Schools concluded that the bequest from a former pupil Professor sobriety Thwaites wasn't compatible with their values but the decision has prompted a debate about equality and race Simon Jones reports So Brian who's $96.00 had planned to bequeath 800000 pounds to win just the college and $400000.00 pounds the dollars college in his will he received scholarships to attend both schools and said he wanted his money to go to white boys from disadvantaged backgrounds because they do worse at school the most other ethnic groups he told The Times newspaper that if Cambridge University was prepared to accept money from the grime artist storm's easy to fund the education of 2 black students each year why shouldn't he do the same for underprivileged white pupils under the Equality Act education providers are allowed to take what's called positive action to remedy a disadvantage faced by particular groups of students but in a statement winches the college said it could not see how discrimination on the grounds of a boy's color could ever be compatible with its values and Dollops college said it was resistant towards being made with any ethnic or religious criteria the Iraqi prime minister Abdul Mahdi has condemned the u.s. Airstrikes yesterday that killed at least 25 members of an Iranian backed Iraqi militia he said the American action had violated his country's sovereignty and he appeared to suggest that Iraq would now have to review its relationship with the us the Americans targeted the Diab Hezbollah militia in retaliation for attacks on bases in Iraq used by the u.s. Military Unconfirmed reports say cars go in the former boss of Nisson Rhino who is awaiting trial in Japan has flown to Lebanon local sources said he arrived on board a private plane from Turkey it's not clear how Mr Goh who holds French and Lebanese citizenship would have been able to leave Japan where a court has placed restrictions on his movements he faces charges of financial misconduct which he denies. Police in Spain whelmed up their investigation into the deaths of a father from London and his 2 children who drowned in their hotel pool on the Costa del Sol on Christmas Eve Detectives say Gabriel Dia his 16 year old son and 9 year old daughter died in a freak accident however Mr Dia's wife the children's mother disputes that her lawyers have a thorough has raised questions about how for the police investigation was not known when they were not all got it down with a fairly things that I knew with cases so exceptional and so strange it's a sum of factors it's not only one could be the shape of the swimming pool temperature of the water or the levels of distress but it is clear that a lifeguard this wouldn't have happened in get I mean when 3 people die in the same swimming pool it has to be something else another reason that we don't know yet Spain's acting prime minister Petro Sancerre has signed a formal coalition agreement with the left wing only does support a most Party is a major step towards forming a government that can survive a confidence vote next month Mr Sanchez they were determined to forge a majority in parliament day by day law by law. The world's most famous naturalists a David Attenborough best known climate activists greater tune bag have spoken to each other for the 1st time the conversation organized by the Today programme was conducted over Skype so David who's 93 described the impact made by the 16 year old as astonishing and said she'd used her campaigning message to around the world created to Merck told him he had inspired her to take action when I was younger when I was maybe 8910 years old I think that's what made me open my eyes what was happening with the environment the climate was was fails and documentaries about about the natural world and what was happening that was what made me realize situations so thank you for that the song writer and comedian Neil Innes is do. Side at the age of 75 he found fame as part of the Bonzo Dog Band in the 1960 s. And later worked with the Monte Python team arts correspondent Vincent Dowd looks back at his life. And the urban spaceman written him song by Neil Innes was the only hits for the Bonzo Dog doo da band making the charts in 1968 but the Bonzo's were never aiming for mainstream success they celebrated a wild eccentricity in the seventy's Neil Innes worked with Monty Python he had small roles in the Holy Grail and Life of Brian and he wrote sketches and songs for their last t.v. Series he appeared with Eric Idle in the satirical b.b.c. Series Rutland Weekend Television which in turn gave birth to the affectionate Beatles parody the rattles then sit down on the life of Neil Innes Thanks Jim You're listening to the world tonight was surely it's hot and windy and there's a lot of smog a bare lot of far still gallons on best off Cape and any until it's all over I think what is happening to the weather every one of Australia's States has seen temperatures exceed 40 degrees Celsius in Western Australia reached 47 in Melbourne and the rest of the state of Victoria the heat and strong winds have fanned the flames making it impossible to evacuate people from some areas at risk from the bush fires raging out of control what we've seen up until today is more than 70 new fires in the state more than 20 of those are going fires at the moment Meanwhile in Moscow temperatures have been plus 4 degrees rather than the more typical minus 4 there unlike in Australia there's no threat to life rather the more present a concern from the authorities is what the unseasonal models could mean for Muscovites New Year festivities up until today it hadn't snowed it's been the woman's December since 886 Steve Rosenberg our correspondent in Moscow still hasn't needed. Thermals this year this is be one of the warmest Decembers on record in Moscow there's been hardly a flake the Moscow thought is brought in some fake snow to the center of the city a couple of days ago to make a snowboarding hill lots of reaction on social media to that lots of jokes about the fake snow but now we've got some real stuff I hope at last back here in Castle in northern Scotland on Sunday it reached 16.8 degrees Celsius the highest ever recorded in the final days of December not that many would have noticed the Met Office says the high was reached at 3 o'clock in the morning it might surprise you there is mild it across the Highlands of Scotland at the moment and coldest as it come down to earth the fact of England and those supposed just keep coming tonight confirmation from India that the north of the country including Delhi is experiencing one of its coldest spells in more than a century what's likely Daly will be recording the more or less in the long 119 years we have been reporting these old iron ore India had been under the grip of winter chill extreme. Morning as well relief on leaks back to doing the. Ready or whether or not these high lows a different part of the world revenues of global warming they underline the difficulty facing forecasters trying to predict what the weather will do will discuss that shortly if a Victorian g.p. From Whitby it had his way every drawing room in the country would have been equipped with a 10 pest prognosticator his device for predicting storms caused a sensation at the Great Exhibition in 851 but somehow it never caught on perhaps had something to do with who or rather was was doing the full custom leaches I've been to Merton in Devon to meet the man who's lovingly constructed an exact replica . Welcome to brutal world on Philip Collins I own and manage this establishment although I am semi retired and trying to retire if you are a broom or some make of many it yes we made Mercury barometers all sorts of different types of parameters is a great number of skills in making a traditional brooch had all about being able to predict when a storm was coming how poor it was that particularly in the early period megger important a barometer and the person using it which is important thing would be able to predict the storm often and save a crop stop or ship from going out to sea now you're back to show me something rather special in the history of weather prediction Yes I mean I've looked at repaired boat sold so many times of barometers I suppose my interest began into a little bit more unusual bizarre and this is one of the most bizarre types of weather forecasting devices let's go have a look. Well this apparatus was called atmospheric electromagnetic Telegraph conducted by animal instinct however the inventor Dr George Merryweather shortened it to the tempest prognosticator driven or operated by leeches you're safe because I have a leech isn't it today we have round wooden Bice decorated with red and gold and blue and on that 12 glass jars each one of those jars would have about an inch of water with a leech in it and they have air holes at the top little arrows at the top when it's going to be stormy a leech will try and rise from its prison from its Joe and they touch a little piece of bone once they touch that the bell at the top rings so you go what is it a dozen of these yes a dozen Dr George Merryweather coated the jury usually. Starts and you've tested it it works we've tested it my wife is very obliging we have this in our bedroom for someone outside. We didn't have a stall else but definitely the leaches rang the thing out of 3 o'clock in the morning because it was all times. This Tempest prognosticator if you come down in the morning and want to bells that go off well him up a bit of bad weather come in if I know I know 10 or go off you're pretty sure of a still expect you like to listen to the bell of to hear it even without the leaches at least to hear this lovely sound of his it do all the work is going into it we can ring the bell that. What happens now because you all retired and really the exhibition is closed we'd be lovely to find a home it was appreciated in so the public could see that it's a great thing for him that's got everything. To lay for Christmas so like this Christmas but he wrote have that. It is unique it's a one off it can only be and is only the most authentic reproduction of George merry way there's Tempest prognosticator. Philip Collins talking to me or to world down in Devon where Professor Liz Bentley is chief executive of the royal meterological society herself meteorologist and she's live in the world tonight studio for spending good evening there you have being with us this evening let me ask you 1st of all that it was going to be so mild in Moscow so cold in India Central more extremes would you have been able to forecast yes so we can certainly look at the trends of how things are changing but specific temperatures and the records and when they're going to get broken the kind of detail that you need on a day to day basis I think it's very difficult to forecast almost impossible to forecast that far ahead what impact if any is climate change having on the science of weather forecasting Yes So we took the climate change we have climate models and they are obviously looking decades ahead so they're not trying to predict the weather on a particular day say 10 years in advance in a particular location what they're trying to do is look at how the climate is changing so you know the temperatures rising in what are the kind of averages going to look like what have rainfall amounts going to look like but not specifics in the kind of detail that we need in a weather forecast which looks a few days ahead we do want to know particularly what the temperature and then fall and exciter going to be like on a particular day at a particular time in a particular occasion so they're very different type of things that we're trying to look at when we look at climate and weapons like I guess what confuses a lot of people is that we have events like for example the extreme flooding we seen lots of events this year that have been described as extreme in different parts of the world the flooding is a big one we worry about it and you can particularly people say will we reassured by the experts that this is what it once 100 year event suddenly has become a once in 10 year event a once in 5 year event is that climate change or is that because that the kind of mechanics of forecasting is not as effective as it once was yes I know that is that is climate change so you know if you look you know why. $100.00 you know events it basically is looking at what the climate used to look like a 100 years ago and these things probably only happened 100 years so one in a 100 year would you don't know is strange in other words until it does change that's right and the climate has changed we've been able to look at that looking at data that we collect and so dense that would have happened one in a 100 year frequency and now happy more frequency if you look at rainfall or less frequent if you're looking at cold events in particular so the frequency is changing the probability of things is changing because our climate is changing you raise the point about probability because forecasting can never be 100 percent accurate because it's a combination of different factors that come together in different ways. Can you give examples of sort of things that maybe a forecast would assume would happen and then would be thrown by the kind of combination of of weather event there's been some research done in to kind of how forecasts might the predictability of forecasts might change because of climate change there is a paper that came out earlier this year from the University of Stockholm and it looked at certain parameters so things like temperature and air pressure will become easier to predicts in future but things like rainfall events particularly summer time then fall events that usually come in the form of heavy funder down halls will be much harder to predict and that's partly due to the scale of these events it's partly due to the kind of excessive nature of the extreme events the the amount of rainfall that's likely to fall in a particular short period of time it's just too too difficult really to get the precise detail on these these are all the scallop I mean on a personal of a soft an inconvenience if you thought it was going to be sunny and it ends up running you have got your bell or your anchor with you but some of these things can have catastrophic consequences come when things of the flooding obviously are and whether that will affect things like where we choose to build much needed homes in the future when thinks of United States the potato crop having the road this year because of a severe weather that wasn't so predictable what are the kind of a. Konami consequences of this if we get it wrong oh huge absolutely huge and I think the it's the impacts of these extreme weather events that really are going to we're already starting to see that so again Christian Aid report at the end of last week looking financially at the impact of 15 of the 1st worst weather events that happened in the last decade or so and you're talking about billions of pounds tens of billions of pounds for one particular event in different parts of the world so financially it can be you know you know extreme catastrophic and presume you're organizations insurance people all those kinds in spend a lot of money on getting accurate predictions from Rogers Yes that's right and we go back to this one in 10 a 100 year event they will look at past climates to try and understand the frequency of these high impact events but understanding that our climate is changing and actually looking back over the last 100 years is not as helpful as trying to understand how the climate is changing in the decades ahead I guess the people are using things a bit more sophisticated than the tempest prognosticator these days what just before you leave is what's the kind of strangest way of predicting the weather you've you've encountered in your long career that actually works well you have heard of seaweed and pine cones they tend to look at humidity in the atmosphere to help to understand whether the air is becoming drier or more moist I remember when I was a forecast of I worked there was a lady I worked with who she could tell when the static was building up in the atmosphere when thunderstorms were like she'd feel nauseated and she for me said we got from the storms in the focus today so even humans can have you know an impact on what the weather is going to do it's not just leeches that respond to the pressure present his belly thank you very much for being with us fascinating and maybe we'll talk to get in a year's time see how 2020 what. The sound of demonstrators in bastra and I chaffed to Shiite dominated cities in southern Iraq chanting anti-American slogans a burning u.s. Flags today their response to air strikes last night carried out by the u.s. Against Iraqi Parliament of Trees who had but who are backed by Iran 25 people died 51 way injured in bombing raids against facilities operated by the Hezbollah point Gates on either side of the border with Syria u.s. Secretary of state Mike pump Ayers said the strikes were carried out in retaliation for a rocket attack on an Iraqi military base in cook cook on Friday in which an American a civilian contractor died this wasn't the 1st set of attacks against this particular Iraqi for Celie and others for their American lives arrests and today what we did was take a decisive response that makes clear what President Trump has said for months and months and months which is that we will not stand for the Islamic Republic of Iran to take actions that put American men and women in jeopardy and we continue to demand that the Islamic Republic of Iran act in a way that is consistent with what it is that we expect Iran to do so that it can rejoin the community of nations having you know pleas from Iraq's acting prime minister not to go ahead with the raids the government in Baghdad today accused Washington of violating its sovereignty country's national security council said it was reviewing the relationship which for now at least permits $5000.00 u.s. Military personnel to operate inside Iraq Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani revered by the Shiites who make up the majority of Iraq's Muslims so this government must prevent Iraq being used as a place for the settling of accounts in other words the battleground for proxy war between Iran and the United States an advisor to the Baghdad government Laith Kubba told the b.b.c. The Us administration needed. To have a different perspective on his country they only see an Iraq from the perspective of keeping it on a track I think it's very shortsighted the I spect it is to support Iraq built its state and its state institution and that's the only way you can have stability in the region and Iraq is a neighbor and has no interest in antagonizing Iran we do want to see a balanced relationship and that Bannister in a ship can already happen if there is a strong state in Iraq Laith Kubba Well William went sleighs director of the Atlantic Council he was deputy assistant secretary of defense for special operations and combating terrorism in the Obama administration what does he make of the decision to strike back I think is very significant it has the potential to drive the region in a much more dangerous place it is a game of chess that we seem to be playing against the Iranians but only one move at a time and it is very unclear where this is all going to end do you think that there was a conscious attempt by Iran through its proxies to kind of probe the American response that this wasn't just a casual attack on Friday. The Iranians have been very methodically working their way up the escalation latter trying to discover where the American Red lines are a Rand 1st started attacking the shipping with the most thin reed of deniability 'd possible and there was no real response then they took a drone out of the sky there was almost a response a truly catastrophic one but in the end there was no response to that either this is when President Tom canceled an air strike that he was planning because he felt the number of casualties would be disproportionate exactly then they did a very sophisticated attack against the energy infrastructure in Saudi Arabia of the kind that we had never seen before and there was no response whatsoever. And now unleashing their proxies in Iraq to throw rockets at us facilities those rocket strikes have been increasing for quite a long time and it was only a matter of time before someone was killed and so there was a response limited to the Iranian proxy in the territory that the Iranian proxy operated and so were ceding the decision about how to frame and scope the battlefield to the enemy which is a one o one thing that you learned at West Point not to do so what we've seen over the last couple years is is a case study in policy malpractise now the acting prime minister of Iraq spent we're told Huff now on the phone to the u.s. Defense accept leading to the should attack should not go ahead and was in effect ignored what are the implications for Iraq's sovereignty in this decision it's an incredibly bad situation for Iraq Iraq very understandably has tried 1st and foremost to avoid the situation that they now find themselves in which is that their country is the battleground for a proxy war or even a direct war between the United States and Iran and then of course this all happens not in a time when the Iraqi government is stable but at the time when it is trying this Lee in stable and the prime minister has resigned over a month ago and when the political class is under great pressure from continuing protests and does not seem to be able to produce another government the placement of the timing for this Iranian action is not accidental they're choosing Iraq as the battlefield because of these circumstances what they want to do is they want to drive the United States out of Iraq and have a free hand to pick the next Iraqi government without u.s. Meddling and the way to do that is by provoking the kind of reaction which will force the Iraqi political class to rescind their in the. Nation for u.s. Forces to be present on their soil now there are 5000 u.s. Troops there at the moment who went back in as part of the fight against a group that calls itself Islamic state I mean if there is a political push for the u.s. Troops to leave and we know that the National Security Council in Iraq met today and has agreed to review the relationship with Washington if there is this pressure to get the troops out would that both the President Trump because after all he's been on record as saying he wanted to get the troops home. I mean it should bother him but you're right in that it might not at the end of the day the great irony is that the Iran and President Trump might actually share an objective of getting u.s. Forces out of the region there of course that opinion is not held by the professionals at the Department of State at the Department of Defense at the Central Intelligence Agency who understand what that means for the region and for u.s. Interests but it's a quite plausible outcome at this point I think that professionals in Iraq also don't want that outcome and that we pushing against the political pressure that will be coming to bear Where does this leave Iran strategy towards the United States victorious at least temporarily in the least in this theater they want the United States out they want to be able to call the shots in Iraq they want to have the Lebanon zation of Iraq where they have a very weak central government and a parallel security and social services structure that the Iraqi version of Hezbollah will provide just like they do in Lebanon this is the Iranian model of governance that they are projecting and without the United States there they're more likely to succeed William Wechsler at the Atlantic Council a quick reminder if you want to listen back to any of this program or previous editions you can go to our website we can also download our daily podcast that line so far on the world tonight at just approaching 20 minutes past 10. Then the Foreign Office says it will raise concerns with officials in Cyprus about the trial of a British woman who was found to have lied about being gang raped Unconfirmed reports say Carlos Ghosn the former boss of misandry know who is awaiting trial in Japan has flown to Lebanon and police in Spain have concluded that 3 members of a British family who drowned in a swimming pool on Christmas Eve died in a tragic accident the case can now be closed. 5 years ago Nigeria in effect criminalized gay relationships by signing into law the Same Sex Marriage Prohibition Act essentially Paddy The activists say the law is worse of Discrimination Against Sexual Minorities in the highly religious country they also claim there's been a rise in instances of extortion and blackmail by the security forces our correspondent by any Jones investigates what life is now like for Nigeria's gay community. Lagos is Nigeria's largest city and here everyone is hustling their way to the top it's the commercial and entertainment hard Africa's biggest economy. To stand out here some are forced to hide. A Christian family. Just family believes Allen sex relationship to read more Nick not his real name to conceal his identity out of concern for his safety when he told his family he had feelings for other men his sister reacted badly a few days later she asked him to meet with her but when he showed up she and a so-called prophet forced him into conversion therapy who had come in at intervals to. Do some spiritual exercise I said which included stripping naked and flogging. And all of that. Fed the. Exertion the pain or scarring her I passed out. Conversion therapy is a term used for any form of so-called treatment that attempts to change sexual orientation or reduce same sex attraction it's common in Nigeria where in 2014 the Same Sex Marriage Prohibition Act was passed essentially banning gay relationships those who come out to. Family and Community are often forced to undergo treatment this woman who we're calling Marie did it voluntarily I raised my legs and then we poured oil into my vagina now I don't know the content of what was in the oil because it was kind of peppery but so it made me quite uncomfortable but I mean for me it was interesting because when I got to do with the that time I didn't really know much so for me I was ready to do anything. To. Feel of same sex attraction already to just do anything to make it. Many see the 24 team has also led to a pattern of police persecution and extortion of those who are suspected of being gay in also not his real name is a young designer who lives and works in Lagos he says he was stopped by the police while on the back of a motorbike taxi wearing shorts he stopped in the bike and everything and you're kidnapped pretty much pushed into view call anyone nor do a policeman cause or when when when police uniforms or when black shirts you know being pushed into you know into a boss and being threatened with rape if incredibly an acceptable what's it like being a gay man. Being a gay man and you're it's very very scary when you're a member or below it it isn't. Like you know walk in class if you are rich or your fancy marchin on you on the car you're fine no one's going to stop you because of your privilege but you're someone who is on the ground level or just trying to make life work with top. The initiative for equal rights tiers is one of the few organisations openly working with the Nigerian plus community Zina Mohammed is the executive director of young people especially young men happen effect. Specifically by the same sex marriage prohibits because the police have used it as a cover to basically target people that they find to not conform to masculinities in the way that they imagine and they detain people like that and they extort them from any trucking where the attitudes to do queer community are changing is difficult it's a topic that remains taboo but for many Nigeria is still one of the most difficult countries in the world to be lost that was my Any Chance reporting from Lagos as Melissa has sung it that was the year that was it's over. For a clutch of familiar political names it's more than a year they're saying goodbye to it's a Korea I've been speaking to 3 who were in the House of Commons for between 18 and 49 years all served on the front lines in the battle for breaks it Kate Hoey Labor m.p. For Vauxhall in London for 30 years and a prominent advocate of leaving the e.u. So no Midland liberal Democrat m.p. In North Norfolk since 2001 who opposed it but also his own party's plan to in effect cancel the referendum results and Ken Clarke elated his conservative m.p. From Russia Cliff who served in the Commons just 7 months short of half a century despite that we've been talking a lot about the past but the future we join the conversation is Kate Hoey was born in Northern Ireland and supports it remaining in the u.k. Responded to my question is she. Worried about the future of the Union coming from from Northern Ireland yes of course there's been and the majority of people voted to stay in in the e.u. But either have always rejected that that is going to actually make any real difference it to any kind of threat to the union in terms of a Border Patrol most people who moved over to the Alliance for its probably use position would not vote for a united Ireland so I don't have any worries about that and I hope again you know once we get January 31st took over no it's I keep saying that I mean I I think really do think it's going to happen this time but you know then we've got to start getting on and start being proud of our country and speaking up for it and not doing it dying all the time can't look up what about that question then of the relationship between politics and the courts Well that's very worrying I mean all governments dislike losing actions in courts but I mean these are very bad side in that this kneejerk middle of an election reaction is that oh well we got to do something to stop the courts it disagreed with us has made its way into the Queen's speech we have an unwritten constitution which I always thought was one of my great strengths but it didn't work in the last few months and the government started ignoring all the conventions which we thought were binding when parliament was getting a nuisance they tried to stop Parliament sitting for 4 or 5 weeks at a time and then the. Courts ruled that that was unconstitutional the immediate reaction was to start denouncing the judges for interfering and some idiot full of the hot blubber and election campaign seems to have carried this through and put it into the Queen's speech that we're now going to legislate and we probably if we can't get back to the Will tried conventions of parliamentary democracy we're going to have to start looking at a written constitution but in the. No hubris a victory for the government starts saying well nobody's going to interfere with their we do know and we're going to reduce the power of parliament and when the glue courts say that things are unconstitutional that will be very worrying indeed and I wanted the government has talked about it the Queen's speech before Christmas but it's talked quite a long time about a desire to get some sort of consensus on social care so that in England we finally have a social care model which is supported by all the political parties and therefore won't be changed. Given the level of cross particle pollution that existed in the last Parliament for good or real what do you think the prospects are of progress on that I mean I asked because you were a health minister nor you know the coalition government and you're also the Liberal Democrat spokesman a time when there was talk of that at the end of the last Labor government Yeah in 2009 I brought together Andy Burnham an Andrew Lansley to try to agree a statement of principles about how we might reform the funding of social care in the 3 of us worked together that was blown out of the water when the conservatives launched their death tax campaign in the run up to the general election a tragic lost opportunity in my view have spent the last 3 years argue the case for across party approach to both the n.h.s. And social care this is one of those issues which hasn't being capable of resolution by parties acting on their own and I think it is time for a new settlement as it were which isn't just about money it's also about how the money is spent now in the last 3 years the Conservative government was resistant to cross party working I'm pleased that they're now saying it at least with regard to social care but it has to have substance and then just as they say that they need to get the negotiation of the future relationship with the e.u. Done by the end of 2020 they all. So should be prepared to set a time scale for resolving the social care funding issue because the danger is that it continues to drift on without resolution and this has real consequences for people across our country. Know when you're going to be missed very much on this whole area but I believe tonight I know I would I would hope that the 2 new leaders because it can be a new leader of the Liberal Democrats as well that actually this would be an opportunity to for them right from the beginning to say that this is a priority in terms of working together and then I think from what Boris Johnson has said so far the prime minister would could go along with that and we could end up with really making this you know the kind of thing running in parallel with with it's not a good saw and no it's not it's not it's not a chance there's not a chance of all this I mean I've been. Getting very cynical. I've been a health minister you know like all of us I mean around for a long time and this idea that the instead of having a policy on social care which nobody had in the election despite the fact it's probably the most pressing problem we face it was a good way for we get off by saying we're going to work towards across party agreement but I believe that when I see it with the present political climate this are pretty because you have to you can't do immediately popular things it is difficult to reason discovered when she flew briefly but rather adventurous policy into an election but we did it all day mentions get at it Turner Broadcasting in the. Season agreed. Tricky we in the movie go big crisis and social care is probably the biggest social crisis and it's issue the country faces we've got no policy on the health service except a sum of money which is quite good but I mean no clarity about how we're going to spend it's a bundle not can't spend building new hospitals isn't actually the problem and remember always over health service and what the health service would benefit from most would be. Action of farms and proper reform of Social Care But the public would lead to be expect that it's all going to be free to every user I mean it's going to be like the health service read nice if you could afford it but you can't waste a couple of years with the useless dogs trying to get an all party agreement ducks the responsibility of government no they got a big majority they need or almost certainly a controversial piece of legislation and a sum of money in the 1st year or $2.00 it's the. Potent us they've got to get on with we have to remember incidentally that the extra money that we're talking that Ken's just talked about is actually significantly below the historic average for the health service in the hope postwar period and social care since 2010 has fallen right back so we're not even catching up to where we were in 2010 but it's the very you're passionate it so it will vary in party points not only you know I'm just making the point that it's that it is all right there and we don't have enough resources to sort this and that's why along with the complexity that the political complexity of getting reform sorted that is why you need to try to get a kid said says well you have to you have to get onto a fragile stagnant economy which is meant to be generating the results of that but nobody's got a policy on that told we'd better leave that one to the next generation. He said delicately this will be the 1st year in the 1122 years when you have been thinking about politics in immediate concern for you when you go back after the break. Or to be the 1st year if you and 30 is Ken Clarke at least the 1st year if you in 50 years who wants to pitch in 1st but what are you going to do next. It's a very very profound silence and. There's a verse probably telling us. If you believe there's a lot to say you should go 1st. What about going to do. My lameness limits by bird watching will actually get back to my bird watching kids our national carrier football as I always do but eyes like the cricket season they're going to watch a hell of a lot of cricket in a political addict I suspect rather longer read in the newspapers and try to join in politics where I get the charms of afraid I mean curable and life's too short to Kate Hanni Well I hope I'm going to be able to have time to read a lot because I do find that I read an awful lot less than I used to and I'd like to do more of that probably watch Northern Ireland hopefully trans going to the European Championships I always try to see them and I won't have to worry about votes and things and again like can I mean I don't think any of us will be not interested in what's going on and taking a general interest in politics and I'm also particularly keen to do what I can to make sure that we preserve the union and that's why I spent a lot time in Northern Ireland as well. You're the one who is actually actively going back to work yes I am and it's all happened rather sooner that I'd planned thought of a period of reflection before making decisions but I have ended up agreeing and being selected to be chair of the south under the more the better health trust which starts in March and I'm thrilled and excited by it and my passion is trying to pursue the cause of equality for those people who suffer from mental ill health I'm joining a wonderful institution and the opportunity to move from talking the talk which is what I've spent a lot of time doing about the change that's needed a mental health to actually walk the walk is a really exciting one and I'm really looking for to after having a proper break to recharge batteries that time of the year I wonder finally if if you have any personal or political use resolutions. Well my new era as a nation is actually to turn away from party politics I've done it for 18 plus years plus 11 has to do with my seat before that and now is the time for a new chapter for b. And I've got to resist the temptation which will be very real to get stuck into political debate from the outside Well I don't know many make new year resolutions but I really do want to cut down on the amount of chocolate I eat. I have to say doesn't show the. Heart. That nothing's that healthy to. Just keep a result to enjoy my retirement and telling myself to relax politically I mean there's nothing. I still believe that everybody ours we do but I quite except I'm certainly not to interfere with my successor who will make her own way in the world and don't point boring her with my view of what I would do if I was to get Ken Clarke Kate Hoey and cinnamon lamb thanks to them just time before we leave you for our closing headline the Foreign Office says it will raise concerns with officials in Cyprus about the case of a British woman who was convicted of lying about being raped by a group of Israeli men her lawyers claim she didn't receive a fair trial that's the world's lights I'm sure lay back with you tomorrow night for now good night. The studio director was and e-mails and the editor John Rigby. Our mixed nuts with the lies. You should know things like that is Christmas pudding didn't make time for the radio treats you missed over Christmas there's a lot to catch up on where all the celebrities that there's probably robbing soldiers when they get Robey a big. Joke is like an antique watch you have to tinker with the mechanism to get it just right remember th a n k y yes don't forget you thank you letters. For Radio 4 on b.b.c. Science. Now on Radio 4 Simon Russell Beale continues to read the secret Commonwealth the book of dust Volume 2 by Philip Pullman as Lyra sets out on a dangerous journey across Europe the missing demon pantomime and he continues his own quest for answers. Pantilimon left the school in Elsa at Cook's home. The boat a tied up to an old war for the soon as night fell he darted down the gangway into the shadows of the harbor. And I was just a matter of finding the river and setting off for Britain back. At the same time liar was sitting in the forward saloon of a crowded ferry heading for the Dutch coast she would rather sat outside so as to be alone but it was bitterly cold should manage to find a seat in the corner to demonise state caused as alarm at 1st and she feared most of the passengers seem simply tired or indifferent among them were a group of men at the bar who were laughing together and speaking Welsh if Panna be there he could have played Detective and tried to work out their occupation Well she could still do that she thought. But then a bulky middle aged man sat down next to her then the man's demon a small brown dog started yapping loudly What is it Bessie the man lifted her up and she whispered in his ear. Looked away something badly wrong here the man said loudly this young woman has got no daemon How could I go anywhere without a demon Lyra said calmly Well where is he then the man demanded his dog still yapping loudly it's got nothing to do with you lie I went to stand up but found her arm held by the man let me go it's all right so the Welsh voice Lara turned to see 2 of the men from the group by the bar will take care of the buggy man let go of Lyra come with us said the Welshman Lyra thought is it going to end so soon then I won't let it once for outside I'll attack the stick Bicheno was in her sleeve ready to be drawn she followed the 2 men outside and as soon as they were on the deck she pulled out the stick and then she stopped the men were standing back hands up smiling their demons a badger and a canary stood still and peaceable So all right Mares So the taller man just had to get you out of there that's all which aren't you sorry of that's rude how do you know said Lyra her voice shaking we've seen your people before said the other I'm going and this is Duffy where miners I'm Tatiana as are a lot of now Larry said where are you going back to Siler said when Sweden silver mines that's where we met her which said it should come to buy some silver God landlocked you know the pine branch out pine I said. Someone stole it got it back and where are you traveling to Tatiana said Quin I'm going to look for a problem that only grows in Central Asia my queen is ill without it shall die and your demon said when I didn't like to ask before he's flown home to tell him how far I've got Lara shivered and put a coat collar up want to go inside the double will stay with you she nodded she followed them to the aft saloon where people were mostly sleeping Lyra sat down and clasped the rucksack firmly on her lap thank. Our remember this. She closed her eyes and the exhaustion overcame her at once. At the Gasthaus eyes and by the Moonies believe here Bond movie was trying to find Lyra. But he couldn't see any sign of her or her demons. But something changed. He gripped the lithium into tightly and closed his eyes and concentrated. There was a rustle among twigs and leaves it was dark and one brambles which. Startled he looked for a fraction of a 2nd he saw the girl's demon outlined against the darkness of a wide river. And no go the demon was alone. Hours I could see she and her demon were separated and the new method was obviously drawn to the demon so many discoveries. Demon was travelling alone along a great river Dannie remained to discover which one Malcolm's eyes were giving him trouble the spangled ring had been trembling out of sight for days they had reached Geneva late in the afternoon that arrived by bus because bus stops are rarely watched by the authorities. He asked to got off in a dreary suburb and then made their way along the side of the lake Markham stopped and rubbed his eyes I can feel it too said asked it's as if the damn things happen all the spangles got blown everywhere I want wait a minute he was pointing to the lake shore boat house yes there was just a dark rectangle to his human eyes but the spangled ring encircled it with brilliance and certainty they followed the path down towards it the door of the boat house was padlocked but the wood around it was rotten Markham pulled the lock away easily and they stepped inside moved so fast r.c. For you there's a boat here some kind of dinghy there's a name mean you're on Markham's vision was returning to normal Well nice to know you mean your. Letters here as to said as they went back up the path towards the road of course it did rude to ignore it Malcolm Farr the cheap hotel and registered under one of his false names and he went out to get something to eat he found a small brass ring next door and he ordered Pato for as the waiter brought his meal he noticed a man sitting alone in the corner of the room he was shabbily dressed and might have been Central Asian he's watching us as to moment and he's talking to his demon in touchy The man was still there when Malcolm finished eating and returned to the hotel 2 in the morning there came a knock on his door Mark was out of bed in a 2nd Who's that. I have to speak to you Malcolm pulled out his trousers and opened the door it was the man and he was frightened the Serpentina was looking back along the corridor who are you my name is Smith sad cut him off. Your name he's posted. Yes I do want to know so I can warn you about the. He has learned of your presence in the city and has ordered the watch kept on every road the railway station and the very terminals he wants to capture you I heard this from a man I defended at. And now you must leave quickly because the police are searching the houses nearby Markham went to the window at the end of the street 3 men in uniform were talking under a streetlight he turned back well Mr Karimov now looks like a very good time to leave I'm going to steal a boat when you come with me. Had a Lyman and never felt so exposed as on his journey up the Elba he crept along riverbanks slipped aboard barges laden with rice or sugar and scamper through boat chance keeping to the shadows but finally he reached Rittenberg. He knew the brand his house was called a scarf one house and it was behind the static kill her. It shouldn't be too difficult to find. Food. To deliver Bondi jubilantly. He was on an old river. He'd been watching. Since it 1st see him on the riverbank it wasn't long before he realized Lyra's Diem was travelling up the elder. Travel by train to dressed and then booked a cabin on the steamboat. He was in my snow. Ice and was 6 hours journey but. Not long now pan clambered rooftop to rooftop his nature was suited to high things he scatter the area around the staticky her and eventually found a house the look promising by creeping down a drain pipe he made other words dust cuff and house on a brass plate by the front door. Another climb and then he was on the roof of the trade Brander's house there was someone playing in the garden a girl was throwing a ball against the wall he clambered down through some ivy the girl saw him but took no notice she was about 15 years old and her demon was a small mouse is the house of God Brander. Talk to you. When the ghosts to secure the 1st. Keep coming back at the board say a word pan wasn't sure what he'd heard Thanks he said quietly then he left her and ran to the house and jumped up through the open window in a book lined study Godfried Brander was sitting at a large desk watching him he was a large boned band gaunt and stiff his expression was one of stark terror his demon a large German Shepherd led his feet Brandon looked away from Pan and stared into the corner of the room. Was disconcerted he crossed the room and leapt up on to the desk you've stolen Lyra's imagination or corrupted it I've come here to make you under the damage you've done branded closed his eyes who's the girl outside she said there were ghosts here you think I'm a ghost still no response your diminish a ghost too many ghosts the girl said did you mean demons you don't believe in demons til you brand opened his eyes and looked down at his demon his expression was ferocious. Brander said Come visit me the demon stood up unwillingly and moved towards the door Brander stood up to go with her but then the door flew open and the girl came in the German shepherd the demon coward. Said the girl making a face this rope is for half dead makes it go away. Her demon became Iran and flew around her head calling pitifully I've heard enough Brenda said cause she completely but as the dog demon moved the wren flew at her like a dart the dog house and fled from the room pan stared in amazement Brandon and his demon could separate the man showed no sign of pain rather stead after his demon to believe in imagination said Pan you imagine the story of the hive occur as means I constructed it from 1st principles I builds a narrative to shorter lodged outcome of superstition and stupidity I came here said Pan because reading your novel persuaded my Lyra that the things she believed in were false it made her unhappy it was if you'd stolen her imagination I wanted to find it and take it back to her Have you got anything for me to tell her everything is what it is and nothing else said Brandon that's all you have to say rather didn't answer he just sat down on the floor and put his face in his hands. And stood for a while staring at him and he went to the window and climbed out on to the ivy. He didn't know Atika just. The same time only a few streets away Olivea bomb vien was disembarking from the very. The secret commonwealth a book of dust Volume 2 was written by Philip Pullman and read by Simon Russell Beale It was a bridge by Dorian are still and produced by Michael Shannon for b.b.c. Northern Ireland and the story continues here tomorrow night at 1045 and in a couple minutes after the news the insecurity guards hunt down ideas before they can make it to George's pod cast. B.b.c. News at 11 o'clock the Foreign Office says it has serious concerns about whether a woman convicted by a court in Cyprus of lying about being gang raped received a fair trial the 19 year old withdrew a statement about being assaulted by 10 Israeli men but claims she was coerced into doing so by police she could face up to a year in prison when she's sentenced in a week. The former boss of run on Nissen who's been under house arrest in Tokyo accused of financial wrongdoing has flown to Lebanon Carlos Ghosn who's part Lebanese arrived in Beirut by private plane last night it's not clear if he left Japan with the agreement of the authorities is to go on denies enriching himself with his company's expense and misstating his income. Police in Spain of closer investigation into the deaths of a father from London and his 2 children who drowned in their hotel pool on the Costa del Sol on Christmas Eve Detectives say Gabriel Dia his 16 year old son and 9 year old daughter died in a freak accident however Mr d. Is wife disputes that have a thorough have Spanish lawyer representing the family says it's not true that the victim's couldn't swim what is normal and indeed all but a mother can find that if I feel there was probably misunderstanding with a translation it's been said they can't swim but the mother statements clear she didn't say they couldn't swim in the daughter's took swimming class the last class was a week before the holiday the husband is from Nigeria and it's women rivers it's just his wife says she had never seen him swear to private schools have defended a decision to turn down an offer of more than a 1000000 pounds to help disadvantaged white boys Delitzsch in Winchester colleges said the bequest wasn't compatible with their values and they didn't want to award scholarships based on ethnicity. Police in West Sussex have arrested 2 men following reports that several women found peer. 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