has a very chilling effect on current whistle-blowers and future whistle-blowers. i think it's unacceptable for these attacks to go forward as they have been. >> evan, quickly, are your sources or anyone telling you that this kind of tone could deter any other potential whistle blowers from coming forward? >> yeah. that's one of the concerns you hear inside the government. why would you stick your neck out if you know something has gone browrong, if you've seen wrongdoing, why stick your neck out if this is what you're going to get? that's one of the concerns from the attack from ron johnson that you are playing, fredricka. not only are they attacking the whistle-blower, they're also attacking the fbi and the cia for even taking a look at things that could be a threat to the united states and international security. >> all right, evan perez, micha michael zeldin, thank you. still ahead as democrats ramp up the impeachment inquiry