just heard him saying, the league won't tolerate racism and discrimination and the nfl will deal with it in a very serious way if they find it. what is your reaction? >> i think roger, his hands are tied, honestly, in the situation. if you look at the league office, the hires he has control over. diversity is pretty good. there are plenty of women and black men and former players. and the problem is once you go to the teams, the owners have the power. often we talk about it as if it is an institutional or systemic problem, which we've been calling it that for a long time. and i think that gave the owner cover, but it doesn't seem lying it is systemic or institutional. it feels individual. the opportunity to hire black coaches has been there. it is there every year. there are plenty of black coaches in the pipeline. someone who held the offensive coordinator job at kansas city, a job that was held by two men previous to him, both of those