His yearbook and he was among the images there. Take a listen. That photo and the racist and offensive attitudes it represents does not reflect that person i am today or the way that i have conducted myself as a soldier, a doctor, and a public servant. Im deeply sorry. I cannot change the decisions i made, nor can i undo the harm my behavior caused then and today. Well hear from the governor, Governor Northam, in about an hour and a half, which is when hes scheduled to address the cameras, address the public. And of course well bring that to you live as it happens. Meantime, lets start with cnns jessica dean in richmond, virginia. So youre there outside of the governors man shmansion. We know there were protesters. Reporter thats right, protesters were here this morning. Its a little quiet as we get closer to when were expecting to hear that statement from the governor at 2 30. But you know what, i go back to that video, that you just played everyone, where he was talking about my behavior, you know, the thing i did. And today now, the governor coming out and saying i dont believe it was me, it wasnt me. I believe the photos were mixed up, according to the source we have talked to, and were also hearing from his spokesperson. He will not resign today. Let me set the backdrop amongst him coming out or the spokesperson saying hes not going to resign. He has lost the support of the virginia legislative black caucus. Of the Virginia House and senate democrats. Of the Democratic Party of virginia. Also, former Governor Terry mcauliffe under whom Ralph Northam served as Lieutenant Governor has come out and asked him to resign as well. All these groups calling for the governor to resign. Not to mention a host of the 2020 candidates who have come out and called for his resignation as well as Vice President joe biden and others. And i want to take you back also to the original statement put out. It read, earlier today, a website published a photo of me from my 1984 medical School Yearbook in a costume that is clearly racist and offensive. I am deeply sorry for the decision i made to appear in this photo. That was the original apology yesterday. Right now, as we wait to hear from the governor, he is telling people, according to a source, that is not him in the photo. That he believes the photos were mixed up. A lot more to come from virginia as we wait to hear from the governor himself. Jessica dean, thank you so much. Were going to take that live when it happens. Lets talk more about this. Political activist vivian page. Glad you could be with us. Describe for me that what is like for you. You have known this governor since he first ran for office and now to see this image and to hear his words last night and now to hear him apparently tell a colleague thats not a photo of him, what is this like for you . Well, its been difficult for me because ive known ralph since he entered politics in 2006. When he entered politics, it seems like he was going to be certainly a good democrat of how he was going to represent the party and represent the people within the area. So ralph lives not far from me. Ive known him and worked with him all these years. This has been one of the most disappointing things ive ever seen. Ive never quite experienced Something Like this. The other thing i will mention is ralph and i are one year apart in age. Being one year apart in age means i know what i was doing in 1984 and i certainly was not doing that. So do you remember roughly what you were doing in 1984 . I mean, i remember, i was a College Student at that time in 1984 and his first one of his first responses was, you know, that he doesnt really recall which one he could have been in this photograph and 30 years ago, you know, you might remember if you were in that photograph which one you were. So what did you think about that sentiment from him . Well, i thought that was a little bit unusual. Because of course in 1984, choosing photographs to be on a page is something that you would actually have known that you did. Whether or not ralph is in either one of those costumes is not what is relevant to me. Whats relevant to me is he made a choice to include those pictures. And that kind of behaviors not acceptable. Its not acceptable certainly in 2019. But it wasnt acceptable back in 1984 either. I was three years out of college. Ralph was in medical school. I was working. I was contributing to society and doing all those things that people do when theyre 24 years old. Ralph was 25. He should have known better. Yes, so some of the things he has said in the Statement Last night, you know, that photo does not reflect the person i am today. He did even say that photo of me, you know, i cant change the decisions i made. So today hes schedule to speak at 2 30. What are you hoping he will say . Well, my number one thing i want him to say is hes resigning. Ive been very clear that you cant possibly lead the Diverse Party that is the Democratic Party and have this kind of thing in your background. I understand, i do really truly understand forgiveness and i understand people, i really do. I am willing to accept ralph today might not be the person he was back then. But the other part of it is that was unacceptable behavior then. So thats where im hung up. That was unaccessibbeing aalasb septemberable behavior. So to break away from our racist past. Virginia has a long history of not being the most welcoming place to be. Right and he was a medical student at eastern virginia medical school, in medical school to potentially take care of people, all people. Theres a hippocratic oath that would be taken upon completion. So this image being representation of him on his page in that yearbook. You talk about how confusing this is for you as a friend. Earlier, i spoke with the chair of the, you know, virginia legislative black caucus. Mr. Bagby. He described it as being hurtful and painful. And he still referred to him as a friend. But that he thought the right thing to do would be for Governor Northam to step down. If he does not resign what if anything can the governor say to help heal so many who have been pained by this image . Im not sure he can say anything to be perfectly honest. This image is just so offensive. Yes, it certainly has been hurtful to those of us who have worked with ralph who have known ralph for his entire political career. Its been extremely hurtful. But i dont know how he can say anything that is going to mitigate that. The only thing he should say is i apologize to the people of virginia and i resign because i can no longer be a leader. You refer to the governor as ralph, so this is hes in a neighbor, what can i say. This is personal for you, absolutely. Very much so. Vivian page, thank you. Appreciate your thoughts, appreciate it. Thank you for having me. Of course. We will be carrying the g governors comments. Again, theyre scheduled for 2 30. Still ahead, President Trump slams House Speaker nancy pelosi as rigid, im quoting him, as rigid. He hints at a new strategy to get his wall. What is that strategy . And will it work . [clap, clap] hey, jen, which tie says, trustworthy but also fun . Gold down, oil up. Oil down, gold up. This is too busy. We need to make sure people can actually use this stuff. Which one says, hours of free Live Streaming coverage without cable or subscription fees . Aluminum, aluminum . You ready, zack . Oh, were ready. Welcome to the show. Lets make finance make sense. This is the averys trying the hottest new bistro. Erys. Wait. And the hottest taqueria . And the hottest. What are those . Oh, pierogis . And this is the averys wondering if eating out is eating into saving for their first home. 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She doesnt want the wall. Shes costing the country hundreds of billions of dollars. Because whats happening is when you have a porous border and you have drugs pouring in and you have people dying all over the country because of people like nancy pelosi who dont want to give proper Border Security for political reasons, shes doing a Terrible Service to our country. Democrats and republicans have less than two weeks to work out agreement and avert another Government Shutdown, but the president says the talks are, im quoting now, a waste of time. Cnn White House ReporterSarah Westwood is in west palm beach, florida, where the president is spending this weekend at mara l lago. Democrats are responding to trumps attack against pelosi. Thats right, democrats are pushing back on the suggestion from President Trump they dont back any kind of Border Security and theyre slammingth president for leaving the door open to a sce second Government Shutdown later this month when funding runs dry. Accusing trump of twisting democrats position on Border Security. After trump claims pelosi is just playing political games by opposing the wall. Those two leaders have been trading insults. They havent actually met face to face since january 9th. When trump got up and left when talks werent going his way. Thats obviously all going to change on tuesday when trump goes to capitol hill to deliver his state of the union address. Pelosi responded quickly threw a spokesman yesterday to trumps comments to cbs about the spokesman saying in a statement, President Trumps recklessness didnt make us safer, it undermined our security, with 35 days of Border Patrol agents, fbi agents and Homeland Security personnel missing paychecks. Democrats have put forward strong, smart and effective Border Security solutions in the bipartisan Conference Committee. While the president still refuses to take a second shutdown off the table. He goes on to say the president s wild and predictable misrepresentations about democrats and Border Security do not doing make our country safer. Trump has called those negotiations a waste of time. Hes saying he has low expectations that well see any kind of breakthrough from those talks. Congressional democrats did put forward their opening offer on wednesday. It contained billions of dollars for Border Security item like new technology, like beefing up security at ports of entry, but it did not include one single penny for the wall. Not even for repairs to existing fences. Basically inclauuded nothing th President Trump could try to spin as a victory for his administration. With two weeks left in this negotiating period, trump is referring again to his threats to declare a National Emergency. Lets talk further about all this. With me right now, cnn political analyst rachel bad and molly ball. Good to see both of you. Rachel, the president is calling the speaker, you know, bad, very bad for our country and hes just days away from entering her house, so to speak, upon her invitation for the state of the union on tuesday. I mean this does not set the stage very well for, you know, cordial pleasantries, nor does it set the stage for any kind of cordial negotiations. Yes, definitely not going forward, like a lot of democrats are calling the president a sore loser here. The truth is pelosi very much defeated trump on this whole shutdown. He said he was not going to reopen the government until he got his border wall and pelosi held out and time and pressure just bore down on the president and he ended up reopening the government without getting a single dollar for his border wall. Obviously, hes angry with pelosi. We it comes to going forward, this does not bode well about any idea of bipartisan deal on inf infrastructure. Theres been talk about can pelosi and trump do something about infrastructure, lowering Prescription Drug prices. This has soured their relationship and its not going to bode well for them trying to Work Together throughout the year. Its very confusing because it seems as though the image of the ground stop, all the airlines, that kind of interruption during the shutdown is what may have moved the president. But i dont know, in his mind, that was such a long time ago hes forgotten about it . Because hes already now talking about another possible shutdown, you know, if he doesnt get his wall or at least declare a National Emergency and this, despite reportedly Mitch Mcconnell, you know, the Senate Majority leader apparently cautioning him against Something Like that. So is this just bluster perhaps in that latest new cbs interview or are we really seeing hes going to do his own thing, the president . I dont think we know yet honestly, i dont think he knows yet. We see the president thinking out loud, trying to feel out his options, staking out a negotiating position. You dont want to walk into a negotiation like this and say youre willing to give up everything so hes not going to take things off the table before the negotiation has begun. I think its important to remember as rachel said the president did lose this last round. The democrats position was reopen the government, then well talk, then well negotiate. But they never said then well give you the wall. Specifically said even when you reopen the government, were still not giving you the wall. The negotiation, however, really is not between donald trump and nancy pelosi right now. The negotiation is between the members of congress, democrats and republicans who are on that Conference Committee and whatever back channel talks may be going on. Right, and where are they . On, you know, negotiations . We heard it from so many lawmakers who said, you know, lets just figure this out. Republicans and democrats figure this stuff out but of course, you know, what will be needed ultimately is the president s endorsement on it. Thats right. Wouldnt be that hard for them to figure out if they knew the president would go along with what they come up with. You did hear i actually thought there was a softening of the president s position in that cbs interview. Because what you heard him talking about, he said barrier, but he really deemphasized the wall. He talked much more about we need Border Security and so if he if they can talk him off of the specifically the wall concept, if they can convince him he tweeted the other day that the wall was already being built, that we just needed to finish it. He reiterated it yesterday, right . Unclear whether that is its being disputed. Its not new wall. It may be repairs to existing barriers. But yesterday, you know, from that table, you know, with dhs secretary right alongside him, he still was talking about the need for a wall. Thats right. I mean, democrats and republicans would happily get together behind something that wasnt a wall but was some kind of Border Security barrier stuff. Yes. The question is whether the president will endorse it. That was the question the first time around too. I just want to add in there, i feel like the president is starting to realize that he may never get his wall. When he reopened the government, he was sort of as this mind, his advisers were saying give congress a couple weeks to try to negotiate something on the wall, for maybe trying to protect dreamers, those who came here illegally as children, helping them defer their status. Saying no, theyre not interested in daca for a wall tradeoff. His advisers have said you can maybe do this National Emergency declaration to build your wall and as you mentioned just a few moments ago, Mitch Mcconnell apparently went to the white house on tuesday and told the president , hey if you do that, were going to pass potentially a resolution disproving that emergency money. This is the key republican leader in the senate. And this is according to the Washington Post reporting. That is a huge deal. If his partys telling him you cant do that and if you do, were going to turn against you, its looking increasingly like the president might not get his wall at all. Yes, if that sayconversation happened, he wasnt speaking as though that conversation moved him at all, molly. And hes still, you know, professing this whole process to be a waste of time so, you know, is there the public, you know, President Trump to send a signal to his base, but then privately he might be aquaessing . Its certainly possible. Were all trying to be psychologists right now. But look, he has not he hasnt done the emergency declaration. Hes been threatening it for a long time. I think theres an increasing sense he might be bluffing about that. Because it would split his party. There would be a lot of republican blowback. That is not something that he would probably welcome because that would be a real weakening of his status on capitol hill. So the question is, does he decide to go ahead and do it anyway. Nobody knows what is in his mind when it comes to Something Like that. What i think you see mcconnell and the republicans and also to an extent pelosi and the democrats trying to show and tell the president that the best Case Scenario is if he quietly backs away from the wall. Because if he does that, he wont get criticized by democrats. He wont get criticized by republicans. He will take a little bit of guf from his base. But he probably is powerful enough with his base that they will follow him no matter what. Rachel, quiet, is that possible, quietly . I think the key thing to watch here, just remember, the president , when he reopened the government, he only did so because privately he was getting pressure from Mitch Mcconnell and a bunch of senate republicans. Even though hes out there, you know, looking tough and trying to look like he can declare an emergency to build his wall, the fact that republicans are saying privately dont do this, that really matters. We just dont know how big is that resistance. How many people have talked to him. And i think this is something theyre really watching and the reason hes leaving that possibility open is because maybe he thinks he can convince them and its okay. But really these private expressions of disapproval by republicans, they matter and theyre significant. All fascinating. Rachel bade, molly, pleasure, thank you so much. 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There is no place for racism in our government, among our leaders. It really just was so disturbing. Reporter and so there you have it, kristirsten gillibrand joining a growing list of politicians saying Governor Northam should resign. When we first asked her about this issue last night, she said she had not yet seen the photos. At that moment, she was calling for the governor to apologize. Later in the night she sent out a tweet after seeing the pictures and said he should resign. Her first on camera comments on the topic. Shes answered a lot of questions from voters in the stop shes made here in the granite state. The first state to hold a primary of course next year. No ones brought up this Governor Northam issue. Instead, theyve been talking about immigrant rights, lgbt issues, criminal justice reform, a long list. But this is clearly the topic on the minds of a lot of folks in and around d. C. And virginia. Part of Kirsten Gillibrands message here is the same message weve heard in iowa. She first ran in a 21 republican district so shes talked about her ability to work across the aisle, to get legislation passed, working with democrats and republicans, finding common ground. Were hearing her stress that issue. She just wrapped up here, where she visit aed a boutique, bougha dress that was on sale, then met with people at a bakery. There she was asked about ingranti immigrants rights. A lot of stops here as she introduces herself to voters in the allimportant first in the nation primary state. One of the first to throw her hat into the ring for 2020. Athena jones, thank you so much. Still ahead, the shocking rise in meeasles in this countr due in large part to parents voluntarily not vaccinating their children. Its absolute confidence in 30,000 precision parts. Or it isnt. Its inspected by mercedesbenz factorytrained technicians. Or it isnt. 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Hes joining me now from tacoma. Secretary weissman, good to see you. You said you think this outbreak is going to get even worse. Why . Right. Well, thanks, fredricka, for having us on. Theres been so many public exsposh ushs to the folks who have measles we just expect this is going to grow. Measles is a highly infectious contagious disease and folks can be infection before they realize it. Infection four days before a rash and four days after. Weve had people out in Public Places like shopping centers, schools and churches who have, you know, put others at risk, without knowing it. So we expect this is going to grow. Oh, my goodness, so the state of emergency that you have in effect in Washington State because of this outbreak, you know, how does that help officials either contain the spread of the disease or is that the goal, to try to contain it or is it more awareness . Well, really, we are trying to contain this. The absolute best way people can do that, number one, is to get vaccinated. We want that to happen. We ask the governor to declare a state of emergency because we knew we were going to be in this for the long haul. Weve been in this three weeks now. We expect this to go a number of weeks if not months more. Our staff working on this need a break. By declaring state of emergency, were able to tap into resources from other states. Public Health Resources and bring them in. Right now we have five folks from north dakota who are relieving some of our staff. And we expect to ask for more along the way. So you all know the source of this outbreak, how did all this get started . You know, like most cases of measles, if you dont have it in your community, its related to travel. Either somebody from your Community Whos unvaccinated and goes somewhere where theres an outbreak and brings it back or someone who traveled into your area. Thats really how we think this started. Its grown very quickly as you said. And so are there any families that are particularly, you know, adamant against getting further treatment or even, you know, vaccinations after having not had some of their children vaccinated because thats also part of the root of the problem, unvax fa unvaccinated people who have been exposed and so, you know, they contract it . Youre right. Best way to protect our kids is to get vaccinated. We have a safe effective vaccine. If you get your two dose, its 97 effective in preventing this. Thats what we want folks to do. We know sometimes parents are concerned about vaccines. If they are, we want them to talk to their health care provider. Go in with your health care questions and get thosens ans and have that conversation. Secretary weissman, thank you so much. Thank you. Really appreciate everybody out there whos working so hard to control this. Absolutely. All the best there in Washington State. Of course other states heavily being affected by this meeasle outbreak. Well be right back. Your favorite restaurants now it doesnt matter dash. Where you are. It doesnt matter what youre hungry for. It doesnt even matter how many you are. Restaurants come to you. Delicious at your door. Download doordash. First order, 1 delivery fee. Just one day into the super bowl kickoff and one of the biggest controversies surrounds a quarterback not playing in the big game. In fact, Colin Kaepernick hasnt even taken a snap in the nfl since the end of the 2016 season. Attorneys for kaepernick are now suing the nfl. They claim the former qb is being blackballed by the nfl teams after he led a movement to kneel during the National Anthem to protest Police Violence and misconduct. Nfl commissioner Roger Goodell denies the nfl is colluding to keep him out of the league. Goodell says kaepernick is not in the nfl because no team thought he could help them. I think if a team decides that Colin Kaepernick or any other player can help their team win, thats what theyll do. They want to win and they make those decisions individually in the best interests of their club. Avery freeman, civil rights attorney and law professor and Richard Herman criminal defense attorney and law professor with me now. Good to see you both. Richard, you first, do you buy goodells argument that if nfl teams thought kaepernick could, you know, play, help them win, then he would be in the nfl right now. When it comes time to the super bowl, thats the time when the commissioner has to do these press conferences and deal with some of the issues including the Biggest Issue that the saints got robbed, but other than that let that one go and were going to go forever on that. Were going to go forever on that. Listen there is a collusion thats an interesting word, collusion lawsuit by kaepernick against the nfl claiming that, you know, basically all the teams, the 32 teams, theres only three black owners, all the teams have blackballed him. They wont even give him a workout, fred. You said he hasnt stepped on the field since 16. These teams havent given him a workout. Look at the redskins hire washed up mark sanchez, they bypass kaepernick . Its not going to fly. They did a Public Opinion poll to determine the adverse impact on the nfl if kaepernick is hired by the team. Thats exhibit a in the lawsuit. Goodells statement is so disingenuous. Kaepernick has a real chance to win. Are you telling me in the United States of america we cannot protest not a chance. Cant protest that . Its wrong. Kaepernicks going to win. Attorneys also have to prove this collusion, that there is a conspiracy to key hep him. Does that mean transcripts of phone calls or texts or, you know, something in writing that says there was this concerted effort to keep him out as punishment . Does it have to be like that in order to win a case that youre making . Fredricka, doesnt have to be in writing. Mark geragos went on the either and said it was a violation of first amendment. First amendment deals with restriction on government. We have to lose that claim. Secondly if theres a race claim, as richard seems to be saying, then theres a process. You file your charge its a protest. Youre allowed to protest in this country. The bottom line is that if its racist, theres a remedy. He hasnt used it. Let me tell you something, i dont defend these cases but number one, if im an owner and theres a distraction because of this, im not bringing him in. Number two, i have a legal right to say i dont believe in that particular spin. I think that all 32 teams taking a knee is wrong. All 32 teams take the same position . Its nothing to do with the first amendment. This was geragos. Do we still have the sound . This is kaepernicks attorney mike geragos and how he sees the way forward. I think the whole thing is basically a ruse. It was done and the collusion actually was the nfl cowtouing to the president. Its clear. The evidence will show that. They dont admit the collusion because of what the consequence is. If they admit the collusion, the collective bargaining agreement, which is extremely ownereneroust evaporates. Its with a wink and a nod. There isnt anybody whos got a wouldnt say this is collusion activity. Does that tell you anything more about how either difficult or look, fred, any time someone says a slam dunk, raise your eyebrows because there arent a lot of slam dunks out there. All you need to do is look at the conduct of the nfl and the way theyve treated kaepernick. If youre telling me the mere gesture of a black player taking his knee during a National Anthem to protest, to protest Police Violence and racial inequality, thats the purpose of it. Whatever people are drumming up in their mind about the military and disrespect and all, thats not what its about. Thats what its about. Thats what hes protesting. Whats the claim . The claim is hes been blackballed and no one will hire him. And they havent. Lets be clear. You have to show that of the 32, at least two are getting together and saying, you know what, i really believe that Donald Trumps objection to taking the knee should bar us. There is no evidence. Hes a distraction hes 64, 220, and hasnt had one workout. Wont geragos team say when the president involved himself, it took it to another level and that that in some way did pressure nfl team owners or at least influenced them against giving kaepernick a shot . Thats the theory, fredericka. Thats the theory. If geragos can prove that, fine. But right now hes spinning it in the court of Public Opinion. When he gets to a court of law, you know what, im saympathetic to the issue but theres no legal basis to the claim. Unfortunately theres no basis. Thats just not true. If the nfl owners have gotten together and determined that based on kaepernicks conduct theyre not going to hire him, they havent even given him one workout, come on, man. This is basic. Youre trying to connect the dots. Thats evidence thats required and you dont have it. Thats how you build a case, you get evidence and you get to a result. Thats good evidence. There has to be you know, whatever the goal is, right, there has to be a vision. If he were to win, will right. Part of the reward or settlement be the nfl paying for all of his lost wages . Yeah. All his team . If he wins, thats right. Thats right. And it could be punitive damages. Richards right, and theres evidence and back into the game on the team . Its not going to force an owner to put him on the field, fredericka. It will never happen. There may be damages. But there is no way a federal judge is going to order kaepernick back on the field. Never gonna happen. The fact that this lawsuit is pending hurts goodell when he opens his mouth. You can see the redskins hire sanchez, and kaepernick is 64, 220, a mobile quarterback. He wasnt the greatest quarterback. But you know what, he could help a lot of teams in the nfl. Nobodys giving him a workout. This is a viable case. It really is. Richard, avery, thank you so much, always good to see you. And hear you. Well be right back. Truecar is great for finding new cars. Youre smart, you already knew that. But its also great for finding the perfect used car. Youll see what a fair price is and you can connect with a truecar certified dealer. Now youre even smarter. This is truecar. Ensure max protein. 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The best known visible function of the speaker is to chair in the chamber, chair the prime ministers questions. In that capacity, im a referee. Dont tell me what the procedures of this house are. If the speaker is a person that will be cowed or intimidated by a letter sent by way of complaint, that person isnt fit to be speakerer. Reporter speaker since 2009, how has he learned to control hundreds of lawmakers . Sometimes you do have to speak loudly, theres no point in saying, would you mind awfully, after due reflection, thinking about stopping speaking . If somebody is going on too long you have to interrupt and say, order, order reporter a job fraught with the difficulties of the day. Were grappling with the biggest difficulty facing us, brexit. No resolution of the matter has been obtained. It is a concern. It isnt something that the speaker can determine. Reporter all six centuries of speakers have faced their own challenges including mortal danger. Do you feel that weight of history when you conduct your daily duties . The truth is that it was a very perilous enterprise to stand for speaker before the democratic age came upon us. The historians here will know that some seven speakers lost their heads for championing the commons against the executives. That does enable me to view the woes and challenges which conflict and confront the house of commons, and which conflict and confront me. Im not likely to lose my head. Reporter cnn, london. Hello again and thank you so much for being with me this saturday. Im fredericka whitfield. Any moment now well hear from virginias democratic governor, Ralph Northam, about the controversy thats erupted over the last 24 hours. Northam says he has no plans to resign and now says he believes its not him in that racist photo in his medical School Yearbook. Thats a big flip from last night, when he confirmed that he was in the photo, just hadnt made the distinction of which image he was. 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