crowdstrike server. so i think trump actually subscribes to this completely wacko internet conspiracy theory about how the dnc server somehow wound up in ukraine. it doesn't make any sense and it is a convenient talking point for him. but i think the really funny thing is the president of the united states actually believes this. >> it's also frightening too, charlie, it's frightening that republicans are coming on television, and they are -- and everywhere and repeating this bizarre conspiracy theory, which has been debunked. but i want you to listen to what we heard from president trump's acting chief of staff. this was mick mulvaney. this is what he talked about last week. watch this. >> to be clear, what you just described is a quid pro quo. it is funding will not flow unless the investigation into the democratic server happened as well. >> we do -- we do that all the time with foreign policy. and i have news for everybody. get over it. there's going to be political influence in foreign policy.