instance. >> what about the notion of redemption? my producer brought this thought up. because i do believe that people get second chances. after he pays out his debt to society, what if this is the moment that turns his lie around? >> we don't even know he wants to be a model. he may get out of jail and say, listen, thanks for all the attention, but i just want to shoot people. >> mel. >> well, you know, another interesting part of this story, michaela and john, is the fact his mother has started a crowd funding, go fund me request, to help raise the $25,000 he needs to get out of jail to post the bond. if this modeling contract were serious, wouldn't you think the agency would be posting that? a felon does need a job so this is better than him shooting people. i suppose if he gets out of jail, this would be a good job for him. >> both of you, thanks so much. mel, always a pleasure to have