like a pretty inherent, intrinsic lack of confidence among afghan forces in the state itself. >> we were a major backer of the state and of the security forces. symbolism counts. and the symbol of the u.s. military affecting a complete and final withdrawal was devastating and again, it didn't happen overnight. this demoralization process, if you will, began the first day we sat down with the taliban and excluded the afghan government. >> what happens to, can kabul itself just hold on as, you know, we have seen afghan fragment in the past. obviously i know the central government is reaching out to the warlords trying to get them to kind of join in this fight and if the national army itself is not doing it, are there going