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For talking about the eclipse with us. Thank you all for for joining us tonight. Seen a news night with abby phillip starts right now why donald trump is nothing like Nelson Mandela. Thats tonight on these lines good evening. Im abby phillip in new york tonight donald trump comparison that crumbles when confronted with common sense the former president believes he is being persecuted by prosecutors. And for that reason, hes claiming that there are similarities between Nelson Mandelas plight and his own. Trump wrote this on truth, social if this partisan hack wants to put me in the clink for speaking, the open and obvious truth. I will gladly become a modernday Nelson Mandela. Well, for starters, im really not sure anyone has asked that of him, but you might also recall that this is not the first time that trump has made this very comparison. They hound them and they scare them and theyve, but we dont get scared. We dont get scared. Ill tell you what i dont mind being. Nelson mandela, because im doing it for a reason. Trump wants to lay claim to mandelas mantle without actually understanding who mandela was or the reasons why mandela suffered lets start with just the circumstances as they are today. Trump is not a prisoner unless you consider maralago or bedminster or Seven Springs or trump tower, or a pen suite very, very expensive luxury cells mandela spent 27 years in Robben Island alone in an eight by eight cell, he referred to his incarceration as unpleasant, which is a Masterclass In Understatement life there left mandelas eyes damaged. Its why he wore sunglasses and photographers were warned against using Flash Photography around him mandela lived nearly three decades. Theyre serving time for high treason. All for protesting the racist apartheid system. Meanwhile, trump hes facing 88 counts and four separate jurisdictions for trying to steal a president ial election or for trying to buy the silence of Stormy Daniels mandela was released in 1990 and he won the presidency in 1994 he was freed and he freed his nation from Institutionaliz Ed racism meanwhile, donald trump wants to win the white house by stoking Racial Division we are poisoning the blood of our country thats what theyve done. They poison mental institutions and prisons all over the world. Mandela dedicated his life not just to liberation, but also to equality. He closed his trial by reciting this from memory i have fought against white domination. I have fought against black domination. I have cherished the ideal of a democratic and free society in which all persons live together in harmony. One and with equal opportunities. It is an ideal which i hope to live for and to achieve. But if need be, its an ideal for which i am prepared to die now that passage is the core of mandelas legacy as a bridge builder, it is that very thing, that slice of mandelas political persona that stuck most with former president barack obama there are too many liters solidarity with money but do not tolerate those who dont tolerate dissent listen again. Here to donald trump in his own words do you regret not locking her up . And if youre president again will you lock people up . The answers you have no choice because theyre doing a test the point here is, if you look at the crimes, the punishments, the motives, the promises, on how they will treat their persecutors real and perceived. Mandela and trump theyre really is no comparison for more on this. I want to bring in the host of the podcast the right time with romani jones, also with us is cnn political commentator, s. E. Cupp se mandela again. Why, why does he do these things . He does it because he can, hes conditioned is base two believe it, how many compares himself to jesus . Two and you would have think that thought that a very evangelical base would have been appalled and offended by that. But hes conditioned them over the past a state years to actually see that as the case. And trump as victim, as persecuted is a narrative that he has drummed four years and 91 plus indictments. Its all proof to him and his base that they are after him. But this started very simply with him saying and like 2015, 2016, theres a deepstate and theyre coming after us, then it was the media than it was the democrats, than it was the generals, than it was the intelligence community. Anyone who dared look sideways at trump was then corrupt and coming for him he did that all for moments like this. Yeah. So that he can be a victim and equate himself with one of the greatest civil rights leaders this world has ever known. Its absurd, but they by it the jesus part of what hes talking about, it, it does raise the prospect that trump is actually play into a desire among Evangelical Christians to align donald trump with their faith yeah, i want to be careful the Associative Battle Trump Player four dimensional the chest because i think the reason hes talking about Nelson Mandelas because hes actually heard of them, like, i think, like when hes trying to think in his mind like man, who was now for a long time, like this young third trial keeps going. Hell start using him like normally when people do things like this, you ask yourself the question, who is, who does he think he is, who to donald trump thing he is. And in this case, the question is, who exactly does he think Nelson Mandela is . Because i think the most fascinating part of this is imagine a Ronald Reagan spinning around in his grave at the thought that a republican how monday for president would think that comparing himself to Nelson Mandela of all people who Reagan All The Way till the end told us was a very, very scary man would be the person that trump would associate themselves with. He just cant think of anybody else that went to jail for a bad reason that dislike registers with people anymore . I mean, i guess he has a point that i mean, he clearly doesnt know as we just outlined what Nelson Mandela is all about, but is this its not, i mean, its certainly not four dimensional chess, but is this just trump, just reaching for the closest analog as opposed to him trying to actually do something and politically, why dont think its right . Well, i mean, yes, hes trying to do something politically which is appealed to a base and keep them with him. But not be for dimensional chess, but its not checkers either. I think he picked someone that a generation remembers and its a specific generation, its not the generations coming up. Its the generation thats largely voting for him and still, standing by him. And so i think i think you picked him for a reason and i think he really does align himself with this idea of being politically persecuted for doing the right thing. He is convinced himself and his base that it was the right thing to overturn a democratic election, that it was the right thing to pay off Stormy Daniels it was the right thing to defraud new york city. I mean, he really has flipped all of this on its head. And the crazy part is they believe him now, they believe it, or that if its even if its not the right thing, that it doesnt matter that its the point that the other side is so bad that this is all justified. I want to raise something thats a little left field, but its related. This is has to do with robert f. Kennedy jr. There is a person who calls themselves the director of his new york operation basically saying that her number one priority is to keep biden from winning. This is somebody who works for robert f. Kennedy. The quote is, the only way that trump can even have the remote possibility of taking new york is if bobby is on the ballot if its trump vs biden. Biden wins. Biden wins six days, seven days a week with bobby in the mix. Anything can happen i mean, talk about just putting it all out there, saying the quiet part out loud. Is this just a play to help trump . Yeah, were gonna feel like we generally know that the third party people know theyre not going to win right . With the exception of maybe ras row in our lifetime, thats the only time somebody that you really had a realistic possibility. Theres other person could do it, but normally they at least try to masquerade as though theres some larger cause that they are trying to offer thats not even the game that they seem to be playing here with this one and that i find it to be very stunning, right . Hes basically kanye west work, kanye west was in 2020 where you basically figured out they think eight min if we can just chip away a little bit at the margins, we might be able to get something done as the whole purpose of the reason given kinase ran a little but no, its giving, its giving is going to too much credits if the people that were funding get seemed to obviously believed that that was the case, right kennedy is operating though, go into at against a bigger base of people that he seems to be trying to appeal to a certain brand of wacko that i think rides along with what it is that hes doing. Ive just never seeing them tell the world outfront and give the game away like that. Do you really think that they believe that this will actually hurt by them because rfk junior is running around mimicking trump . Yes, because you please stop pretending that he is going to be a biden spoiler. I mean, i hear this from the democrats. I hear this all the time. It is absurd and insane. He is parenting trump talking points. He calls elections not one, but two of them stolen. He is making a play for trump voters with his conspiracy theories. And as vp pick, i mean, all of this is for trump voters. And if your goal is to hurt joe biden, you dont do it by splitting his votes. You do it by splitting the other guys. So this narrative that he is trying to get democratic votes with his name. Absolutely could not be more nakedly after trump. They just not understand his appeal. Im just trying to meaning this person, rita palma, the head of his new york operation. I mean, just she just not understand their rfk junior vote i think she does. I think she does understand it. I think she understands that they are taking from trump. They want the rightwing Conspiracy Theory loving all the elections were stolen. They want this crowd. He has said, democrats didnt, dont get you anymore. Theyve left you behind he doesnt want those voters. He doesnt talk like a man trying to get democrats. Young, disaffected with joe biden. He is more proisrael than Anyone Running ever on the left ever. And that is a huge wedge issue, issue for democrats. Now, theres nothing about rfk that is appealing to the farleft or the moderate left . Long trump stays quiet about him. Once that starts to materialize, bromonium se, thank you very much and stick with us. Well see you later in the show and just in tonight, we are now learning what questions potential jurors will be asked at trumps Hush Money Trial that starts next week. Now, everything from where they get their news to whether or not they have any links to fringe groups. So just listen to some of these examples. Have you ever considered yourself a supporter of q and on proud boys, oath keepers, three percenters, mugler boys, or antigua another question. Do you have feelings about how mr. Trump is being treated in this case . Have you ever attended a rally or Campaign Event for donald trump . Do you currently follow any antitrump group on social media now this comes as an Appeals Court judge just rejected trumps lastminute latest appeal to to change the venue of this trial. Joining me now to discuss all of this is cnn legal analyst, karen friedman, agnifilo, and shes also the former chief assistant District Attorney for the manhattan District Attorneys office. Karen, when you look at some of these questions at the potential jurors are going to be asked. I mean, what do you see . There about what both sides are trying to accomplish with these jury questions. So its clear that both sides submitted questions to the judge saying, can you please ask these questions so its not clear what im looking for, what the other side is looking for, which is very common in Jury Selection, theres certain types of questions that you want to know the answer to be you dont necessarily want the jury to hear that youre asking that so that they dont try to game the system exactly exactly. So theyre just trying to, this is all in an effort to get a fair and impartial jury for this case, for this particular case, this set of facts, this particular defendant. And so theyre all trying to see are there any feelings that you have or thoughts that you have that would cause you to not be able to be fair in this case to both sides obviously, the Biggest Issue and all of these cases is going to be finding the oneperson or whatever its gonna be more than one per person who does not know a lot about this case has not heard a lot about this case, does not have any feelings about it. I mean, how difficult is that going to be . Well, look, everybody comes to every jury trial with certain feelings and certain views and thoughts about issues, et cetera. Nobodys pro crime. But yet you still find people who are, can be fair and impartial and listen to the evidence. And thats what youre looking for. People who dont have an ax to grind or who arent trying to do some other agenda other than evaluate the evidence because the people the prosecution here has to prove their case Beyond A Reasonable Doubt and they have to be able to listen to it even though they might have feelings and opinions about things. So one of the interesting things is that the judge says that he would dismiss a juror who said they cant serve on the trial without really pressing them any further. He wants to expedite this process because hes seen how difficult the Jury Selection can be and howimeintensive it can be. He defse actually wantem to be questioned. I this going to be something that gets that holds up this process . Well, its not going to because what the judge did was he made it so that it will go faster. The defendant in every case in new york has the right to be present for all sidebar for all sidebar conferences. Thats under a case called antimarket. And so in order to have a jury express their private feelings or their private opinions, you dont want them to say it out loud because it contained the rest of the jurors who are sitting there would. Require not only all the lawyers to come up to the bench, it would also require donald trump, his secret service agent. And it was just cause such an issue, it could grind this to a halt. The judge said, lets just streamline it. Anyone who has any of those issues will just excuse them. So that we dont have to go through that if they if they have some issue here. So thats what he decided to do. Well, were a week out. D yoactuly expect us to see this trial srt next monday yes. But i do think trump has a few his staard icks up his sleevehat hs been pulling out in every case and theres still a few mo ves that i think he hasn ite taken advaage of. For example, he could go to the Supreme Urand asked them to stay the case tedays after this case is supposed to start their hearing. The president ial leging president ial immunity whats the rush . Stop the case, foa few weekwhile we hear that case, its already on an exdited hedule. So i think that mig be coming and this morning and trumps statement regarding abortions, he named the Supreme Court justices individually, but just felt like a message that he was talking to them and just feels like hes going to be going to the Supreme Court. Yeah. Thats seems to be the move that they resort to maybe hoping that the court will just step in. And one of these cases and give them a little bit of a hail mary hail mary, saving grace here. Karen friedman, agnifilo. Thank you very much for all of the legal insights on all of this busy couple of weeks ahead for you and the rest of us here. And i had for us on this show many conservatives are livid with donald trump after he revealed his stance on abortion. Ill speak with age Pro Life Leader on that issue. 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And today we looked up and there were some weird things that happened here are some highlights the first totality for this total Solar Eclipse hitting my supply mexico, the partial eclipse has started in kerrville, texas i now pronounce you joined in Holy Matrimony and i was most joking about those people who changed the Solar Eclipse. What are they doing . Now . I understand what theyre doing hey there being a lot more active during this time, just like we saw with zebras and the draft. You can see the ostriches have huddled together there in the distance yeah, i can zona so totality, which is going to be amazing here in Indianapolis Sun Experices together, were at Totality Indianapis because i, mean well leave of all he feeyour mom here, you guys are finally married andhis show in theky how are you feeling, how are you feeling, gary actually, he made me cry. I didnt think id cry i dont even know how capsulated this moment. I have okay put your glasses on get jokes all right and that was me with my little wine making sure she keeps her glasses on. Now, we were all down here with two feet on the ground watching that Solar Eclipse. But just imagine what it was like to watch that from space. My next guest did just that in 2017 aboard the International Space station joining me now is astronaut jack fisher. Jack good to see you just before today. Only 23 people had actually witnessed a total Solar Eclipse from space. And you are one of them. So what was that experience like compared to watching it today from earth, compared to what you saw back in 2017 . Well, thanks for having Me Tonight Abbey in and it was amazing. I you get two you get an experience like that where you get to just see the beauty of the universe all come aligned. And then the shadow just tracing across the united states. But i have to tell you today was cooler. Im im up in Colorado Springs now as part of this space symposium, were a lot of the Industry Leaders in, in commercial and civil and Military Space come together and everybody was outside and just like you saw and all those videos, it was such a uniting force. It just it really fires peoples imagination. And the company i worked for Intuitive Machines just put a little lander or odie on the moon last month. And so everybody was looking at odie, which is totally cool. Thats the future of humanity. Its where were going and it was a really special moment is. So speaking of odie, i mean, you just talked about that lander thats up there on the moon. What data is odie potentially picking up right now as a result of this celestial event occurring you know, odies taken a forever nap so he is not given us any de right now is done. We learned a lot about how to get there and and really set up a thriving economy on the moon. So it really is a future and were excited about our next mission coming later this year. So there were four more american astronauts who joined that exclusive club that you are a part of. They watched the eclipse from the iss. So the interesting thing about this also is that nasa planned their routes so that they could adjust the altitude over the course of months explain to us a little bit more what is the experience like from space . Do you need to wear special glasses . What do you see on earth and what are you seeing in space . You absolutely do need to wear special glasses. I wont say that. We never cheat, but you do need to just like down here sunglasses arent good enough and they do have a special glasses for us. They also have special filters for the cameras so that we can get those great pictures for more bit and it keeps you safe and it allows you to share that experience with the world. All right. Retired colonel astronaut jack fisher. Thanks so much. What a Cool Experience you had thank you, maam. Thanks for having me and up next, some of Donald Trumps biggest supporters are now criticizing him tonight after he says that abortion should now be left to the states could this issue tilt the next election plus, we are just getting some Breaking News just weeks after the rampage at a Performance Hall in russia, the fbi now ill say is an american Isis Sympathizer has been arrested after plotting to shoot up churches standby for that we with jake tapper tomorrow at four and cnn you want to close out . Should i . Normally, id hold but taking the games as smart here right . Feel more competent. Lets dock ratings from jp morgan analysts in the chase app when youve got a decision to make, the answer is jp morgan Wealth Management home . Home ocha focus on no, and home she had warranty. I can protect your covered home systems and appliances like this ac when the repair or replacement yes. Thank you its oh, im not home. 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So you guys really have mangoes in stock . Yup. What about frozen pizza . Here they are. Fresh salmon. Too easy. Coffee . Yup. Tonight uh monday night news dump with giant national consequences. So while you and much of the rest of america were watching that Solar Eclipse today, or maybe you were watching College Basketball earlier. Trump now said as that the states, not the federal government should be the one to decide when its okay for a woman to terminate a pregnancy many states will be different. Many will have a Fferent Number of weeks or someill ha more nservative tn others. And thats at they will be at the end of the day. This is all about the Will Of The People Trump and his campaign might hope the christian conservatives dont notice or dont see all the headlines. But rest assured we noticed. And so did many of the people on the right and they are not so happy antiabortion conservatives like mike pence, his former Vice President , who calls the decision or retreat, that its a slap in the face to the millions of prolife americans who voted for him in 2016 and 2020 now, trumps final for now answer ands this month long seesaw between trying to cater to the voters who want a national ban telling them hes proud. He brought rove crashing All The Way Down and telling the majority of americans who are not interested in the federal government, getting deeply involved in Reproductive Rights that hell stay out of the way hey but thats what we just talked. Band. You did not say yes or no to that what the deal is. I want to know what you want. I want to know what youre gonna do if youre were going to jump in federal legislation that would ban abortion at 15 weeks no. No. I mean, the sanctus willing to sign a fiveweek and sixweek ban to support that. You think that what he did is a terrible thing and a terrible mistake. Now, i happen to be for the exceptions, like Ronald Reagan with the life of the mother rape, incest, you talk five or six weeks joining me now is the president of students for life of america kristen hawkins. Kristen, thanks for staying up for us tonight. I wonder. Do you agree with former Vice President mike pence, the donald trump, just delivered a slap in the face. To the Prolife Movement look, i dont believe this particular statement is the cause of the division between mike pence and donald trump. But i think we are very clear in the Prolife Movement and weve always been that ending abortion is a federal issue that your human rights youre right to exist, not be killed, not end or start depending on state line. But i actually was pleasantly surprised by the presence statement today. I was i was glad to see that he didnt fall in the trap. That democrats wanted him to fall into taking a stand on divisive late term abortion law, which would only prevent four to 6 of abortions in america, yet would have been a fundraising cash cow for joe biden and democrats. Are you talking about virion that is around are you talking about a ban on abortion that would be around 15 or 16 weeks. Is that what youre referring to there . Sure. You in february, the New York Times rumor that President Trump was flirting with the idea of coming out for a 15 or 16 a week Abortion Prevention Act as soon as that happened, my inbox and my Text Messages was flooded by fundraising appeals from democrat thing trump pledged to ban and abortion, which they left out the part that of 15, 16 week Prevention Act would only stop about four, 6 of abortions. And our country but he didnt give them the opportunity today. He said lets have the states have a say, which dobbs Dobbs Decision did say that it is now up to the states, but it also denial eliminate the federal government. So we would say in the Prolife Movement, theres a role for both your, your, i think your interpretation of it is interesting because trump actually said, he thinks this should be left to the states. He did not endorse a federal ban. So are you suggesting that this is not actually going to be a longterm position . Shin for him why thing is very clear like i can count and in americans can count and we know that theres not 60 prolife votes in the senate to pass any prolife legislation that would prevent abortions because democrats had been very clear, they cant name one abortion. They disagree with and so getting any preventing i can act passed the senate is going to be a monumental task, i think right now when were looking at momentum and progress, protect women, children from the predatory abortion history. Were looking at the state, but thats not to say theres not a federal role. I mean, you can look at what joe biden has done tragically yet brilliantly and forcing the federal government to get involved here with a portion, anyone i think it agree with, i should just find a planned parenthood and the abortion what youre what youre talking about, the lack of 60 votes for a federal abortion ban is also because the majority of americans dont support it. But i wonder if you look at the poll, you at least support donald trump, allowing exceptions supported some boats on the kristen, do you at least support what donald trump says, which is that there should be exceptions for rape, incest, and the life of the mother the Prolife Movements been very clear and every prolife law that is passed that isnt acted today in america sadly, too few americans know this there is a explicit exception for protecting the life of a mother when her life is at risk during pregnancy we talk often about that and the Prolife Movement. When there is a tragic case when fetal, maternal separation is needed, we dont even consider that to be an abortion because the intention is to save life, not to be directly ending human life. Weve also been very clear on the Prolife Movement that the circumstances of your conception do not define your worth and do not should not dictate whether or not you get to live or die and so thats been our position. The Prolife Movement thats been our position four of the 50 some years that we saw Roe Versus Wade but like i said, im not exactly an agreement with everything donald trump says on many issues, but i would say today his position that he outlines, i think it was a smart position of saying that states still should be evolved and they should be very much involved protecting women, children from the Abortion Industry and not undercutting a so many of our State Legislators have acted with courage since the Dobbs Decision to pass life at conception chin heartbeat, abortion prevention laws chemical abortion bands, but thats not to say theres not going to be a role for him. And what the Prolife Movement is gonna be requiring the president to do while we wait for those 60 votes. He needs to get into start de one, stopping the proliferation chemical abortion pills, which now has chemically tainted Human Remains hanes entering our waterways with no endocrine disruptors, just a couple a couple of quick things here. One, i just want to clarify. You said that when a womans life is at risk and abortion is required, thats not an abortion. It is actually an abortion. The other thing is you noted that you feel separate. You noted that you want to see things from donald trump, the prolife lee lin are going to demand things of donald trump. You talked about banning medication abortions. What about his running mate . Is it going to be a requirement that Donald Trumps running mate be someone who he was sufficiently antiabortion for the Prolife Movement weve been very clear in oped with town hall that was out yesterday. Actually, i gave a full list of the firemans and our demands to President Trump and what the first on the list was a prolife running mate, a prolife Vice President isnt it prolife Cabinet Secretaries . I mean, theres so much to do when you think about how theyre going to be little pale today, thanks to the biden administration, who prayed in front of a planned parenthood and are facing and 11 year federal prison sentence while squatters are entering homes in new york and their owners for his are being arrested. There is one final thing, kristen, you heard Donald Trumps said today that he supports ivf. You have a different position. You say the Industry Needs more regulation and more change is that i mean, that sounds like code four, more or restrictions that could make ivf something that is out of reach for a lot of families. I mean do you disagree with trump that this should be something that is clearly legal for families who want to have children well i think this is a time for a conversation. I think when the alabama Supreme Court ruling came out knowledges the pain of the families who lost children because of the reckless nature of the ivf clinic. I think that was the start of a conversation. I dont know how much President Trump knows about in Vitro Fertilization or the wild, wild less it happened in the past that you can go into an ivf clinic today, create human beings and tell the ivf clinic to discard those human beings if theyre the wrong sex or if they have the wrong genetic makeup. Thats eugenics. Children like mine who have Cystic Fibrosis are routinely thrown away. An ivf clinics are discarded for Life Ending Research so i will say theres a conversation, but what we do know, our own polling and our institute for prolife advancements, students for life that i put into the field immediately after the alabama Supreme Court ruling, was that the vast majority of americans say they support ivf. But then when you educate them just in 30 seconds about what happens inside of an ivf clinic. We see germany maddock, mine changing results. So i would like to have a personal conversation with him about ivf because i think ultimately when we talked in the Prolife Movement, we want more babies and we want more families, but we need to do that in an ethical way that treats all human beings with dignity and value. And as pope francis says if indefinite dignity, well, its clear that that is actually a position that even many republicans disagree with. Its also a position that the Alabama Legislature disagreed with when they moved shortly after that alabama Supreme Court decision to protect ivf and the ability of families that i understand that question down the Alabama Legislature for making understanding because i was a complete overlap. You very much for joining us on all of that tonight. Kristen hawkins at a colorado journalists, was kicked out of her States Republican Party assembly. And the question is, why well, the party of the Party Chairman of that state thinks that her straight News Reporting is unfair. I will speak with that journalist ahead. And Breaking News, the fbi says that an american Isis Sympathizer was stopped from shooting up churches, well have more on that Breaking News reporting next. Sunday and ninth of space for still mofolo story with anderson cooper, the james Webb Telescope you alone, followed by the two parts when of Space Shuttle columbia, the final flight. 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So evan walk us through this very serious indictment and what it says this man wanted to do yeah, abby, this is a very eyeopening a complaint here by the fbi and according to them, this man, his name is alexander miffed koryo, 18 years old, was arrested over the weekend. What he planned to do according to this commit criminal complaint thats been filed in federal court. Is he planned to attack churches in quarterly in idaho according to the affidavit filed by the fbi, hes been certainly claiming that he had some affinity for isis since 2020 is when he became radicalized and said that he was swearing an oath to support isis. And since then has been talking to someone who he thought was connected to isis. But actually it was someone working for the fbi. 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Thanks for joining us on friday, the day before this happened, you actually covered the republican congressional nomination assemblies. Why do you think that suddenly you were supposed to be banned from this particular day the next day . Abby, i dont know why they didnt want me there on saturday, except that maybe that was the chairmans de to have his Moment In The Sun and he doesnt apparently, like my reporting so you how though i think m reporting has been fair. Well, i tell what it is that you tnk that hes so upset about youve reported on some of the controversies surrounding this is colorado gop chair Dave Williams and his leadership of the pay. But to be fair, many colus Florida Outlethave done the same thing. Theyve reporteon these controrsies two, you also covered democratss well. Did you ever get a clear answer about what exactly was unfair about your reporting . No, i reached out to the event organizer. I tried to ask him what he was talking about he did not respond to me and i know my peers and supervisors at the colorado son reached out to dave, never heard back and i dont exactly know why just me and not others but i have reported on the fact that this is the first time in at least 20 years that the party hasnt had enough money to pay fulltime staff and Dave Williams announced his candidacy for the fifth Congressional District using the party email list and the parties spent about 10,000 on mailers and another 7,000 on postage. To send a mail or at the end of february that attacks one of his potential opponents, geoff crank. And also nikki haley and the local newspaper in Colorado Springs so im not sure why other people have covered some of those things to yeah. Its all i mean that all sounds like Good Journalism to me. I look, we did reach out to the colorado Republican Party and a Dave Williams gave us the statement. He called your quote, a he called you a quote, fake journalists at accuse you of sneaking into the event, even though as we just laid out, you did receive Press Credentials at the door, he also said this, quote, the colorado sound is just an extension of the democratic partys pr efforts. And the only backlash we see is from the fake news media, radical democrats and Establishment Rhinos who hate are conservative base and who always look for opportunities to boot lick the crooked, press or pundits who hate true republicans and President Trump theres a lot in there. What do you make of the language in that statement . I have to say what i really appreciate it us all the republicans whove reached out to me privately and on social media to support me this is an this isnt about me. This is about democracy and there were about 3,000, 4,000 republicans. Theyre on saturday doing work that represents the 900,000 registered republicans in the state and the unaffiliated voters who lean to the Republican Party. And those people deserve to know what the party is doing on their behalf. And thats what i was there for to report on that and it sounds like as tier point its not just democrats and the media coming to your defense. Its other republicans who see this as really beyond the pale. Sandra fish, thanks for joining us tonight. We appreciate you doing that. Thanks for having me, abby thank you so much for