you imagine if you who doesn't have an office fan and their family were in the sweet spot here 2 weeks out. welcome to the under mifflin, the ultimate oral history of the off is, get it for the holidays. what is silverman play and i brothers, he just coming in were sharp elbow to me. i met silverman over the years. i dig him, but he is the master of carving out turf. did he play any part? is it in like a tour here? did he just put his exec prod, brand on it? no, no, been, and i really served as partners. i mean, he, he's really the one who approached me about going through this. deciding how we wanted to tell the story. he felt like it was time and, and that's why, for me, i was, this is such a cliche. but at the time when we started working on this, i had become a van of true crime podcasts. right. and so what i said to him was okay, luck like we can go back or we can tell stories and there will be that like, will, will tell behind the scenes things that happened. but i was like, let's approach this book. let's approach this story like a true crime podcast, right? but it's not like who killed who, or where did is this missing person? it's really going in and trying to figure out what happened in terms of who was hired in terms of things you talked about before. no laugh track the moving camera . yes. you know what happened that has given it this long jeopardy and no silverman, very enter goal to, you know, i sat down and did the interviews specifically, but in terms of during the journey and for writing the book, he and i were total partners. why knew daniel's when he was almost embryonic and comedy? he was sancho panza. a conan over it. now, it was a corner. you wouldn't say much because he's a well man. he was a sweet man. i always thought. and but what he would talk occasionally said something under his breath. it burges over the years building 1st got there. i got christ. that's for who is the guy he drove the master of draw a car. but tell me but tell me about greg. he's a good guy, right. greg is, i mean, he's the best he truly is a genius and you know, he approach one of the things we talk a lot about in the book as you know, the 1st episode of the american office right was, was essentially the exact same as the british which people kind of filleted us for . but what he said was, look, i want to build a world, i want to create an environment and began creating characters. but specifically like really hot, you know, everybody who shoots a pilot and all feel shiny and new. and he's like, no, no, no, that guy, kevin malone has been sitting in the corner for 12 years. so we need to, we need to make it feel like he's been sitting in the corner for 12 years. and greg just had this sense. and just like he was dogmatic in his approach to, he would walk around like muttering like truth and beauty, truth and beauty, truth and beauty and would be like what he's why, what are you talking about? and he's like, everything has to be true. i like be funny, but everything has to be true. and through that we're going to find little moments of, of beauty, either comedy, beauty, or, or realism, beauty. yeah. monday, inverse similitude is an absolutely beautiful place for me to hang my hat, comedy wise. i wish i could watch it all day. the su new and gary shows, larry said there was the fireworks on the day. the day when they would nail the i the $9.00 to $5.00 of it and i what everybody sitting on their rage, their joy, those little corners all match together. vague for a beautiful, a crossword for ira. think saw a puzzle and the show the show was that i, i, well, i mean, i mean biggest fan. so there you go. right? got bombgardener is with us. i'm going to talk to him after the break about where he gets his upbringing and what leads him, tell a what leads him to the show. and also, my man is the he is the, the main guy over on cameo. you know that thing where people right in and there's a way to do it where you look pissy and i think they'll be off your sent in a day. and as a way to do it where you have fun with it and look like you want to do the best for the people. and it's like an over driver getting all 5 stars eventually they're looking for you. and bry stands a top we cameo world like a latter day colossus of rhodes. we'll pick apart that on the other side of the rake, brian bombgardener and dennis miller plus one ah o is your media reflection of reality? in the world transformed what will make you feel safe isolation community? are you going the right way or are you being that somewhere which direct? what is true? what is faith? in the world corrupted, you need to descend a join us in the depths or remain in the shallows. ah, working room or should in the back she popped in. she said, well, i'm getting ready to go shopping for christmas. can we? we snuck up. there was a good bye to another, shooting another safe part of american life. shattered by violence. the gunman was armed with an a ar 15, semi automatic rifle. when the issue comes home, it's time to act. when we're filing on this issue, the other side wins. by default, the lady that lived over there. i was walking one of the dogs, which is why do you wear again when you skin nothing. they take it off it. i think the people need to take responsibility in their own and be prepared if those kinds of weapons who are less available. we wouldn't have a lot of the shootings and we certainly wouldn't have the number address with hey folks. welcome back to dennis miller plus one. we're joined by brian bombgardener. you know, of course, is kept malone on the genius and b. c comedy series for the ages. now the office has a new book out called welcome to dunder, mifflin, the ultimate oral history of the office, reuniting the cast of the iconic show sharing behind the scenes stories currently available in bookstores and online. grab one for the holiday as well. the grabbing is good, where we are born covers, what the, what, and what got in your blood early to begin showbiz, atlanta, georgia. i came, i came from the deep south. i was an early for me. i was a sports guy early on and some, some things lead me to start doing theater to start participating and thinking it was just a hobby and went to northwestern university, northwestern university. had a program between junior and senior year of high school or where sort of like intensive and i was like 6 weeks. i was like, i can go away and stand a college dorm before i've graduated from high school. i am, i am in and really it was about fun and activity for me and, and i fell in love with it there and was like, oh there's, there's something deeper here. i mean, for me it was about being an actor. like it was about creating characters that was just what excited me. and so ended up going to assume you there in dallas for college and study theater and acting and, and did theater for a number of years all around the country. and eventually found my way to los angeles. i can't imagine how much fun it must be because northwestern. perfectly positive for your parents, stephen. say, yeah, go away. you're right up the road from chicago, one of the great old time towns, the only time that could rival the great varsity in atlanta for hot dog sales area could be there safe and it must have been so exhilarating to to be sure, were you able to go over and see any step and watch stuff on weekends or anything like that. yeah, i did. yes. and, and went to being a sports fan, went to old kamisky park. that was that color green. i never said it said maybe the dallas stars are close to green and white. they had the great brats. i love kamisky . yeah, it was. it was, it was awesome. and and yeah, i went to been wolf and then a lot of the thing, i mean, a huge vibrant theater. seeing that i ended up going back to years later when i graduated from college at some time there. but yeah, amazing, amazing city. i can imagine that so getting in the blood there because you know that between your junior year and your senior year in high school, the world's roister in your mind. yeah. it's only later in life, you find that some people are allergic to crustaceans, but at that moment the world is your oyster and you're right in the game. wasn't a bit of beautiful, exciting out so amazing. and yeah, that's when i, i fell in love with it and decided that i was one of those kids early on. i knew what i wanted to do and, and, and everything from that point on was what was about becoming an actor. well, you ended up and as i said, for all time comedy, but the comedy is dry. it's not like, you know? yeah, yeah. in the world looks wonderful. but i'm wondering early on what more drama or comedy and what comedians did you like? you know, it's a, it's a great question that nobody ever asked me. i did much more drama early on in theater, and i think that actually we, we talk about this a little bit in the book that i think that part of greg daniel's genius that we talked about before. and probably the greatest comedy casting director in of all time, allison jones, what they did, whether they knew it or not. but the collection of people that they got to, to, to populate that office, not just as individuals, but their experience. right. so just to name a few like rain, wilson and myself really came from straight theater. then you got corral and angela kenzie. kate flannery, who were improper people. crag robinson. i don't know if you've seen crag robinson do. out of money is $1.00 of the funniest it puts on one of the funniest shows of all time b. j. novak did stand up. so i think all of that diversity of experience and both in acting and, and, and theater and comedy, really all of us together locked in that room with no fake walls and the camera moving around. and us being able to throw the ball back and forth to each other who had this, this variety of experience. i think that is part of what made the ensemble what it was. yeah. and the casting lady repeat her name because i'm on allison jones. allison jones, she killed those 2 leads. kazinsky, are you just look, i mean, he's the guy women. there's often the bad boy. the women do fall in love with the cool, funny, good jazz. they should love with he and that space. and she's like, i don't know, is it possible to find a sweeter sweetheart than her? they were so good together. yeah. unbelievable. well, how do you get from chicago, or? i don't even know if you go there after northwestern. do you say you went back to the theater? seeing the segue, do like leap frog to chicago and tell or tell me at all it happens. yes. so i grudge i graduated from s m u in dallas. and then yeah, i started doing that regional theatre circuit. right. so the gutter, i spent a bunch of time in minneapolis, the ga 3 and i perform. it's amazing. siller rating to be at the say. yes very. and everybody very close and intimate but huge. it's awesome. and berkeley wrap out in california, a c p. and so you know, i just started doing, i started doing that and i really thought that was my, my life was, was theater. i love doing it and, but it's, it's tough. i mean, as you know, it's, you know, 8 shows a week, monday is your day off and who has mondays off like it's, it's really tough. and eventually i decided to move to los angeles. and, and that was just where kids happen for me. about 34 months after i moved to los angeles, i met greg daniels and been silver mile. folks on the office. wow. you know what it is the debilitating in a way used to visit already. sure. when he was doing a little me and 8 shows that he literally was at the pump and back and he loved it . he was game for it, but it's debilitating in a way. but i'm reading a great book right now where a guy, interviews the 1st ladies and 1st gentleman of broadway. i can't remember the guy's name, he's a great oral history sort of guy. yeah, i was reading donna mckechnie last night and she would talk about a course slide and she said she was able to grab herself right before she went on stage tickets like 10 bucks or something at the beginning. you know, it became a big thing. but when they were working, doing the workshop, but she said, i would tell me that somebody's 10 bucks. i gotta go kill this and is as debilitating as can be. and i can see why eventually you'd want to get away and get into something a little more or less, less time, more war reward. but it much. it's exhilarating to it's such a it's like right stuff faster. not man. it's exhilarating the know you can play in that circle right. it is. and it's really interesting that that story. i should check out that book too because. yeah, there were time. and have you ever seen that movie a great movie, the dresser? sure. right. where is doing, you know, his 1000 performance of king lear and there was so now we're going deep dennis. there was a show that i ended up doing and not nearly for that long, but sort of often on for, for a couple of years where i played an old kabuki woman or an old woman in kabuki makeup. so white face with red and black in this traditional and of course they're in the theater. there is no makeup artists, right? like i'm doing it myself and i kept, i would think about that. the dresser, as i'm just like putting on that make up for like the 800 time thinking can i do this? can i do this and i do this and then of course, you know, 5 minutes before you know, you're just yeah, you perform because the people are there and there's nothing like that parental experience. well, the grace plane or the crowd, nobody had a gun there had to get into it. now you do it. i mean, i was always able to grab it somewhere and just shot for god's sakes, you're comedian. tell joe, get check. people. people laugh just slap you on the back more than people legitimately deserves lapse on the backs ever get. i used to think it was always great. you know, i know you that the office now operate visit really is gravy gravy. but man, i always thought about show business i sense that you did to, i'm going to dig this right. i'm not going to be neurotic about this 100 percent. yeah, absolutely. tell me about camera, and this is for the uninitiated audience, and probably everybody knows this. now this is like another stream of revenue people hook up with people who are famous and ask them to tape messages. well you explain it better and me to and kevin is the number one guy on there. number one earner, go ahead. poly walnuts. my number one or tell me well listen, i was very, very reticent and hesitant when it was approached me. i just, i didn't really understand it felt just nothing about it felt right. and i kept being told by a few people who were on like you should really give it a try because i think it's different than, than what you think. and here's how i view it now. right? is that it's not, it's actually not about celebrity. it's not about me. what it is, especially for me, i mean comedy. so people want to laugh and people have good feelings about the office. but to me, it is a father who watched this show or was a fan of kevin own with his daughter or a boyfriend and girlfriend or a service member overseas sent by their spouse here at home. it is about them wanting to make a connection together for this special about it's not about me. it's about here. here is a way, here's a show, here's a person that makes us feel closer together. yes. so how i, how i go about it is literally that, that i am the conduit between 2 people making a connection. and they have fond memories of me or the show or whatever else that, that i might have done. but it's about that. and that keeps me excited about it and enthusiastic about it and feel actually lucky to be given the opportunity to be a part of so much as human connection. i know that sounds cheesy and when my son don't say to me, it funds the opposite of teasing. well, it's to me that is, that is what it's about. and i, you know, my joke now is, i think i should investigate this. i should now be in the guiness book of world records. i think that i have successfully proposed to more people than anyone else on the planet. now they weren't marrying me budge. i asked the question and got a yes. as a response. i think now i think i and i lead the world of all time or ever and ever you'd have to knock bob evans when he was the head of paramount slot. because i think he's held that what it was. and then let's, let's call it a post modern handwritten note, you can set hallmark cards in there printed in blog printing. or you can send this thing where it's at least choreographed a little. there's a request made. and like you said, it's to me, it's not quite quill pen, but it's certainly a handwritten notes. somebody hand written love letter. and like i said, our friend brian is the most sought after guy over on cambia, which is sweet brian bombgardener has been joining us last week. and it's nice to meet him. i'm always such a big fan. welcome to dundas mifflin, the ultimate oral history, the office available for the hall. sarah reunited the cast to the iconic show they sure they're behind the scenes stories available bookstores, online. good to meet your brother. thank you so much, dennis. happy holidays up be holidays. ah. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy confrontation, let it be an arms. race is often very dramatic. development. the only personally, i'm going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very difficult time time to sit down and talk technology is a very big industry and there's a lot of opportunities for hackers moving that it's not here. right. but he didn't bring the law in that country. you're dealing with and why rest in the major cybersecurity challenge is the sovereignty of laws. but cyberspace has no borders, no sovereignty. we ended up with, for example, the national health service in the u. k. the and a chest was completely wiped out from a ransomware attack. if you are coming into a clinic, because you had a test or you had an operation, they can't find your records. they had to go back to pen and paper with ah, you guarantee unconditionally that you will not invade ukraine or any other southern country you keep demanding some guarantees from us. you must give us the guarantee it is up to you, and you must do it immediately. president through to the blaming night, so for exacerbating pensions along the rush from brauders. he answers questions during his annual media break.

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