ukraine and, of course, we have seen a very defined the zelensky who has said that they will not negotiate with a gun to their head. there have been several rounds of negotiations already between the two sides but they haven't had any kind of successful outcome so far, 11 days into this conflict. there was also talk of humanitarian corridors that were promised but, as we've seen in places like mariupol, there was also talk of humanitarian corridors that were promised but, as we've seen in places like mariupol, fired out. one such person who fled the conflict in the south in odesa is a woman i met earlier lviv train station. earlier i spoke to yelena, who'd just arrived here in lviv after leaving her home in odesa in the south of ukraine this morning, leaving herfamily and her parents behind. they told me, like, you should leave, so i should listen to what my parents say, so, yes, i left.