he stuck it out. he's a fairly popular governor right now. andrew cuomo has given no indication that he intends to step down. it's going to be very difficult for president biden to step away from that pretty clear statement he gave to george stephanopoulos. i would expect for him to say at 4:00 that he thinks governor cuomo should step down. i don't think that will have much effect on governor cuomo either. there's a year left in his term. the relevant question is does the new york legislature have the will to impeach him and drag that process out over the next year? we will find out. the legislative leadership is not indicating which way they're going to go. governor cuomo has indicated he's going to fight. >> that's the political track. in terms of the legal track if this does somehow end up in a court of law, what about governor cuomo's defense, which is i do this with everybody, i have a long history of grabbing