going to be able to effectively occupy a country of 40 million people with 200,000 troops. is this going to be a long and bloody guerilla war. and you look right now, the first stilts i've seen, that there are 3500 russian casualties. let's just say that's off by half. you're talking about, what, 5,000 russian casualties in the next three days. that's more than they've seen in any military action in living memory. that's going to start to impact the russian public and drive those protests in moscow and st. petersburg and elsewhere. that's the defeat mechanism for russia. >> and, matthew, i want to ask you about this approach from the ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy. there are indicationsncouraged leave the country. despite the fact he's posting selfie videos on social media that he's going to stay and fight and defend his homeland.