To hold on to the ability to offend and be offended. Mmhmm. You cant be protected in this life from what people think about you or what they want to say about you, funny or not. Right. So, you know, i take a shot at you, and people laugh. That happens a lot in bullying situations too. Doesnt make it okay. Bullies arent comedians. I say let the market and let the people decide. I think were both in the same place on this because if you dont like it, dont watch snl, right . I dont know if he should be listen, nbc made the decision. Personally, i think that there is a bigger lesson in it for him to stay in the spotlight of an snl and to try to deal with what he said and for him to realize that just sitting around like frat guys and saying racist things on a podcast no longer is was never funny, and no longer applies to the world right now. Agreed. Andrew yang, running for president obviously but i agree with andrew yang as well, who says america is about redemption. He said he wanted to give him a Second Chance to show we can forgive people. Were unduly punitive and vindictive about people making statements we find offensive. And he thought it was in a little bit of a gray area. That he was a comedian that was learning rather than someone who was bigoted. And if you listened to but if you do, and i went back and i listened to some of his routines, and i actually do agree with that. I didnt think he was bigoted. I just think he was naive. His shtick is not being a bigot. On purpose. Right. Thats not his act is what im saying. They would have never hired him. Its not on purpose, but because of perhaps his background and what people think is funny, and maybe the people who listen to him and his clientele or listeners, because they think that kind of humor is funny, he thought it was okay. And so because he has a routine where he talks about he said, i lived in, you know he called it a trash whatever, his neighborhood. And during the 2016 election, he moved to philadelphia, and he talks about living in philadelphia and living in new york and then all of a sudden being woke and he talks about the whole trump thing and whatever. He talks about, i didnt know i was fat until i moved to a place where, you know, people are all thin, and they whatever. So i think he thought in his environment that it was actually funny. And then hes not. So i think yang actually is on to something when hes hes a growing comedian. Yes. Again, is that an excuse for what he said about, you know, asian people, Chinese People . I dont think so. And i think that perhaps firing him is i dont know if its i dont believe its the right thing. I think he should stay in that environment and take the scrutiny. But i understand that nbcs point of view because he represents the company, and he represents a brand. Snl has been around for a long time. It is, but its comedy. And comedy is more than just funny. In this culture, it tests limits. Right. It pushes at sacred cows. It makes us laugh at ourselves sometimes. It makes us uncomfortable. It bothers us. We have a legacy, a history of being offensive in this culture. Sometimes its funny. Sometimes its just pushing what the normative values of a society that values freedom is all about. When i said its got to be funny, and it has to make you think, theres nothing about what he said in that podcast that was funny. Right. But i dont like that its funny because what if he said even worse things but he found a way to do it that was really funny . When people say it has to be funny, they just dont mean like ha ha. That means it makes you think about something, right . You know, its an allencompassing term. Its not just funny. I believe its all fair game. Say what you want to say. If people dont like it, get ready for the condemnation. You have the right to speak in this society, and you have the right to be judged for what you say. Agreed. Keep it pure. I hate the whole cancel culture. I hate going back and listen, think about this. Think about if Richard Pryor or lenny bruce or even eddie murphy were coming up now. Do you remember the you know what that they would say . A lot of racist stuff, a lot of homophobic stuff. They pushed the envelopes. Lenny bruce got arrested for some of the things. You think all in the family would be on today . Exactly. So the whole you think the jeffersons would be do you think they would let sherman hemzly do George Jefferson the way he did it then . You think they would let George Jefferson say nword please on television now . Or when chevy chase and Richard Pryor pushed the limits on snl by that whole nword sketch that they did, that wouldnt be allowed on television right now. And something is wrong with that because those were learning moments, teachable moments. Who are we . What happens when were tested . How do we feel about it . How do we respond . What do we embrais . What do we reject . I think everyone is a little too sensitive, and i think going back in the past for every little thing someone did, nobody would have a job. Nobody. Because everyone says stupid things. Everyone does something thats boneheaded now and then. So i think we have to be forgiving, and i agree with andrew yang. You may not like it. There are many people i know im going to tick off the twitter crowd. Im going to tick off a lot of africanamericans who are going to say, people always get away with the racist things and there are a bunch of white guys like him and can be just as funny or funnier than him. Okay. Fine. But they didnt get the job on snl. So i know were over, producers. Were having conversations. Hold on. Well get through it. Cancel culture. Yeah. They want to cancel me. They want to cancel you right now. But i think we got to be a little bit more forgiving. I think we have to allow people the leeway to talk and have conversations. If were going to come together instead of pushing each other apart. Yes. As i always say, be more curious about why this person did it than judgmental. Amen, amen, i say. Its part of a culture of decency. I know people will say, no it isnt. He was being indecent. No. But it gives people the chance to have this conversation. He was being offensive. Those words were offensive. There was no question he was being offensive, and i think he was probably trying to be offensive. But the point is now we get to talk about it. We get to test whats okay and what isnt. I got to cancel you know its out in the open. I got to cancel you right now before im canceled. Sometimes people deserve it. Im one of them. Oh, and happy birthday tomorrow. Oh, thank you, my brother. Happy birthday, mrs. Cuomo. 52 years old. Looking great. I thought she was like 51. Anyways well done. Ill see you later. This is cnn tonight. Im don lemon. And the president who just last night tweeted out what sounds like an ominous warning about being locked and loaded that was a quote locked and loaded, just waiting to hear from saudi arabia about who they believe was behind saturdays drone attacks on saudi oil fields. Well, he sounded pretty different today. Watch this. Can we clarify, mr. President . So you said you think iran is responsible for the attack. Do you think i didnt say that. Why do you say that . I said we think we know who it was, but i didnt say anybody. But certainly it would look most like it was iran, but i did not say it the way you said. Youre going to find out in great detail in the very near future. We have the exact locations of just about everything. Youre going to find out at the right time, but its too early to tell you that now. Too early to tell you that now . Sure changed his tune there. Then theres what the president said about the idea of meeting with iran without preconditions. Any chance youll meet with the iranians without preconditions . Well, you know, there were always conditions because the conditions, if you look at it, the sanctions are not going to be taken off. So if the sanctions thats a condition. Thats why the press misreported it. There is no hear my voice. There is no misreporting at all. The president now claiming he doesnt want to meet with iran with no preconditions when that is exactly what he said that hed do and exactly what members of his administration said hed do over and over again. Theyve been saying it for more than a year. I do believe that they will probably end up wanting to meet, and im ready to meet anytime they want to. No preconditions, no. They want to meet, ill meet. Anytime they want. Anytime they want. Its good for the country, good for them, good for us, and good for the world. No preconditions. If they want to meet, ill meet. You want to talk good, otherwise you can have a bad economy. No preconditions . Not as far as im concerned. No preconditions. The president of the United States has made it clear were prepared to talk to iran without preconditions. The president has made clear hes happy to take a meeting with no preconditions. The president s made clear, hes prepared to meet with no preconditions. And if youre wondering why this president seems eager to jump to saudi arabias defense, hes making it pretty clear. Today he did. Its about the economy. Its about jobs with 2020 looming, of course. That was an attack on saudi arabia, and that wasnt an attack on us. But we would certainly help them. Theyve been a great ally. They spend 400 billion in our country over the last number of years. 400 billion. Thats a million and a half jobs. Changing his tune again. This is the same donald trump who tweeted in 2014 and i quote saudi arabia should fight their own wars, which they wont, or pay us an absolute fortune to protect them and their great wealth. Remember, arsenio used to go, things that make you go hmm. What could possibly be the difference between then and now . Oh, right. In 2014, barack obama was the president , and donald trump was totally opposed to the idea of defending saudi arabia. Now, trump is doing exactly what he said then this country shouldnt do. Part of, you know, lets call it what it is now. This president s obsession with his predecessor, the former president barack obama im talking about. On his way to his Campaign Rally just tonight, he didnt address a question from cnns Boris Sanchez about president obamas book deal. Barack obamas book deal, sir. President trump, Barack Obamas book deal, sir, why is it problematic . Ill see you on the plane. But he sure had a lot to say about the former president earlier, tweeting this. Look at the obama book deal or the ridiculous netflix deal. Why does he care about that . And later, just two words Obama Netflix . Its not hard to figure out what this is all about. Donald trump is the first reality tv president. He made his name on the National Stage as a caricature of a billionaire businessman on the apprentice. A caricature of a billionaire businessman on the apprentice. Caricature. We know he spends much of his day in socalled executive time watching cable tv, cable news and tweeting about it. So if theres anything thats going to get under this president s skin, it is the former president , barack obama, and his netflix deal. And speaking of deals, the man who claims that he wrote the art of the deal even though we know he used a ghostwriter, is not going to be happy about barack obama and Michelle Obamas book deals netting them a combined advance of well over 60 million. Despite this president s repeated demands for an investigation of the obamas book and tv deals, demands he may be making to distract from questions about exactly who is staying at his hotels and resorts and how much he is making as a result, theres clearly no comparison. Barack obama is now a private citizen, not the president of the United States. Hes free to make any kind of deal he wants. And why did the obamas get those huge deals . I mean i cant believe im even asking this question. You know the answer. Theres nothing nefarious about it. Its just how many people want to read their books and watch their tv shows. A lot of them. But this is not a new obsession for this president. He also tweeted this about barack obama this morning, quoting the New York Times about all the judges he put on the bench outstripping the former president. He said this about this just last week. President obama gave me a beautiful birthday present when he gave me 138 judges that werent approved, and frankly how do you consider that being a great president when you hand to the opposition 138 slots of federal judges, including Appellate Court judges and one Supreme Court judge . Yep. Actually tried to blame his predecessor for leaving vacancies on the bench when, lets remember, it was Mitch Mcconnell who refused even to consider president Barack ObamasSupreme Court nomination of merrick garland, insisting on waiting until after the election. Lets remember donald trump launched his political career with years of repeated racist birther attacks on president obama. And lets remember, because President Trump probably hasnt forgotten, this moment, at the 2011 white house correspondents dinner. No one is happier, no one is prouder to put this birth certificate matter to rest than the donald. And thats because he can finally get back to focusing on the issues that matter, like did we fake the moon landing. [ laughter ] what really happened in roswell . And where are biggie and tupac . [ applause ] wow. President s with a sense of humor. The good old days. But heres the thing. The president actually does a whole lot of things that he criticized his predecessor for. Remember all the many, many times he slammed barack obama for playing golf . Obama, it was reported today, played 250 rounds of golf. Everythings executive order because he doesnt have enough time because hes playing so much golf. Obama ought to get off the golf course and get down there. Im going to be working for you. Im not going to have time to go play golf. He played more golf last year than tiger woods. This guy plays more golf than people on the pga tour. I love golf. I think its one of the greats, but i dont have time. But if i were in the white house, i dont think id ever seen turnberry again. I dont think id ever see doral again. Im not going to be playing much golf, believe me. If i win this, im not going to be playing much golf. Do i even need to go through the list of the many, many times that he he said he wouldnt be playing golf as president , right . But so far he has spent 231 days at his own golf clubs, including this weekend when he played at the Trump National golf club in virginia. So, yeah, it looks like President Trump just cannot quit barack obama. I wish i knew how to quit you. He does the very thing that he criticizes his predecessor for. Guess what . President s should relax. They shouldnt be hypocritical when other president s did the same thing that theyre doing. The president tweets, locked and loaded, and then he dials it back. Is it fire and fury part two . And is it irresponsible of this president . Im going to discuss that with former governor of ohio john kasich. Hes next. Lets be honest, insurance can feel a little outdated. The paperwork. The calling for everything. The searching for id cards. Its like youre stuck in the 90s. Thats why esurance makes it simple with an app that has everything you need because thats how we live nowadays. Rad. Your id card is on a bodacious tiny future tv. 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I first want to play something the president said just moments ago at a rally in new mexico. Here it is. America is respected again like it hasnt been for a long time. And i can tell you because i meet so many of the leaders and their president s and their kings and their queens and their prime ministers and their everything, dictators every once in a while. Every once in a while, you get a rogue dictator. Okay. So its interesting that i wonder whats going on because hes putting kings and queens and prime ministers and dictators all together as if theyre equal. Are dictators just fine if they dont go rogue . No, of course not, don. And let me tell you this. The next president , if its not donald trump, is going to have an enormous amount of work to do to repair the relationship that we have with our friends, our allies, with an enormous amount of work. You bring about iran, and everybody wants to talk about where we are now. Remember, don, our european allies begged him not to drop this deal, that they were interested in pressuring iran in a unified way to stop developing Ballistic Missile technology and to stop all their funding these groups in the region, which would be hamas and hezbollah and other people. And he said, i dont care, and he walked away. And now we you know, now were talking, well, maybe the french, they want to offer a line of credit. Maybe we should go along with that. Maybe well have a discussion without preconditions. Oh, but wait a minute. I never said that. This started all the way back when we walked out of that deal. And earlier in your monologue, you said something very interesting, something i cant figure out. Why is he angry at barack obama . Donald trumps president. I mean i was never angry at anybody else that had the job that i then got. I dont get that. And if that anger is what drove us to walk away from this iran agreement, thats a tragedy. Big, big mistake. A couple things. Look, i do figure it out. One, its very glaring that hes jealous. Two, it plays well for his base, right . He makes barack obama a foe, right, the socalled boogeyman. And, three, barack obama has class. Money doesnt buy class. Its that simple, because barack obama but why is he jealous . Why is he jealous . Why is he jealous of him . Yeah, i dont understand it. Because barack obama is smarter and more well liked than him. Barack obama is someone who made his own way from nothing. Barack obama wasnt given, you know, millions of dollars from his father. So broarack obama is authentic. Hes a classy man. Listen, lets move on. Its bizarre to me. Intense moments like this on the world stage now, americans and our allies want a clear message and a steady hand. Are we getting that from this president right now . No, of course not. He just fired bolton. How many . We have four or five National Security advisers . And then he says this is the other thing he said the other day. He says, listen, we dont have to worry about who i pick because i make all the decisions myself. When youre talking about complicated Foreign Policy and ive been involved in it. I served on the committee that was related to it for 18 years. You make the final decision, but you have to have good advisers around you. You know, theres actually a scriptural thing that says a wise man has many counselors. I think its in proverbs. If the only wise man you have is yourself, which means you have no counselors, it means your thinking is not going to be what it ought to be. So, you know, i dont understand it. Weve never seen anybody operate this way. We didnt see clinton operate that way, obama operate that way, bush, the other bush, reagan. We never saw anything like this, ever, including jfk. But you dont expect a president to operate the same way. You expect them to have a certain at least a modicum of class or respect or at least respect for the office theyre serving in in which theyre serving, i should say. Don, i had a call from a historian tonight. I wont say who it was. And he said many of the fundamentals that we believe in in this country today are being violated character and honesty and truth and responsibility, personal responsibility, not dividing, not belittling. I mean there has always been that certain set of mores. In that vein, when the president tweeted Something Like locked and loaded and then dials it back, does it hurt the credibility and go into what youre saying right now . Hey, don, if you were going to make just a business deal with somebody and they told you one thing one hour and another thing another hour and were not talking about a simple business deal. Were talking about the calculations of people who have, like, lots of weapons, and they can inflict damage. And you dont want to confuse people. You want to be clear. At one point, if they cant trust you and they dont believe youre going to keep your word and they dont believe youre going to be consistent, how can they work with you . Of course this is really a problem. And at some point were going to pay the price for this. I hope not, but i believe at some point we will pay a price for this kind of activity. How does it make you feel that hes the person that has his finger on the button . Well, hes the president , and hes got hes got some people around. Look, im not going to tell you hes sitting there thinking hes going to go blow up the world. What im saying is i think theres very little consistency. I think theres a lack of depth among his advisers. I think he doesnt speak clearly. I think that he has separated us from our allies, which is one of our greatest strengths. All those things lead to instability, and instability does not lead to a good place. It doesnt. And then look at the activity around north korea. North korea continues to move ahead and develop weapons that are very dangerous, and they just he just sort of dismisses it. This is a very serious matter. Iran, north korea, the trade war with china all of it done alone, by himself with his own instincts. It doesnt work. Thats it, john kasich. Thank you. Were out of time. Ill see you next time. Thanks, don lemon. President trump sending mixed messages about the saudi oil attacks, and tonight congresswoman ilhan omar has some harsh words for his administration. What shes saying tonight. Thats next. I get it all the time. Have you lost weight . Of course i have ever since i started renting from national. Because national lets me lose the wait at the counter. And choose any car in the aisle. And i dont wait when i return, thanks to drop go. At national, i can lose the wait. And keep it off. Looking good, patrick. I know. vo go national. Go like a pro. Wits the sleeps number 360 smart bed. Can it help me fall asleep faster . 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Congresswoman ilhan omar was on earlier tonight with erin and talking about the news that iran may be behind the saudi oil attacks. Heres what she said. Watch this. I think we need to make sure that the American People understand that this administration that lies about weather maps or crowd sizes cannot be trusted to give us the full information we need to be able to make a decision whether we should be going to war or not with iran. Is she right . Absolutely, don. I mean how can you possibly trust anything that you hear from a president who has lied at least 12,000 times since coming into office . Is it that many now . Its actually, i think, above 12,000 by this point. As congresswoman omar says rightly, just about a week ago they were lying about the weather. They were falsifying information about a hurricane, so how can you trust them about something that could lead us into a war with iran . I mean they have a credibility gap the size of the grand canyon, and its coming back to haunt them because this is precisely the kind of time where you need to be able to believe what a president says or what a secretary of state says, and you just cant do it with these guys. You cant do it. The president s tweet on sunday said that the u. S. Is locked and loaded, but today he appeared more cautious. Here it is. I dont want war with anybody. Well, we have a lot of options, but im not looking at options right now. We want to find definitively who did this. Were dealing with saudi arabia. Were dealing with the crown prince and so many other of your neighbors, and were all talking about it together. Well see what happens. Why the shift in tone . Thats a great question. I think which is probably better left to psychologists. I mean trump does this all the time, don. You know that. He just veers between one extreme to another. Hes bellicose one day, pacifistic the next. It doesnt make any sense. And as president , you want to be able to send a consistent message this is what we expect from our allies. This is the kind of behavior that will lead us to go to war with our enemies. And right now, trump is so inconsistent and incoherent, nobody can figure the guy out. That makes for a very dangerous situation in a very volatile region of the world. Well, in that same tweet, he also says im going to quote here. He says waiting to hear from the kingdom as to who they believe was the cause of this attack and under what terms we would proceed. So hes leaving it to the saudis to determine what we do with our military . No. I remember, don, when president obama was in office, and he bowed to the king of saudi arabia as a gesture of respect. And, you know, the right wing media went nuts. Oh, you know, hes subservient to the king of saudi arabia. What would they be saying now about a democratic president who was saying he is waiting for the saudis to tell him whether the United States will go to war or not . I mean that is offensive. We have to look out for our own National Security, and the broader issue here, don, is that i really think we have gotten into this mess because donald trump has contracted out our security in the middle east to israel and saudi arabia. He has let them make the decisions for us, and now hes continuing to do that. Hes continuing the very mistake that has gotten us into this mess in the first place. Read his column in the Washington Post today. Its called the saudi oil attacks are signs of trumps middle east fiasco by the great max boot. Thank you, max. Thanks for having me on. Well be right back. Yeah, t. Hmm. How did you make the dip so rich and creamy . Oh its a philadelphia family recipe. Can i see it . No. Philadelphia dips. So good, youll take all the credit. President trump saying that former president Barack Obamas postpresidency book and tv deals should be investigated. He doesnt give a reason, but its part of a pattern from this president , never missing a chance to mention his predecessor. Theyve looked into everything that weve done. They could look into the book deal that president obama made. You saw the poll came out that im above obama. So russia outsmarted president obama. Now, nobody looks at obama getting 60 million for a book. Thats okay even though nobody in history ever got that much money for a book. When i came in under the obama administration, north korea was a disaster. He doesnt have a birth certificate. Now, he may have one, but theres something on that birth maybe religion. Maybe it says hes a muslim. And the deal that president obama made was a horrible deal. President obama gave us a beautiful gift. He gave us 138 judges that he wasnt able to get in or didnt pick anybody or couldnt get them approved. Why is this president so fixated on the former president . Lets discuss now. Tara setmayer is here, michael dantonio, the author of the truth about trump, and a kons consequential president. Thank you both. Michael good evening by the way. Whether it is north korea, federal judges, a racist birther lie about the former president not being born here, thats the one that got him into the political scene. It seems like this president has an obsession with the former president obama. Whats going on . It seems like hes stuck, doesnt it . This is actually another instance of the president lying. They did a poll and said im more popular that obama. Its actually the opposite. Pew did a poll. Obama was number one . He was number one. Wow. So this is what bothers him. I think the president sees a fairly resilient, popular president , betterlooking than trump, fitter than trump. This is all stuff that he voters with favorable opinion of president obama, 60 . Right. Thats higher than trumps Approval Rating right now. Its higher than its ever been. Its now below 40, so this is absurd. Tara, lets ask the question that everyone at home is saying. Its because hes black. How much of this fixation is over obama . Im not saying that, but i know people are saying it. If you look on social media, thats what theyre saying. Its because hes the first black president. Maybe he just in the 60 million book deal, maybe he just knows the art of the deal really, and its not just a slogan for him. But go on. He does not know the art of the deal. First of all, he didnt even write that book. And what deals has i mean obama knows the art of the deal. Oh, obama, yeah. Definitely not donald trump. You think its because hes the first black president . Maybe. I mean weve already established that donald trump is a bigot. We already know that he looks down on ethnic minorities just based on his career, the way he speaks about people of color. Its clear that he doesnt not see he doesnt have the same level of respect. I think thats just obvious. But thats not the i dont think thats the only reason. Maybe thats part of it, but also, you know, hes just incredibly insecure. He is one of the most thinskinned, insecure men in the most powerful position in the world ive ever seen. And this manic obsession, its jealousy. Its envy. He just cant stand that someone is adored more than he is. And Something Else about his obsession with president obama which i find very strange, it shows the double standard of his ability to tell lies. He just lies about president obama, whether it was about him putting a spy into his campaign or whether it was about, you know, obama couldnt get was going to put us into war with north korea. Like he lies about all kinds of things. He blamed the airconditioning problems in the white house on obama for god sakes. I mean this is like a saturday night live skit, but its sad. And like, you know, trump supporters, they dont care if he lies about obama. But if critics of trump, you know, point out his lies, oh, its fake news. I mean its a very fascinating, sad, and pathetic person that we have in the white house. Im wondering, michael, why Barack Obamas, the former president s book deals, netflix deals, why they should be investigated. He made these deals after he left office. Whats wrong with that . Well, part of whats wrong is that president obama never had a scandal. So you have a completely scandalsoaked administration in Donald Trumps administration, and you have, in obama, you know, there were investigations of people in the obama administration. There never was a conviction for any crime, and there never really was a scandal that got any momentum because there wasnt any there there. And there were a lot of made up scandals from the right. There were a couple of skarnls, like the irs and fast and furious, things like that. Comparatively, tara. But lets just be fair. There were some things, but, no, not compared to whats happening now. The other thing is that obama was a very profound man. Trump is a very profane man. These are polar opposites. One man denigrates women. The other marries the woman he loves and stays married to her and continues to love her. The difference between these people is more than black and white. Its everything. Its the essence of their humanity, and trump knows that people see it. The last thing i want to say is the netflix deal. Obama may win an emmy, and trump has been resentful about emmys. Hes never won an emmy . He never has. Uhoh. Maybe obama will be an egot because of his whole netflix deal. Thats true, though. Thats a good point by michael because trump has always been bitter about not winning an emmy for the apprentice. Money cant buy you class. Google that song. Well be right back. Lets be honest, you need insurance. But its not really something you want to buy. Its not sexy. 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Obviously its in their hands and they made the decision. Hes in the forgiving mood. Snl was it right to fire him . Or has the cancel culture gone too far. Is it the same thing . Dean, thank you so much. We have a delay. Hes in atlanta. The president ial hopeful you saw him. He didnt want gill lis fired. You used to work at snl production staff. You say he shouldnt have been fired. How should it have been handled . To me, to be clear, first of all i dont know how he got hired. Theres a thipg called google. Use it. Google people youll hire. His pod cast from last year. Yank yangs point is not whether or not he should be fired. Its the idea if we say anything wrong in society. For one comment people want you fired. Ostracized from society. Is that helpful . Opposed to encourage people to evolve for the better. It was one comment seen as antiasian. And lgbtq comments and learn today that two philadelphia comedy clubs stopped using him because of his racist stuff. They could have found that out and avoided this situation. The question is, are we overreacting as a society when anyone says anything thats offensive. At times duo that. Its appropriate sometimes other times its too far. Lets put the the comments we wont put them up. He said very disparaging things and used lt word for Chinese People. Making fun in an accent. Hes made homo phobic comments. Neither who i believe is gay. And on and on. As you said, this was just last year. And snl admitted the vetting process could have been better. There will be people at home. Are you calling people out when they say antimuslim things but this person shouldnt be fired . He did aantimuslim stuff. For me the question was, were adults. We know when someone is being playful or hateful. I dont know the young man. Yangs point is he would sit down. Lets talk to him. Lets find out if hes a bigot or someone who can be reached. Thats my question. This guy today apparently met with snl. Whatever conversation was not enough for them. My old friends to want to work with them on the 17th floor. These comments he said would have made his life uncomfortable over there. That fired him. But lets take a step back sometimes. I had this conversation earlier with chris. Im on board with what youre saying. People will be upset. I agree this cancel culture i hate it. Its like just the a few people who are the loudest voices mostly on social media. Every instance has to be judged on its merits and shouldnt be one blanket thing, lets fire everybody. Exactly. Well be right back. Jill jill has entresto, and a na Heart Failure pill that helped keep people alive and out of the hospital. Dont take entresto if pregnant; it can cause harm or death to an unborn baby. Dont take entresto with an ace inhibitor or aliskiren or if youve had angioedema with an ace or arb. The most serious side effects are angioedema, low blood pressure, kidney problems, or high blood potassium. 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