this is called agridolce. it's bitter. if you talk about italy, it is the most interesting aspect of italian cuisine. not just gastronomically but philosophically. it's a philosophical thing. life is too good. i need a little bitterness to remind myself of the internal tragedy of our existence. >> the sweet and sour of the life. >> one final attempt before i go to extract something meaningful on what it means to be sicilian. >> what's wrong with these people in the north? >> people from the south are coming from these greek culture where the philosopher while in the north came through and -- >> that's the harshest, meanest thing anyone can say. oh. >> and figured out the last century, the three best writers