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Sentiment is negative will have no bearing on what happens. What about europe . How concerned are you about europe, that its going to rear its ugly head yet again, that we havent seen the worst, especially on the Banking System . I think, that you know, to contrast europe and the United States, both areas went through a severe trauma to the credit of the United States. We put in a lot of changes. There was a lot of deleveraging, banks, in particular, but other firms went out and raised a lot of capital quickly. Liquidity and i think they are in very good shape, and, of course, no one has outrun having to deal with legacy issues, but they are being dealt with simultaneously or even after weve addressed the situation and gotten the economy, if you will, in a better shape. In europe they some of those havent been done. Theres not theres still a lot of leverage in the system. A lot of capital hasnt been raised, and they have one of the things that gave europe its advantage and a tailwind which is the euro has also made it more difficult for those countries to really have an easing Monetary Policy or come to a consensus on things to support the economy, and so i think they have had a tougher time of doing it. Now, they should be commended, the official sector in europe has done a lot to take the worst Case Scenarios off the table, like, for example, the collapse of the euro. Thats not really in anyones contemplation as it was a year ago. Still sounds like you have a little bit of worry, a little bit of worry about the risks that remain in europe. Well, the issues are growth. There are growth issues and high unemployment on the prifry, and even germany is showing issues with respect to growth because ultimately youre not going to grow if if your customers cant afford to buy your products. And so thats something that europe has to wrestle with. They have to wrestle with their slow growth, and they have to figure out how to stimulate the economy, and like were finding in this country, too, thats part of the debate in this country. Your opportunities to stimulate the economy for growth are less and less the bigger your budget deficit is. You lose a little bit of flexibility when your budget deficit is so high. Let me turn your attention before we go to back to the markets but to activism in the markets. You introduced tim cook today on stage earlier today. Tim cook is facing a challenge from David Einhorn the way that they are deploying massive amounts of cash that they have on their balance sheets. Are activists like that, or in all cases, are they good for the markets . Look, without addressing the particular situation that you described, i would say that activists are certainly useful. You cant necessarily take anything at face value because activists are have their own agenda, and some of them tend to be more short term. If youre running a company, you dont have the nimbleness and flex ann. You cant change your strategy every day. An activist can get into or out of a shareholding any day. And so you have you have different time horizons, maybe different agendas, and a company has to represent all its shareholders, ant not just a portion of its shareholders and think for the long term. But having said that, its a good part of the cocktail of elements that a ceo should have giving inflooins fluns, and they should be listened to. They shouldnt be taken as gospel. Their remarks should be discounted by what you know their interests are, but it should be foolish to take good advice from wherever you want to get it. Barclays is making news today in cutting more head count. You guys done, happy with where we are as we sit here today . Were happy where we are. Were always sculpting our business. In normal times we hire people. If we hire 100 people out of school, we dont have all 100 people 20 years, 25 years down. Theres people who always leave and some are held to leave. Always had a policy in our firm to tell the bottom 5 performers in our firm that its probably they are probably better off in another firm or another industry, and thats something that i think is part of managing a company well. So that i would regard as a normal culling of the herd that we would have in our business regularly. I would say that were more or less close to that kind of normal. Now if conditions turn south, we would examine our head count and decide whether the firm should shrink extraordinarily and not just the ordinary work that we do in managing our population but, you know, something one of the reasons why we dont feel that pressure is that we made a lot of these adjustments early in this cycle, and in 2010 is when we did a lot of that kind of work. Been a pleasure. Thanks so much. I know you have to go and introduce marisa meyer who is going to take the stage in a few moments. Back to you. Maria, bill. Thanks very much. I was always under the impression, and you have insights on this, that the Lloyd Blankfein beard which first showed up in davos was a way to keep warm in the swiss alps. You a new look and its working for him. Hello, everybody. Welcome to the closing bell. Bill, i think were in fiveyear high territory. Yes, we are. Check it out. Dow up 67 points, but on todays show, dont look now, but we could be closing above 14,000 for the First Time Since february 1st, and we could get ever closer to that mythical 14,164 alltime high on the dow. Is it possible we could do that today . I doubt that. Hard to believe, bill. Well keep an eye. Were talking about alltime record highs here. The Market Driving towards new highs as the president is preparing to deliver the state of the Union Tonight just in a few hours from now. What does wall street want to hear . What might set the tone for the markets tomorrow . Looking at proposals that could send stocks a leg higher or spur a pullback tomorrow. Lets show you the situation about the Carnival Cruiseship. A terrible story in the gump of mexico rapidly deteriorating. Theres reports now of absolutely miserable conditions for the passengers on board. People forced to sleep on deck with limited access to bathrooms and food. We have a live report coming up on that story. But back to the top story. The rallying stock market, check it out, very close to the highs of the day, just shy of it earlier as bill mentioned. Hit a five high high, intraday high of 14,037, but, of course, the all time you just saw is 120 points away or so. We are looking at this market continue to drive higher with money moving into aed bro base of equity. Nasdaq also strong, check it out. Nasdaq higher but now in negative territory, down three points. Apple has been a laggard for that index today. Thats whats taking the nasdaq into negative tir tray. S p 500 looks like this, looking at gains there, 3. 5 points on the nasdaq, now up about three points. The dow back above the 14,000 mark. The alltime high within reach right now. Yeah. 14,164 is the alltime high. Well keep that down, write it down in pencil though. Todays closing bell exchange, Ralph Acampora from altera Investment Solutions in snowy minnesota and carol roth, the author of entrepreneur equation in snowy chicago and so is rick santelli. Ralph acampora, youve been calling for alltime highs. I mean, were trying here, but arent we due for a correction of some kind at some point . You know, everybodys worried about the correction, and i think the market is handling the situation in a very orderly manner. I am very, very impressed. We have our up days and pull barks, but i dont see anything to warrant major concern here, bill. Let me ask you, ralph, in terms of the leadership of this market. Are you expecting the leadership to continue to be what it has been in the last year . Mean, were looking at the financial etf doing very well today, money moving into banks in a big way. Is that going to be the group that brings us to the next high for this market . Yes. Ive been very positive on the financials, the industrials, health care. I know they have had a good run earlier, or i should say later last year, but, no, the momentum is still with those sectors. Carol rorkts you had been skeptical of this market last time you were with us. You said you were willing to go with the trend which has continued higher here, but for how much longer . Bill, im sure that youre very happy that im back in my contrarian position and im sure you were worried that i jumped on boards with the bulls. I couldnt sleep nights. I thought that might be the case. Lets put it this way. Not a fullon bear, a fuzzy baby cub. A little bit worried in terms of the riskreward tradeoff, the risk of what might not be priced into the market already to drive it higher versus what might be priced in to make it tank. I think theres a huge imbalance there. Right now im in protection mode. If you have benefitted from the strength over the last month or so, i think now is a good time to put in some stop losses if youre sophisticated in omgsz, to put in place a strategy to protect what youve made because i think a correction is not a matter of if but when. Rick santelli, what are you seeing today . Well, you know, i continue to look at that 07 high. 14,164 everybody references and as a technician and ral is a legendary technician, i would be surprise federal we dont give it a go. Ever since the bottom in 09, to me you cant fight the liquidity. What it all means and how that all fits in is another question. Today two things being talked about on the floor. S p selective default of jamaica as they do basically a debt redo. And, of course, the notion that latin american countries are getting very vocal in front of g20. Just think mexico, and us a look at the dollar versussopeso. You can say why, dealing with flows during present times and looking towards the future when its all going to leave like pulling the drain on a sink, and i guess finally while all of this is going on in equities, look at a twoweek chart of treasuries. We for two and a half weeks have remaineded in the six basis point closing raining, and today it doesnt look like its going to break out of that. Yeah, pretty narrow there. Let me ask ralph and carol, have a little dialogue. Where do you differ . Carol, youre expecting this correction. Ralf, you still think this market goes higher here, what are you looking at thats different here . Ralph, you first. I would like to ask carol when shes talking about a correction, is she talking short term . Yes. From a perspective, carol, im really a longTerm Investor, so a 5 or 10 correction, he can, thats a 20 stock going to 19 or 18, on its way to 30, so i i could care less about that correction. Well, i think it depends on your perspective. I personally tend to be a longer Term Investor as well, but there are a lot of people who arent so you have to look at the short and longterm perspective, and frankly with the way the markets have been going, its been very shortterm oriented in terms of the mentality. I think that theres a bigger risk that some unknown quantity, and lord knows we have enough with the currency war potential, with north korea, something thats not being priced in today, something that happens that causes a blip here in the market and someone participated in the strength and benefited would benefit from protecting themselves for that. Im not saying its necessarily long term but in the short term for certain. I disagree. The market is not short term. This move didnt start in january. It started in the middle of november. That was the low, and that was at the height of all the problems we had in the middle east when they were shooting rockets at each other in the gaza. I mean, in the face of bad news, this thing has been climbing now for a couple of months. Ralph, are there areas are there specific stocks or areas that you would like to buy at better levels that perhaps you would use any selloff to double down on . Well, we talked about my love affair with financials and technology and health care, and i say if if carol is right and we get some kind of a pullback, man, id double up again. Good to see you all. Thank you for your thoughts. Always good to see you. See you later. Nasdaq trailing the other averages. Seema modi is here to explain why. Bill, first a story on the nasdaq, speculation that the nasdaq omx was in talks with private equity group carlisle to go private. Sources close to the situation tell cnbc that buyout talks with carlisle have seized for now, and thats perhaps why were seeing shares of the nasdaq omx off of its highs. Speaking of deal chatter, dell in focus. First it was Southeastern Asset Management and now its t. Rowe price, the second largest shareholder voicing opposition to the buyout announcement saying it will not support a dell buyout as put forward and facebook, how quickly sentiment can change. Up 20 on the year, and now up 4 . Bernstein downgraded the stock yesterday. Today btig lowered its rating to sell, writing that desktop ad revenue is set to peak in 2013, and that mobile growth is not enough. Guys, back to you. All right. About 45 minutes sounds throughout the day. A market thats higher, Dow Jones Industrial averages comfortably above 14,000. And the market rallying despite looming spending cuts. Democratic senator Chris Van Hollen has a plan to hold those off and will the gop sign off and wait until you hear why he says were in the mess to begin with. Then we talk to the head of sony america. Huge developments in that group on content. Sony stock on a nice run since november. A lot to get in with sonys ceo about tech right now. Plus, coffee talk. Coffee talk. Burger king is taking on mcdonalds with a new ambitious line of breakfast drinks, but are they trying too hard to be like their bitter rival . Weve got that trade. Its burger king versus mickey ds coming up. How do traders using Technical Analysis streamline their process . At fidelity, we do it by merging two tools into one. Combining your customized charts with leadingedge analysis tools from recognia so you can quickly spot key trends and possible entry and exit points. We like this idea so much that weve applied for a patent. Im colin beck of fidelity investments. Our integrated Technical Analysis is one more innovative reason serious investors are choosing fidelity. Now get 200 free trades when you open an account. Welcome back. Stocks are higher ahead tonights state of the Union Address but how will the market react tomorrow. Josh lipton with that angle. Over to you, josh. The president s state of the Union Tonight probably wont be a big mover for the broad market if history is any guide here. Most of these speeches see less than a 1 move in the stock market the following day, but the president will touch on themes that could really impact different sectors and asset classes. Lpls Jeff Kleintop says hes listening for two themes, automatic spending cuts possibly coming march 1st and energy independence. If the president is open to mitigating defense cuts in exchange for cuts elsewhere, rather than tax increases, that could be a positive for the defense stocks which have pulled back recently as that deadline approaches. Names like general dynamics, Lockheed Martin and raytheon all in the red this year, unless change. Defense spending will be cut by 8 . A second theme, energy independence. The president likely to voice his support for clean energy. Kleintop points out stocks, producers of wind, solar and other clean energy, sources have been volatile around these speeches in recent years, sometimes seeing a big bounce that soon fades. Some of those names were in the green today. First solar enjoying a pop. Its up some 9 so far this year. Investors though unlikely to hear anything on natural gas or coal that could turn around slumping coal stocks. Peabody energy and archcole down 10 and 19 respectively this year. Back to you, guys. All right, josh, thanks very much. Yes, tonight president obama expected to address among many issues the automatic spending cuts scheduled to hit on march 1st. Lets bring in democratic congressman Chris Van Hollen of maryland who is no fan of these cuts. Good to see you, sir. Thanks for joining us. Good to be with you. Whats the alternative to the cuts right now . What would you like to see instead rather than the march 1st cuts taking effect . I would like to achieve the same amount of deficit reduction but instead of deep, meaningful and arbitrary cuts you spread that deficit reduction over a longer period of time so you dont get the drag on economic growth. Our proposal is to replace that 85 billion in sequester with a combination of cuts by getting rid of some of the ag subsidies, direct paints that have no useful purpose, eliminating taxpayer subsidies for big oil companies, and then applying the buffet rule on incomes above 2 million. That would replace the sequester for a year and give us an opportunity to come up with a longterm balanced approach based on tax reform and targeted cuts. Thats all well and good, congressman, but here we are on february 12th. Were just a few weeks away from the march 1st deadline and i dont know if you know but senator mcconnell said a short time ago, told the wires that its pretty clear planned spending cuts will go into effect on march 1st and he has no interest in lastminute negotiations to avoid them. I mean, isnt it doesnt it look more and more like its inevitable that well get the sequester cuts anyway . Well, bill, im worried that it is becoming more inevitable that well trip over that march 1st date where they would begin. I hope we can avoid it. Were going to propose our alternative plan in the house of representatives this week. I dont know if well even get a vote on it. But in the event we go past march 1st and trip into the sequester, i hope people will come to their senses and Work Together to replace the sequester, whether its the proposal we have made or something else. The congressional budget office, the nonpartisan independent group, estimates that allowing the skywester to go into effect for the remainder of this year could cost up to 750,000 jobs, a big drag on the economy, and its no way to deal with our budgets. Its arbitrary and indiscriminate. Whats the answer though, because, i mean, thats where were going, right . House dems want revenue increases and republicans are Standing Firm against it. Somethings got to give. Are you going to budge on anything to avoid the sequestration . Well, maria, as you know, we replaced the first two months of sequestration january and february with a combination of cuts and revenues, and that should be the model going forward. After all, as you know, many of these tax expenditures are spending through the tax code. Theres no reason not to deal with both of these going forward. I was encouraged somewhat by senator mccains comments over the weekend which indicated that he believes that closing tax loopholes can be part of a balanced approach to eliminating, replacing the sequester. I mean, after all, if our republican colleagues are as worried about the defense cuts as they say they are, surely they should be willing to get rid of some of these tax breaks that have outlived their purposes. Like which ones . Which tax breaks would you like to eliminate . Look, theres no reason to have taxpayers continuing to subsidize the big oil and goes industry. I also believe that the carried interest tax break should be eliminated. Now, i know many of your viewers may not like that, but i dont see why a Hedge Fund Manager should be given a special tax break compared to other people, you know, who manage portfolios or other people who are in management positions. Thats been a long time. Were talking about this for a long time. How come nothing has been done about carried interest yet . This has been a conversation for like three years already you know what, now were pressed against the wall. This is the time to do it. Surely thats a smarter way to deal with deficit reduction than allowing these arbitrary acrosstheboard cuts to take place which we know will hurt the economy. Congressman, good to see you. Thanks for joining us. Always good to be with you. Lets get to Brian Sullivan and breaking news on apple. Whats going on there . Another big proxy Advisory Firm coming out in support of apple and against Hedge Fund Manager David Einhorn saying they support apples proposition 2. Remember, basically thats sort of a highly technical thing, and ill whittle it down here, the ability for apple to issue preferred stock with only the approval of shareholders. Last week the biggest proxy firm came out in support of it and now the two biggest are saying that apple is in the right and really saying that David Einhorn, saying just offer preferred stock, pay the shareholders back, sitting on too much cash, is in the wrong. Thats been the drag today on the nasdaq on an otherwise up day. Thanks, brian, very much. Headed towards the close with 35, 40 minutes left with the dow up 52 points. Was up 67, but it would be the first close above 14,000 since february 1st. Amazing. Hey, have you heard this one. Sony pictures spurning netflix to release a new deal with stars. Michael linton is here with why he passed on netflix and the brewing content wars this the industry. Thats all coming up. Thats a fascinating part of what who gets to show what. Also, much worse than we have previously heard. This crippled Carnival Cruise ship called triumph, believe us, when you hear these conditions, no one is winning on that boat right now. 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Since we make radiator valves wouldnt it be better if we just let fedex help us to expand to new markets . Hmm gotta admit thats better than a few likes. I dont have the door code. Whos that . He won a contest online to be ceo for the day. How am i supposed to run a business here without an office . [ male announcer ] fast, reliable deliveries worldwide. Fedex. Welcome back. The content wars are waging on. Movie and entertainment giant sony picked stars, covering films like zero dark thiry and men in black 3, netflix was hoping to win. Why is this the right choice for sony, especially at netflix subscribeser keep growing, 40 million and counting for netflix. For that and more lets go to our own Julia Boorstin out in lovely california at the all Things Digital dive into media conference. Julia . Reporter thanks so much, bill. Im shund by Michael Linton who oversees all of sonys music, movies and tv business. Sony Corporation Sony entertainment, inc. Michael, the stars deal weve been talking about, know that netflix made a play for the movies. How did you end up with stars . Stars has been our partner for many, many years. Done really well with them. They made a terrific offer and decided to keep going with stars. That being said, do a lot of business with netflix. We were part of the house of cards production so were happy to be with them as well. Reporter how is netflix changing your business which general, driving up prices when someone like stars accesses your content . Doing a couple things, doing what you just described which is driving up prices in general, not just in the u. S. But other markets are netflix is present, but also its another buyer, so for things Like Television series that we have on existing Cable Networks and broadcast networks that we didnt have a buyer for in the past or maybe we had only a select number of prior, netflix provides another platform for us. Also the music business and it looks like sonys music label, the business is bottoming. Can you turn the business around and how . I think the music business in general has a very bright future. Doug morris and the group he leads over there have done a fantastic job an i think between all the sharious new services coming on board they are taking maximum advantage of them and its showing good result. Maria bartiromo here in the studio. Let me ask you to talk to us a bit about the business right now. Whats driving your business. A lot of noise in terms of technology and the race to the top in terms of so many new devices. How could you say your business is being driven right now on the content side. I think the primary way that its being driven on the content side is there are many more devices that people can see the various telephone shows or watch the movies and listen to the music and the number of devices or proliferation of devices is really whats driving the revenue side and the profits and the business because there are more platforms and more devices that people are able to watch or listen to the content on. Do you have to have a different Pricing Strategy depending on what were talking about nerms of devices . I mean, youve done these content deals with the traditional distributors out there, but now youve got a whole new host of distributors. How are you doing in terms of keeping prices in check and your expense out of the business, given all of these knew distributors. Well, i think certainly in the move side of the business, and the Television Side of the business, it really depends upon where in the life cycle of the film or the television those new platforms come in and a lot of pricing comes out of where in that life cycle the movies or Television Shows are seen. Typically its after, for example, the dvd window. Mr. Linton, Bill Griffith here. I know youll love all kind of im sure you get all kinds of advice from people on how to run your business. Why not just buy netflix. All the time. Im sure you do. Why not buy netflix or stars or Something Like that . You talk about controlling pricing. Wouldnt that be one way to do that if you control that Distribution Channel to begin with . Well, we dont talk how much about controlling pricing. I think netflix and stars does a great job priding their services perfectly, and for us they are terrific customers and for a business like ours where now a majority business is outside the United States to make such a big bet on Something Like stars that only lives here in the u. S. Wouldnt make a lot of cents. A lot of opportunity though, you could send it overs. Tlert, but in those markets theres a lot of competitors. Theres talk that cbs would be a buyer. Is your studio for sale . The studio is absolutely not for sale. Neither is the music business. You know, thats been confirmed many times from kaz arai who runs the business back in tokyo. A rumor is a rumor but has no basis in fact. Reporter sounds like people are interested in buying it even though its not for sale. That may be. That could be. Reporter Michael Linton, thanks so much for joining us. Thanks for having me. Reporter maria and bill, back over to you. Thanks, julia. Final stretch of trading, the market is higher by 53 points. I think hi them thinking going overseas at the start. Could the president actually spark a Market Correction with tonights state of the Union Address . Ron insana thinks so. Hes here with former white house budget director peter orszag who will go head to head coming up in a moment. And imitation is the highest form of flattery. Burger king has certainly been imitating mcdonalds recently and doing it again by going big into coffee. Can anyone say the muskoka fay . Will there be a new king of coffee . Stay with us. Thats coming up. announcer scottrade knows our clients trade and invest their own way. With scottrades smart text, i can quickly understand my charts, and spend more time trading. Their quick trade bar lets my account follow me online so i can react in realtime. Plus, my local scottrade office is there to help. Because they know i dont trade like everybody. I trade like me. Im with scottrade. announcer scottrade. Voted best Investment Services company. Markets up 57 points just off the highs of the session right now, and we would point out if we close above 14,000, it would be the First Time Since february 1st that that has happened, and the last time we closed above 14,000 it had been five years. Yeah. Since weve been back to that level. Yes, the nasdaq is lagging today. Apple one of the big causes there. Theres dow, up 57 points at 14,029. As president obama gears up for his state of the Union Address just hours from now, our ron insana says that speech could be a catalyst for a market pullback, so what could he say, the president , to trigger such a move, and what does mr. Obamas former budget director think about that notion . Ron insana joins us along with peter orszag, the vice chairman formerly with citigroup. What are you expecting to be the crux of the president s speech tonight . I think hes telegraphed what hes emphasizing, immigration and something on economic growth. What well be looking for is what is the solution here, for example, on the sequester that were starting to, you know, bump up against . What is the proposal . How are we going to get out of this mess . And ron, what do you think he says that could cause rattle the markets a bit . I should preface it, the thing that slips us into a 3 to 5 correction. The president has been making more noises about closing loopholes and raising taxes fort on higher income brackets, something we already went through with respect to the fiscal cliff negotiations, so i think as we move towards the sequester as peter just suggested, the more acrimonious this get and the more the two sides get entrenched around higher taxes on the wealthy or deeper spending cuts own times than either side wants the more likely well have a couple of tense weeks going into the sequester. That along with the executive orders on energy and climate change, something that upsets the whole fracing revolution, that lo could get Business People a little nervous. And the market has rallied all the end into the year. When is the moment when people are just ignoring the sequester and what have you. Is that wise. Were in that indian summer. Enjoy it while it sglasts lasts. Senator mcconnell says the sequester happens march 1st and hes not interested on lastminute negotiations on that issue. Shouldnt that be rattling the markets . Youd be talking about a quarter to half a percent off gdp for the rest of the fiscal year. The problem with the skywester is its all on the spending side and it should be a mix. Its too much too soon, and we should be spreading the fiscal adjustment over time. What about rons point, and hes not alone. The tax situation has already been resolved or at least addressed with the fiscal cliff negotiations of december. Why should we be talking about further tax reform at this point in the context of these spending cuts . Well, i think everyone agrees that there are changes that would be desirable in the tax code and that its not an efficient code. As you cut back on the tax breaks, what do you do with the money . Do you pour it back into revenue neutral tax return or use part of it to off set some of the spending productions. Thats if you could even get to tax reform which is easier said than done. At this point were talking about the reduction of loopholes and further tax increases and peter said it would be too much too soon for the economy. With the payroll tax holiday coming off, anybody making 50,000 is paying 1,000 a more in year as taxes as was expected, but the president s only talking about tax increases to fund revenue reduction, so that to me is a double hit to the economy. I think if were talking about tax reform, if we were talking about Simpson Bowles where theres both entitlement reform and tax reform and getting rid of lop holes that all makes sense in the larger context. Taken piece meal, it could be problematic for the markets short run . What kind of an impact does sequestration have on the economy, in your view. Reporter hypically speaking we see the cuts take place on march 1st. What kind of impact do you think this will have . Something like a quarter or half a percent of dgp. Larger or something next year. For an economy thats just chugging along at 2 growth, taking another 0. 3 off is not what we want to be doing. The problem here is the right approach is a lot of deficit reduction thats pushed out in time, thats focused more on entamts, thats phased in slowly coupled with, if anything, the economy up front. That bar well. Were not doing bun of them. Maybe that hit to gdp is worth it if it means that much more deficit reduction. Howard dean is more of a deficit hawk . This years deficit 800 billion and next years 600 billion. Shortterm phenomenon and theres a report of Health Care Costs down now, and i dont know if its a structural or cyclical spin. Ive been on this point for a while so im glad its getting broader attention. Health care costs are declining. The rate of growth is much more slowly. Its been several years so its harder to write it off as just kind of a fleeting moment, and if it continues, that has a far larger impact on the longterm deficit than anything the guys in washington are going to put aside. Thats why the president s rhetoric on taxes might matter to wall street this time good to see you guys. Thank you, both. Thanks, peter. Thank you, ron. Tune into the state of the union right here on cnbc beginning at 9 00 p. M. Eastern time. Carl kwinquintanilla and john harwood hosting our coverage. The market is up above 14,000 with a gain of 52 point on the dow. Well see if it stays there. 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The david and goliath battle between green lights David Einhorn and apple takes another interesting turn here as today the reason why im coming to you live from San Francisco is we are at the Goldman Sachs technology and internet conference where earlier today tim cook, the ceo of apple, took the stage here to my right and addressed David Einhorn directly saying we are going to thoroughly consider green lights proposal. He also did call it a silly sideshow, however. Now a response from a greenlight spokesperson saying as follows. If apple thinks the lawsuit is a waste of resources, it could simply end the matter by complying with existing law and filing a new proxy that unbundles the proposed changes to the charter so that shareholders could express their views on each matter separately. All of this, of course, comes back to the news of last week that David Einhorn is suing apple, challenging the company to issue preferred stock as waive dealing with the 137 billion cash that is currently sitting on the balance sheet. Apple is trying to do away with something in their proxy proposal. Its proposal number two, which would eliminate their ability to issue preferred stock. So tim cook addresses David Einhorn today and Greenlight Capital this afternoon responds yet again. The ball is now in apples court. If they say anything, you know well bring it to you first. We know you will and the stock sitting there a standout selloff and meantime the coffee wars are heading into foot of food chains. Burger king firing a shot at rival mcdonalds announcing a new line of coffee drinks. Mcdonalds has made big inroads in their breakfast business with a higherend blend of coffee. Does burger king have enough caffeine to challenge mccafe . Lets Start Talking numbers with steve cortes and cnbc contributor and paul hickee. Good to see you both. Thanks for joining us today. Steve, what do you think, mcdonalds or burger king . Im a fan mcdurs here. Regarding burger king the problem isnt cove but the horse meat they have been serving over in the u. S. I want to read about seabiscuit, not eat him and when i look technically at burger king, an uninspired chart. But conversely i think mcdonalds is a very interesting one and compelling one. Mcdonalds in very september and october. Ran up resistance at 94. Two major highs and a significant selloff into the november period. Since that tie, subsequently weve taken out that 2k4r59 94 resistance level and now the pullback low is 94. I believe weve formed a very powerful pivot of technical support. We see this in the markets where technically a former ceiling becomes a floor. As long as it stays above 94, i think it is bullish. What do you think, steve . What are you looking at fundamentally . Looking at both of these names and the ratings that we spoke of, neither looks particularly attractive, an when you think about the two companies, theres a lot of issues here, a lot of competition outside of the coves face. You have other chains such as parera and then the food police going after say salt. Not good for what the company serves. The value menu where mcdonalds has seen success, thats a very lowmargin business and thats when your best area of strength not the best of margins. Tight on type. Thanks for both of your thoughts on mcdonalds versus burger king. See you later. In sort of fiveyear territory. Earlier the dows higher about 45 points. They say breaking is up hard to do, and thats why its a good thing banks are coming up with new ways to bring returns to their shareholders. What does wall street want to hear from the president to the. Well talk to two top money minds on that on the closing bell. Back in a moment. 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