earlier and harder than she did. i thought that was coming sooner. i was surprised about that. bottom line for me, she might be the most polished politician in the race. the trouble is, this primary is taking place in a party that doesn't love polished politicians right now. when she's winding up, she gives a lot of politician pab lumbar before he gets into the substance of it. and people aren't into it right now since donald trump came onto the scene. >> what is your sense of how she did? >> she came to the table astute, prepared, and substantive on policy. my fear is that's not necessarily what republican primary voters want right now. she was incredibly effective in spending. she sounded like a candidate from eight to ten years ago, when we did stand with our allies abroad. but she articulated it better than most. and i think the case she needs to continue to make is on day one, i have the experience as a governor and former u.n. ambassador to deal with world