nguyen -- a year away any way. the key to me is i think it is pretty simple the administration can be tough and not drink the kool-aid. i think if we say, all right, you want relief from the sanctions, we want to inspect all your facilities and allow those inspections to take place for five, six, seven months and make sure they're not doing what they did five, six years ago, throw the inspectors out and make sure we have not only a change of words but change of action. >> do you think the president should meet with him? >> i think that's not the appropriate level because if things go wrong, i think the secretary of state should meet with him. if that meeting went well. as rudy says, if you don't give away the store, there's nothing wrong with talking or meeting. >> you would say secretary of state meet with him? >> i think fareed is right. i come from the old school the president walks in when the deal