>> anthony: oh, which am i drinking here? the old school cider? >> josh: we actually came across a recipe from 1822 with elderberry and cider. and um, it's a native plant here so, we put a little bit in there to see what it would do and it came out wonderful. >> anthony: you're using only west virginia apples? >> josh: i am only using west virginia apples. >> anthony: that can't be cost-effective. >> josh: it's not. it can and can't be. >> anthony: nobody is talking about money at this table. [ laughter ] >> josh: this is another thing for me. we are often talked about as being this impoverished state. we are rich, i mean, as could be, in food and the things that we make as a culture and as a community. >> mike: you know you look at something as simple as these pole beans. it took a community to save that seed. you know every time we put food on the plate, there's a story about the way that people have always kind of bound together to survive.