of his aides overheard president trump discuss a possible ukraine investigation of the bidens with ambassador gordon sondland. >> but what this call indicates as other testimony has likewise indicated is that instructions are coming from the president on down. are we prepared to say that asking a foreign nation now to intervene in our elections is something that is a perk of the office of the presidency? i don't think we can allow that to be the new normal, acceptable in any way, shape or form. >> out front now, chief national security correspondent, jim sciutto and abby philip and former assistant fbi director and republican state senator of nevada greg bower and ambassador mcildowney and served in the state department for 31 years and has known bitaylor for 25 years and david axelrod, senior adviser to president obama and now host of "the axe files" and