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Response to your reporting. He said, quote, the New York Times story is factually incorrect. I will not respond on a story thats biased against the department and advancing their own personal agenda but let me be clear about this. Based on my personal dealings with the president , there is no basis to invoke the 25th Amendment. I want to give you a chance to respond to that. I also want to point out when he says there is no basis, hes talking the present tense. Hes not saying, i never thought there was a basis. Yeah. That was my read. I mean im not going to parse rods statement. I think, myself and other news outlets have all now, including cnn, have recorded the basic facts that are now in dispute. The two basic facts are rod raised the idea of wearing a wire and in a second basic fact, in a memo Andrew Mccabe road that Special Counsel has rod raced the idea of the 25th release of the transcripts of the witnesses in the russian investigation. The republicans refused. Mr. Nunes refused and mr. Gowan refused. All of a sudden they wanted to go on fox news. What precipitated this . Was it the manafort guilty plea . Did the lawyers say we want access to this . Because the very next day the president himself issues this injunction he wants classified documents released, a whole different set of classified documents. This looked like a coordinated effort. For those who believe theres a deepseated conspiracy against the president , didnt this kind of fit into that idea . Well, it could fit into a completely different kind of idea, and that is that the president is so unstable that lifetime career Public Servants who have worked in democratic administrations and republican administrations, many of whom are republicans like rod rosenstein, have to contemplate whether the constitution applies when the president is incapacitated. I mean that is alarming. For those that are ready to believe there is a deep state, those kooky conspiracy theories, certainly theyll seize on this as theyll seize on Anything Else, and they may very well be pushed out there thinking its a useful way to defend the president. If rosenstein is fired, what happens then . If rosenstein were to be fired, it would be another clear demonstration of Obstruction Of Justice by the president. In the immediate aftermath, wed have to consider, you know, what does that mean in terms of our system of checks and balances . What is the response of congress . And probably most importantly l there be any republicans who are willing to defend the institutions of our government . Sadly they have been very few in number. I would hope if theres any effort to obstruct the investigation like the firing of Rod Rosenstein, that congress would pass a bill in stating the independent counsel law that would protect bob mueller. Congressman, i appreciate your time. Thank you. Thank you. I want to continue this discussion, how stunning and the facts of it all and where it might lead. Joining us, cnn analyst gloria borger. I know youve heard about Rod Rosensteins job security tonight. . You wouldnt bet on it, but, again, for almost a year weve been talking about Rod Rosensteins job security. The president tweeted about him. He stopped lately. He seems to be focused more on jeff sessions. I know hes very important in the Mueller Investigation. Dont forget, hes the Special Counsels boss. If the Special Counsel says, you know, i want to subpoena the president , hes got go to Rod Rosenstein to get permission to do that. I think the president s attorneys believe they have a decent relationship with Rod Rosenstein. Im sure they would rather he not be fired and create this kind of crisis, particularly right now at the same time as youre going through the Kavanaugh Hearings and the question about what happens with judge kavanaugh, but nobody can predict what donald trump is going to do. Hes going read this story, and hes going to have to decide whether, a, he believes the New York Times, which he doesnt normally believe, and, b, whether he believes a memo written by Andrew Mccabe who he doesnt believe, and if he doesnt believe those two thing, then hes going to be really angry at Rod Rosenstein. He may ask him maybe rosenstein will recuse himself from the investigation, maybe sessions will fire him, or maybe the president will. David, its interesting because this is not the first time weve heard officials talk about the 25th Amendment in the anonymous New York Times oped alleged bibiy a senior official. I think that the conversations about the 25th academy are not big and damaging story. I dont think thats the big story. The story really is was he serious about taking a wire in to wire in and listen secretly and tape the president of the United States . Thats unheard of. There are those, of course, who argue, not the New York Times, but others who have been trying to catch up with the story, that he was being sarcastic. It sounds like he was being sarcastic in many ways. Bringing in a wire to try to capture disarray seems like an odd thing. Disarray seems to be more like an ongoing thing. Its not something you could immediately capture. I think thats right. I sort of assumed the wire was not only to capture the disar y disarray, but would apply to the 25th Amendment issue, that heres what hes like in real li life behind the scenes. But i must tell you if it bears out and he spent a whole month on it he was serious about going in with a wire, then i think its probably one of the dumbest mistakes ive ever seen a Public Servant make, to get into conversations like that. It just invites attacks, and i do think we have to remember that he works at the pleasure of the president. Thats the appointment. And if the president can no longer trust him, hes justified in asking that person to leave. I agree with gloria. I dont think hell do it quickly. I think theyre looking after the midterms. They dont want to upset the kavanaugh business. But just as importantly, they dont want to have this in the middle of the campaign. Carl, is it appropriate to have him talking whether it was jokinging or not about surreptitiously recording the president of the United States . Well, if its a joke, i think it might be appropriate. I think weve got to look at a number of factors here. One is we are in a constitutional crisis. One of those is, for instance, there ought to be committees of congress to which mr. Rosenstein could explain what happened, what he said, and there be a Bipartisan Committee of congress at which some facts could come out in an impartial way and we would learn the full story after the New York Times has broken this huge important piece of reporting. Unfortunately there is no such committee because were in a constitutional crisis where the congress of the United States is totally dysfunctional. On top of that, we have a president of the United States whos contemptuous of the rule of law, that one of the things that mr. Rosenstein, we know has been concerned about for months and months, is that contempt for the rule of law, the president s lie, and now he joins a long list of people in this presidency who fear that the president of the United States is not fit to be the president , is a danger to the national security, does not understand what the proper use and function of the Justice Department is. So all of these things are converging, and theyre converging at the time of a Midterm Election in which the president is going to throw all of this meat to his base and see what can be chewed up to somehow keep a majority in congress. But meanwhile we have the spectacle of little confidence in the president of the United States by those around him, little confidence in the congress of the United States by almost anyone, and the one element of the system thats working, the press, the first amendment, the fake news s of e New York Times as the president would have it has broken this story. Cnn has confirmed elements of it. All of the kritzhe critics, thes doing its job. I want to get to john dean, but we need to take a quick break. Coming up next, the president has just weighed in on this. Used a new word stench when describing the Justice Department. And later, a new deadline for the woman who says Supreme Court nominee Brets Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her. Details tonight. 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But theres a lingering stench, and were going get rid of that too. Reporter so, anderson, no mention of rosenstein by name there, but you have to believe thats a findley bail reference to the times story. There still has been no official formal response from the white house, and well wait to see if he says Anything Else in springfield. Thank you. Were back with gloria allred, carl bernstein, and david gergen. What do you think he means . Its hard to tell. He defines stenches in lots of places. I think the thing with Rod Rosenstein and his leaked behavior, i dont think its a fireable offense. If you look at the sequence of when this happened, this was at the time of the comey firing. They had done a job on him. They lure him into writing a memo and said that made for the pretext for firing comey. He was under a lot of heat as a result of that, and he had a lot of reason to distrust the white house at that point. The other thing is apparently he was present when some people went over there for interviews to the fbi director, and he was appalled at the president s interview techniques. So who knows what really goes on inside that white house. That might be why he was suggesting it. I dont find it outrageous. And ill tell you, its not unprecedent either. I was asked by prosecutors the wear a wire, and i refused to do it. Why did you refuse . Because i think its an unfair situation, the same reason i didnt have the Recording Capability on my telephone, although, a lot of people in the Nixon White House people did. I think its a shady act. Gloria, i think the question right now is anyone safe at the Justice Department . Sessions clearly, i mean, has lost the president s confidence. Im not sure he ever had it since he recused himself. Now with Rod Rosenstein, if the president wants to, he could clean house tonight or the day after the midterms. What about his new director for the fbi, chris wray. He came out and talked about the lingering stench over there. At some Point Chris Wray is going to have to come out and defend his people and defend his department. So i dont think anybody is safe over there. I think its a question of timing. Its very clear sessions is going to be gone, probably after the election. And i think sort of the game right now inside the white house is to control the president and to try and say, look, dont do anything right now because we have this election coming up in 40 odd days and we want to get kavanaugh passed. This is important to your base. Sit tight if you possibly can. We all know with donald trump that may last a couple of days, but we just we just cant predict. You know, hes going to bedminster this weekend. The last time, if i recall, he was at bedminster a while ago, that was when he wrote a letter saying he was going fire jim comey. So who knows whats going to happen. I guess the other question, david, is what impact would Rod Rosenstein have . I think it would be to take action against mueller and what adam schiff talks about is right. It puts pressure on the democrats to try to get republican votes to build a wall to protect the Mueller Investigation. You know, the republicans have said we obviously dont need it. This suggests quite the opposite. The day is coming when you do need it. Let me go back if i might. I want to bring up something. Is the president fit. Thats not a big deal. We talk about it all the time here. What is different is if you begin to say maybe ill take a wire and id like to go over and talk to general kelly, chief of the white house, ill talk to sessions and maybe we can get a group to plot the downfall of the president of the United States, thats a serious matter. I think thats why the story is big. Carl, do you agree with that . That the mention of kelly and sessions . Yeah. Again, i think we need to know more about the context. The times story is a big window onto something and now is the time for more information. But you need to keep the Bigger Picture in mind of mueller. This is all about the Mueller Investigation and the absolute determination of the president of the United States to obstruct it, to demean it, to undermine it, and shut it down. Thats what he has told everyone around him he means to do, and this is his response and its part of it and its incumbent on the United States to make sure it does not happen. It is the other part of the system that is working. We have indictments. We have informations pleaded to. We know that the president s personal lawyer is now trying to tell things to the Special Counsel. The president is in the crosshairs of an investigation and is acting like someone who is trying to obstruct justice and keep the facts from becoming known. Thats what a lot of this is all about. Do you see congress at some point wanting to question rosenstein about what he said or didnt say . I noticed before we went on the air, a number of tweets, one from the House Judiciary Committee asking that there be hearings where rosenstein and everybody in the meeting as well as the documents be brought forward so they can be seen. Anderson, another thing on what would happen if he did fire rosenstein to mueller, the next person the last time i looked, the next person who has a confirmed post in the rankings in the Seniority Rankings of the leadership is the Solicitor General, and thats who would take charge of the investigation at that point. Anderson, heres the important thing to keep in mind about Rod Rosenstein also. Right now theres negotiations going on about the president testifying, and if bob mueller decides that he wants to subpoena the president , he has to go to Rod Rosenstein and seek permission. If Rod Rosenstein isnt there, say the Solicitor General is there, is he more likely to get the permission or not . That factors in as well. Thank you very much. Well have more guests who join us. What about your reputation . Is that small . Owning your own thing is huge. Your partnerships, even bigger. With dell Small Business technology advisors, you get the oneonone partnership to grow your business. Because the only one who decides how big your business can be, is you. The dell vostro 14 laptop with 8th gen intel core processors. Get up to 40 off on select pcs. Call 877buydell today. were going to get rid of that too. Senator santorum, should the president get rid of Rod Rosenstein . Well, look, if what is being reported is true, that he was actually trying to recruit people to or said he was going to recruit people to remove the president and that he offered to wear a wire, again, not in jest or otherwise but actually was serious about wearing a wire, those are pretty good grounds to remove anybody. I mean thats not something thats not a person that you want serving you at any level in government. So if thats the case but i have some real serious doubts about this story. This just doesnt this just doesnt sound right to me. So your doubt is that it was sarcastic or didnt happen . Either. Maybe part of it was sarcasm. Maybe part of it was a faulty memory or a deliberate attempt potentially of someone to stir things up here right before the election and get the president look. You have people in this town who believe they can prod and poke the president to do things, that he will react to thinks. So the idea that maybe someone would put some information out there, true or not true, to get the president to prod the president to Act Irrationally is not beyond the pale. Jeff, what do you think . You know what would be an unbelievable story of donald trump, that he stays up night and reads briefing book. That would be a real shock. This story is just consistent with Everything Else about him. Yes, its an amazing story, but its consistent with other people who talked about the 25th Amendment with ore people who think this president is psychologically unfit. Again, my hats off to the New York Times for yet another great scoop, but this is not like its some bolt from the blue thats uncharacteristic of this president. This is what a lot of people who deal with him think. Although the idea of the fbi wearing a wire to tape the president Justice Department. Justice department, im sorry. But it is it is amazing. I think its worth noting he did not wear a wire, so that suggests, perhaps, it was said in frustration, in hyperbole. But the general idea, especially in may of last year when the firing of james comey was like a thunderbolt. I mean this was something that has never been done in American History since, you know, the laws changed to have a controversial firing of an fbi director who has a tenured term to precisely insulate himself from political pressure, it was a shock. So the fact that rosenstein thought Extreme Measures might be justified seems reasonable to me. Kirsten, senator santorum said this might prod the president to Act Irrationally. There was a tweet also telling the president to fire Rod Rosenstein right away. Theyve been saying this for a long time. They were looking for a smoking gun as a reason to do it. Unfortunately if this story is true, it does give donald trump, i think, the rationale that seems reasonable to most people if he decides to go ahead and get rid of them, even though i think it would be a rationale theyve been looking for for a long time. Again, we dont know 100 . But, again, i agree with jeffrey. Its consistent with other stories weve heard in recent days or recent weeks, whether its Bob Woodwards book or the norm times article. Its even more newsworthy that its attached to a name and such a senior person at the department of justice. But at the same time, i think if anyone heard the Deputy Attorney general was behaving this way, the president would want to fire him. Rod rosenstein put out a news statement. He said, i never pursued or authorized recording the president and any suggestion that i have ever advocated for the removal of the president is absolutely false. Thats the second statement. This one, i guess, clearing up jeff . I guess, you know, what you learn in law school is how to f offuscate and write in impenetrable ways. Its the present tense. Its the present tense. And that revision does not address the present tensish. He may have thought at one point there was reason to invoem the 25th Amendment. That new stamtd suggests he never advocated for the roovl of the president from the office, but the mere fact that the attorney general might discuss it, gee, is the president out of his mind, think that is in and of itself pretty remarkable even if he didnt advocate for it. Jeff, if you were donald trump, would you want Rod Rosenstein working there . No. And i think hes gone. I think the day after the election if not the hour after the polls close both sessions and rosenstein are gone and well have an extraordinary fight over who the replacement is and whether that person can be confirmed because that person or those people will be the people deciding Robert Muellers fate. Senator santorum, if you were still in congress, would you want to get to the bottom of this . No. I dont think its really necessary for congress to get involved in this. Its a matter between the president and his number two man at justice, and listening to that second statement, i thought the first was weak. Im not too sure the second was a whole lot of improvement. Hearing those denials, not really on point as far as i can see is not is not encouraging me as someone who has real serious concerns about the way this investigation has been handled. Its not encouraging to me he didnt contemplate that. He didnt say he contemplated it. He didnt say he said something about a wire. He said he never did anything. So that to me, as jeffrey said, is running a bulletproof statement that doesnt get to the underlying statement. Kirsten, when you hear the president tonight talk getting rid of a lingering stench, do you think hell get rid of rosenstein . It would be surprising if he didnt. It would surprise me he would believe the norm times report when he says Everything Else is a made up lie. If he does it, its because hes been looking for a reason to do it and this gives him a good cover to do Something Like that. Kirsten powers, rick santo m santorum, and jeffrey toobin, thank you. This blew up in his face and the real question is was he ever acting alone. And i dont care what we do just take me with you there are roadside attractions. And then theres our worldfamous onroad attraction. The 2019 glc. Lease the glc300 for just 469 a month at your local mercedesbenz dealer. Mercedesbenz. The best or nothing. Get more value and get more performance. Get more done when you shop kenmore at sears. Now get up to 30 off appliances. Plus free delivery. Visit sears. Com kenmore to see how you can get more from kenmore at sears. Agent beekman was one step ahead of them. Dits stole the lockbox from the wells fargo stagecoach, because he hid his customers gold in a different box. 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Why he did it are key questions which they may ask judge kavanaugh next week. There are new reports from politico he did not do this on his own. The story erupted after a series of tweets which he has since taken down. In them he said professor ford may have mistaken Brett Kavanaugh for a different classmate. Whats more and the reason were staying far away from those tweets, he named the classmate who he suggests may have assaulted professor ford. The Washington Post contacted professor ford. She said, yes, she remembered that person, but, no, hes not the one. She recalled being friendly enough with that person, that she once visited him in the hospital. By this morning he was apologizing for making a, quote, appalling and inexcusable mistake. Since then questions have come up whether this was planned to take the spotlight off someone and put it on someone else. Watch what Judiciary Committee member orrin hatch said on monday. He wasnt at the party, so, clearly somebodys mixed up. I think shes mistaken. I think shes mistaken something, but i dont know. I mean i dont know her. So there he is saying someones mixed up, i think shes mistaken something. The comments got attention but at the time there was no massive significance to them. Fast forward to tuesday when ed waylon and the other lawyers dropped a hint to what was coming. He said a horrific incident similar to the one that accuser alleges may well have occurred. But if so, shes got the wrong guy. Kavanaugh wasnt present, as this and much more will confirm. This morning right on cue fox friends rolled it out to their audience. He looked at what Christine Ford told the Washington Post and figured out, okay, these people were name, these four people, where did they living and looked at what she had said and figured out what house it may have happened at because it was the house closest to the golf course and then realized whose house it was and then looked at the picture of the young man who lived there at the time who was a classmate of mr. Kavanaughs. Put up side by side, they looked a lot alike. He took down the tweets and apologized. Then politico reported an outfit called crc Public Relations sliced him on how to hype the theory. They also reported judge kavanaugh was not aware of what ed was doing on his own behalf. According to the Washington Post kavanaugh and his allies, unspecified allies have privately discussed mounting a defense along waylons tweets, namely whether or not the incident happened but raised doubts whether the attacker was kavanaugh. He tweeted, quote, i have no doubt that if the attack on dr. Ford wassed a because as she says, charges would have immediately been filed with local authorities, by either her or her loving parents. I asked her to bring the files forward so we could figure out date, time, and place. I was appalled by the president s tweet. First of all, we know that allegations of Sexual Assault im not saying thats what happened in this case, but we know that allegations of Sexual Assault are one of the most unreported crimes that exist. So i thought that the president s tweet was completely inappropriate and wrong. Well, that after a remarkable week and day is where things stand tonight. Joining us is cnn Global Affairs reporter and as i said earlier, he was reportedly working with a p. R. Firm. Just for the record, have they advised you on this story at all . Have they given you any talking points or guidance on how to frame this . I saw this the same time as Everyone Else did. I saw it on eds twitter feed and was as surprised as Everyone Else. I think the key thing here is whats going on with this story because weve seen obviously these allegations coming out published by the Washington Post that, frankly, are very thin facts to support them. It would be very helpful for everyone to have the opportunity to hear dr. Ford, and right now were in this back and forktdaforktth negotiation and were learning whether shes willing to take the counteroffer, granting her several requests in order to testify before the committee. I think that would help really clear a lot of this up. Right. I dont think you exactly answered and i want to give you the opportunity. Just for the record, the p. R. Firm that waylon is working with, have they given you any advice on Talking Points or this idea . Thats my p. R. Firm, so when you said you guys are talking about ed waylon, i havent seen it. Does that sound like the right thing to say . Sure. The question is really are we going to have this hearing and sth going to go forward, not some Conspiracy Theory youre interested on. Im sorry. I dont understand what you said. I have a p. R. Person, i know how p. R. Works. Im not clear. Did the p. R. Firm give you the same Talking Points they gave ed waylon look. You know how this works. Im coming on your panel. Great. I know about this, i know about this, and heres what we talked about before, heres what im saying. So they didnt say, you know, theres this alternate theory, heres evidence of it . No, not at all. No, no. Thats okay. Thats ed waylons theory. Okay. Thats not my game here. All right. Im more concerned about this the Judiciary Committee and are we going to get to it where we can actually get some closure on this or at least get to hear some more of the information. They have, as i have said, acceded to as many of her requests as they couldnt they delayed the hearing to wednesday. They said she could have a single camera in the room only. They did agree to an investigation only, which was one of her biggest requests. They have been. Theyve taken testimony from judge kavanaugh, from mark judge, from another man who was allegedly at the party, and theyve reached out to several of the people who were alleged to have been at the party including dr. Fo ford. The democrats ought to be participating that. It should be a bipartisan investiga investigatetory process. Max . What ford wanted with us the fbi. Of course, the fbi should be in involved in this, anderson, as they were with the Clarence Thomas case. Its i am ashamed to call me i have seen crazy things, this is the most crazy and callous i have ever seen, in order to get his friend Brett Kavanaugh confirmed onto the supreme kour, he named another person as a sexual person. A middle school teacher. An innocent person. This is despicable. This is disgusting. Why havent Brett Kavanaugh disavowed this and denounced this. This is nauseating. I say this as as a life long conservative. This is madness led by Conspiracy Theorists donald trump. They dont care what norms they break. They dont care what rules they violate. They dont care what lives they zroichlt all they care about is getting Brett Kavanaugh confirmed to the Supreme Court. One other thing, we need to find out if Brett Kavanaugh was involved in this. Ed whelan is not a random guy off the street. He is a pillar at the washington legal establishment. He is a friend of Brett Kavanaugh. He is confirmed in getting Brett Kavanaugh confirmed. Brett kavanaugh needs to go under oath. Did he know about this smear attack . He needs to withdraw immediately. That would be disqualifying in and of itself. Is it appropriate what whelan did, putting out the name of Somebody Else . Hes a apologized. He should not put the name and picture out as he did. For the same reason im frustrated the democrats leaked dr. Fords allegations. You are leaking this is disgusting what theyre doing. Im saying its all so wrong. There is no comparison about this. The democrats did not leak dr. Fords name. She came on on sunday. Somebody leaked it the democratic congressman and for. They did not leak her name. She came out on sunday. Okay. Someone, it was only the democrats and her that had the story. I am watching a report in the Washington Post that ed whelan knew her name before it was paid public. Thats something that needs to be investigated by the senate Judiciary Committee. We will leave it there. Appreciate it. Coming up, two people took a trip to kenya and joins me to talk about the memories of that trip next. Ill take you there. Take this left. If you listen real hard you can hear the whales. Oop. You hear that . vo our Subaru Outback lets us see the world. Sometimes in ways we never imagined. To say the final episodes of an Thoiantony Bourdain is sweet would be an unstatement. Kamau bell joins me. What was it like working with tony on this . You know it was really, im not saying, it was a crime come truchl i had been watching him for four years on c in n and on the food network and sitting on my girlfriends house and saying howd he do that . When i got here, i got the bonus round. At the emmy, he says, do you want to do something together . I felt i won a contest. The thing that struck me, i never traveled with him. He would force me to eat. We talked about that, enjoying you to seat this. But the thing i always took aafrom watching his shows is they were real journey, you fell its an immersive journey. He talked a lot about the art of tv. He actually showed me a clip of the West Virginia show, how he was working on this segment. He really was trying to get the music to workful he approached it. This was his lifes work. The first time i understand you had actually visited affect . It was my first time at one point he said, where do you want to go . The kenya name is kokuyu. He hadnt been to kenya either. He hasnt been to kenya . That was reaction i have. I thought hadnt you been everywhere nine times . He hasnt been the affect. It was like he took care, he was reacting to me watching it going on. What did you think . Interest for me there was two things, one was i read a lot about africanamericans going to affect and expecting this sort of im home. How that didnt work out. I was tentative about acting like that the more we were over there, its not welcome home the other this sing nairobi is on incredible city. Its a mix of urban, rural. You will be standing like basically the modern coffee shop. Somebody will walk by with a herd of get oats. We went on safari at this urban sa far, everything shifted, lions are Walking Around this, so it was a lot. Its going to be, i know bittersweet is a cliche, to see this and with him being gone, its going p going to be hard to watch. It is hard to watch. Nowhere near as hard as it is for people who had him as a part of their intimate lives some time. Even someone like you, he talked about you. I sort of came into this late

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