change. before the show talking about why we have had this revolution in public opinion in such short time. much faster, i think, than the civil rights movement of the 1960s. i think it's confluence of events. i think it's culture and media and the gay advocates coming out so that everyone knows that it's not just gay marriage in the abstract but frank and john down the street and jill and ann by the water cooler. so, that i think all these factors coming together and also i think the fact that marriage is no longer seen as a religious institution -- >> look at hollywood and tv back in the '60s. "guess who's coming to dinner." >> changing racial attitude. >> look at "star trek" michelle nickehols doesn't matter the re of you out there, but played one of the lead characters in the '60s, she is black. martin luther king told her, don't you dare leave that show, you're making a difference. >> i was not expecting "star trek" to be cited.