very sensitive — something unexpected. ukrainians are very sensitive to _ something unexpected. ukrainians are very sensitive to russian _ something unexpected. ukrainians are very sensitive to russian influence - very sensitive to russian influence on the running of the country. do you ever see a day when ukraine can join nato or the eu? {lit you ever see a day when ukraine can join nato or the eu?— join nato or the eu? of course, a lot depends _ join nato or the eu? of course, a lot depends on — join nato or the eu? of course, a lot depends on ukraine _ join nato or the eu? of course, a lot depends on ukraine and - join nato or the eu? of course, a i lot depends on ukraine and reforms but a _ lot depends on ukraine and reforms but a lot— lot depends on ukraine and reforms but a lot has been achieved and in different— but a lot has been achieved and in different circumstances, other countries _ different circumstances, other countries in the end of 90s and 2000 patients— countries in the end of 90s and 2000 patients were accepted. eight years a-o patients were accepted. eight years ago it— patients were accepted. eight years ago it would be impossible. —— the end of— ago it would be impossible. —— the end of the — ago it would be impossible. —— the end of the 90s and the 2000s, they were accepted. the current situation shows _ were accepted. the current situation shows if_ were accepted. the current situation shows if you're not part of the alliance, — shows if you're not part of the alliance, there is no international structure — alliance, there is no international structure of security to support any country _ structure of security to support any country outside of nato._ country outside of nato. thank you so much for— country outside of nato. thank you so much forjoining _ country outside of nato. thank you so much forjoining us. _ country outside of nato. thank you so much forjoining us. so, - country outside of nato. thank you so much forjoining us. so, we - country outside of nato. thank you | so much forjoining us. so, we have a complicated path to this point, diplomacy has been continuing that the tension isn't going down on that border. . ~' , ., , the tension isn't going down on that