know what happened on the several calls that morrison sondland claimed to have had with the president. but it's worth noting ambassadors don't typically have a direct line to the president. and there's a reason for that. even seasoned ambassadors their perspective has to be vetted by the national security counsel and ins grated that way the nsc can present the president with te full picture. we're learning that president trump relied on ambassador sondland who by the way was not confirm bide the senate to work on ukraine, has no background into anti-corruption and fiona hill said he went into his own meetings without getting appropriately briefed. but for some reason president trump prepped with sondland rather than his own experts. this really throws cold-water on the pez are's claim he was focused on the corruption of ukraine and rooting it out. >> hill and vindman both testified and both of them