that there were a few emotional moments. one of those there was a woman who went to his hand the microphone during the voir dire process is they're going through the questionnaire. she said and i'm quoting her here. i'm sorry, i thought i could do this i wouldn't want someone who feels this way to judge my case either. but jurors have been very forthright. it seems at least in reading the transcripts, as i've been doing and jeremy's reporting, can you walk us through what that was like? >> well, i'm not allowed to draw their faces so i can't i can't get to the jurors but she was very emotional. tears and tissues and it's too bad. i wish i could have drawn her. yeah. >> do you notice a difference with this trial and other trials? again, you've been doing this for decades. is there anything different in that is i don't think i've ever seen people get so nervous or anxious about actually being a juror on a trial. and why do you think that is? >> i don't know the ex-president is a big deal to people. >> yeah. i think maybe a little bit of star struck. i don't