lasting defeat. >> so is the united states back in the combat business in iraq? ash carter said this week before the senate arms services committee that the u.s. was considering direct action on the ground. i wanted to take you inside the administration's thinking on this important issue. for that, you're about to see an interview i did for our documentary, "long road to hell: america in iraq." i sat down with the deputy secretary of state in august of the state department. in his current role and last ones as deputy national security advisor to obama and national security advisor to biden. so understand iraq in 2015, we have to fully appreciate why the obama administration pulled out in 2011. and that is where blinken begins. >> at the end of the day, the iraqis wanted us out.