little more gung ho. now i think if it's going to make you happy, come out. if not -- as long as someone's not attacking gay people, i don't care. it's a funny one, you come out because it's going to make you happy, it's going to make your life better. i don't think you have an obligation, i used to think that. i think it's great, you know, football players, we have this great guy in england called ben cohen who is straight, who is championing homophobe yo. i admire people like him, i think we need more people like that. no one's going to listen to us queens talk about equality. >> completely. let me ask you about miley cyrus and justin bieber. two pop superstars at the top of their games and getting adverse headlines and attention trying to make a break from teenage star to adult star.