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keeping him in the dark. that raises questions of whether he's in an ivory tower, doesn't have a handle on what's going on. so that raises a lot of questions about his leadership, his administration, and i think when you look at what the allies are thinking, they're asking those questions, as well. >> elyse, just a quick follow up here. are there any allies the white house going back to them saying we share intelligence. this is a good thing for everybody. perhaps we've gone too far in listening in on personal cell phone calls but this is to protect all of our allies when it comes to going against these terrorist plots figuring out where that leads to, that this protects everyone? >> well, there is an element of everybody does it, suzanne. but at the same time, when you say everybody does it it, it's like apples and oranges because clearly the united states has surveilance capabilities that far surpass any of the countries that we're talking about. also, yes, the u.s. maintains these surveilance programs are

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