Omarosa is a good person. As the only africanamerican woman in this white house, i have seen things that made me uncomfortable. We have a diverse team in the white house. They said we believe in diversity. If thats the case, where in the hell are the black people . The Trump Administration supports the fccs effort to roll back regulations. A disastrous decision. We have to do everything we can to defeat this thing. This is new day with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. All right. Welcome to our viewers in the United States and around the world. This is your new day. It is friday, december 15th, 6 00 here in new york. Here is our starting line. The final tax bill will be presented by the republicans today. But there is a snag. Senator marco rubio of florida says hell vote against it unless negotiators make the Child Tax Credit more generous. President trump seems to think he is bluffing. Either way the 11th hour demand threatens the slim majority to get the 1. 5 trillion tax bill passed. The question becomes will President Trump deliver on his promise of a giant tax cut for everyone for christmas . One of the architects of the plan in the house, speaker paul ryan, said is said to be doing a lot of soul searching about his career. A source tells cnn he could leave after the midterms next year if the tax plan passes. Ryan and trump both deny the report. Meanwhile, the way you use the internet is about to change. Providers hrft ability to slow down or even block websites and charge more for faster speed. This controversial decision meeting legal challenges. We will explain what it means for you. The omarosa saga gets more depar. The departure of President Trumps assistant is raising questions why taxpayers are still paying her salary and she is threatening to tell all about her west wing experience. And the lack of diversity inside the Trump White House. Joe johns is live at the white house. Joe reporter good morning, alisyn. President trump and the administration continue to express hope that the house and senate can get the tax bill to the president s desk by christmas. The final language being crafted and unveiled on capitol hill today. But there is a potential for holdout votes, including senator marco rubio, and some other senators who have been harshly critical of donald trump in the past. Hes been a great guy, very supportive. I think senator rubio will be there. Reporter President Trump confident that senator marco rubio will get on board with the republican tax plan despite his declaration that he will vote against the bill unless negotiators expand the Child Tax Credit, a measure he has been pushing alongside senator mike lee. I remain surprised that there is not more consensus to support the reality that we need to do more to help working people in this country. Rubio possiblying his republican colleagues thursday tweeting tax negotiators didnt have much trouble finding a what to lower the top tax bracket and start the Corporate Tax cut a year ago. 11 59 on the clock and really the pins out to be down. Reporter rubios demand raising additional questions about how republicans will pay for the bill which cannot add more than 1. 5 trillion to the federal deficit of the next 10 years. If republicans want to pass the measure want to pass without the support of democrats. With a narrow majority in the senate, republicans can only afford to lose two votes and still pass the bill along party lines. The impact on the deficit prompting republican senator bob corker to vote against the original bill. Corker telling cnn thursday he has the same concerns hes had in the past but declined to say how he will vote on the updated legislation. Two other wild cards. Senator con mccain and thad cochran who have been away with health issues. The senator is being treated at Walter Reed Hospital for normal side effects of his ongoing cancer therapy. Sources inside describe the 81yearold war hero increasingly frail. Senator cochran has had a number of Health Problems this year. He had an outpatient procedure to address a nonmelanoma lesion on his nose. But he is doing srwell and available now if needed. The tax push unfolding as one of the biggest proponents paul ryan dismisses rumors that he is leaving congress after the 2018 midterm elections. Youre not quitting any time soon . Im not. Reporter some of his Close Friends saying the speaker has been doing soul searching about his political future. The president did speak to the speak er not too long ago ad made sure the speaker knew very clearly and in no Uncertain Terms that if that was true he was very unhappy with it. Reporter they head out to quantico, virginia to address the graduating class there. He is expected to spend the weekend at camp david. Chris and alisyn. Associate editor of real clear politics ab stoddard and the daily beast john avlon. Senator marco rubio said only 1,100 of the tax credit is refundable. If marco rubio is breaking, that is significant. Is this a deal breaker or a late period negotiation . It is a small enough complaint it seems remediable. Bob corkers is hard tore fix because thats baked in the cake. A. B. , are they going to pass this bill . Yes, they are. Im much more concerned about the Health Problems of senator mccain and cochran. They will find awe way to meet rubio a third of the way and give him a reason to vote yes. He will not be the republican who sinks this package. There is much more peril with people who cant make it physically to the floor to vote. In that case they would have to delay it to a later time. Likely a few days after christmas. Theres a lot of drama around this. But somewhat i know theyre going to make this happen. Senator john mccains health is obviously at issue. People are keeping a close eye and watch on it. It seems as though things are dicey at the moment for when he will be able to return. We should offer our prayers and respect to that family. What a great public servant. Hopefully he will come back and be able to cast a vote is. All of these factors matter. You have to come vote in person. If mccain cant make it. And if comoran, from mississippi, cant make it, those two votes just dont go into the tabulation, right . Yeah. So then you have a wash of needing all the democrats. You cant have any other defections. Then you need pence to come back. Thats why the math is interesting. It is is math at the end of the day. But you need everyone in the chamber. Any senator can hold this up. Do you find it curious at all, a. B. , that nobody has stood up and banged on the table about whose cuts are temporary and whose are permanent . They sweep it aside and say, whoa, whoa, whoa, its about the budgetary rule. In order to get a simple majority, they have to expire at a certain time. It doesnt say for who. The individual tax cuts are temporary. Thats why people get a bite in the behind in the layer stages of this bill. 22, 24, 27. Then you start getting into a situation where people dont get a tax cut. They get awe tax increase. Why is nobody pounding on the table about that . Republicans are really trying to skip of the negative polling theyre seeing on this and forge ahead and get this passed. Getting something accomplished by christmas is way more important right now than what is in it. It has never been an approach from a holistic viewpoint. It has been a game of whackamole. It is a patchwork of things. That is the opinion of tax policy experts who have seen this come together way too quickly on a deadline. So youre going to end up with a bill that, you know, when posed a question about the deadlines my favorite line for republicans is what we heard before, some other congress will definitely extend them. It will be no problem. And the deficit spending that these tax produce are going to be magically remedies this year, 2018 before midterm elections sayeth the republican relationship. Welfare reform that basically President Trump campaigned against in 2016. I remember when george w. Bush said you should balance the budgets on the back of the poor. Wow, you are old. Bob corker has been vocal. He doesnt like this deficit addition. If marco rubio doesnt want to be the person on whom this falls, bob corker could be, right . Yeah. What senators wants to be the one that killed the tax bill. They want it done by christmas. They want to show a win on the board. The focus is on on getting it done, not getting it done right. Pwo corker could say im the last fiscal conservative. This bill doesnt do that. With paul ryan and speculation about him leaving, it makes a little bit of sense, a. B. , just beyond the reporting. Ryan says hes not thinking about leaving. President trump said he doesnt believe that report. The reason it makes sense is because he used to be this guy who fought the good fight. Im going to do the right thing. I dont care if nobody likes it. All of a sudden hes lost his voice. Ive covered paul ryan for years. He used to be considered a radical fiscal hawk. He is the one that designed the road map for basically to balance the budget. It involves steep medicare reform cuts that the party was terrified of embracing but really did. He didnt want to be speaker. I dont think he needs to seven his soul at all. He put in his time. He did the best he could for his conference. This is a mess of a party. It is very divided. It is going to lose seats in the midterm election. Perhaps its majority. And it makes perfect sense to me that he has decided to move on. I dont know that he leaves congress, but it makes sense that he decided to leave the peek issership. Reluctant leader. This come as a surprise to you, john . There certainly is a lot of talk about this. John boehner left. Let alone dealing with President Trump. This tax bill they are about to pass may be a chemical the box accomplishment but it is counter to all of his rhetoric about fiscal discipline. Its got to be tough. If you are a conviction person, to do Something Like this that is what you have argued for years with the kids and the metaphors about your children and what youre doing for them. And now not only do you participate in it, but you say nothing, thats a lot to swallow. Your time at the gavel, your responsibility. No pushing it off on the president. John, a. B. , thank you very much. Secretary of state Rex Tillerson breaking with the president again. This time its on north korea, or at least it seems that way. Its very hard to figure out where the message is consistent and where it isnt. But it does raise a question, is Rex Tillerson on his waugh out . And we asked a group of trump voters whether they regret voting for the president and how theyre feeling today. They had some very interesting answers. Thats ahead on new day. Sumatra reserve. Lets go to sumatra. The coffee here is amazing. Because the volcanic soil is amazing. So we give farmers like win more plants. To grow more delicious coffee. Which helps provide for wins family. All, for a smoother tasting cup of coffee. Green mountain coffee roasters. Give a little bit give a little bit. Hello. Give a little bit. Of your love to me oh, haha. Theres so much that we need to share so send a smile and show that you care ill give a little bit of my love to you are sure youre wrapping that correctly . Oh, well, it doesnt matter how you wrap it. 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Ask your doctor about entresto and help make tomorrow possible. All right. In just hours, secretary of state Rex Tillerson is going to address the u. N. Security council on north korea. This comes at an interesting time. Tillerson saying we have to sit down with pyongyang, no preconditions. And the white house now questioning how tillerson is going to be able to do this job long term, saying theyre not on the same page. Lets bring back john avlon and a. B. Stoddard. How many hands are on rexs back pushing him towards the door . There is a divestiture issue that is leaving tillerson in his seat. It is is ativan teenage kwrous for him to leave blond. So he continues to say he is doing just fine. He often describes it as a very difficult job. Hes happy to keep on with this job. He has to stay for financial reasons. Which is why he wanted to stay a year. He didnt want to be booted out december 2017. So when he gets to this year mark in january, i can pretty much im betting my house that tillerson will not be secretary of state in february. That is a short tenure. Like alexander haig. Is that relevant at all to him . I think it is very clear he was left alone to do his job. He didnt have to answer to reporters. He didnt have to answer to a west wing of a Trump White House and Jared Kushner being de facto secretary of state. Hes fed up. Theyre fed up with him. It is a disservice to us. Around the world, every head of government, adversary or ally knows this administration does not speak in one voice. This administration cant lose an opportunity to send Rex Tillerson under the bus. It sends a signal to our allies and adversaries around the world. Theres chaos that comes from the administration. Its not just Rex Tillersons fault. Morale. Key positions remain open. The chaos is coming from the west wing. I would never condescend. How come you are not assuaged by the president s voice saying rex is here. If that does not tell you everything you need to know. He is here now. The question is what is the succession plan. More importantly, we have serious issues on the table. We have russia, which apparently the president doesnt want to deal with except occasionally to play footsie phone calls. We have north korea obviously. This is urgent. This is real. We still dont have adequate representation, for example, in korea. So we have the olympics coming up. The administration has been hawkish. A. B. , this is urgent. Perhaps even more than we worried about with north korea. Lindsey graham had an interesting statement. He says that he gives it a 30 chance that President Trump will order a first strike on north korea. I would say theres a 3 in 10 chance we use the military option. That is a specific mathematical calculation hes using. What does that tell us . Theres been a lot of talk among Foreign Policy voices in this town about the fact that the administration is preparing for a preemptive strike. Thats just not the kind of thing i think were supposed to be talking about. I think senator Lindsey Graham sees there is not an obvious choice to succeed tillerson. He has a lot of expertise in the area. If he thinks hes helping by speaking in a way tillerson isnt to intimidate the north koreans into not testing anymore, there is a 70 chance that President Trump responds with an attack if they test again. This kind of talk coming from a senator i just think is saying this is what i think the administration will do. I think it is really exceptional. I think he means well. I think it might be because it looks like cia director pompeo will not be fulfilling tillersons spot and maybe Lindsey Graham is up for that after all of his time on the golf course with President Trump. Reaffirming the fact this is nonzero. They believe previous administrations have been way too lax. If they can get nukes on submarines that is dangerous for the world and cannot happen. This is going to hit a breaking point. So you have north korea where every military expert tells us that option is not just the first. The second was probably the penultimate. Right. Then you go to a place they dont want to be strong, russia. We have this phone call between trump and putin. What was it about . President putin gave a year end conference call. He will run for third term as an independent. Russian interference was nothing. Right. And praised President Trump about the come, which provoked a thank you phone call. This is not the biggest deal between our two countries. Washington post excellent report, he seems to be an ostrich when it comes to russian interference. He cant resist a thank you for praise. This is the oddest and most troubling about this presidency. He will lose no opportunity to criticize someone on the world stage but consistently has refused to criticize putin. Why . On that only on tphous question, we will wrap. Thank you both very much. Omarosa out of a job but why is she still on the payroll at tax payer expense. Keyboard clacking ] [ mouse clicks, keyboard clacking ] [ mouse clicking ] [ keyboard clacking ] [ mouse clicking ] [ keyboard clacking ] good questions lead to good answers. Our advisors can help you find both. Talk to one today and see why were bullish on the future. Yours. Talk to one today and see why were bullish on the future. Was supposed to be a wake reup call for our government . Sh people all across the country lost their savings, their pensions and their jobs. Im tom steyer and it turned out that the system that had benefited people like me who are well off, was, in fact, stacked against everyone else. Its why i left my Investment Firm and resolved to use my savings for the public good. 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I dont have a number directly in front of me. Specifically not africanamerican. But, again, we have a diverse team at the white house. Certainly diverse team in the press office. Certainly something we drive for every day is to add, grow, be more diversity and representative of the country at large. The question is how many senior staffers are africanamerican . And the answer was all of that words we get. So cnn editor and chief of the daily beast is here to discuss. She said we have a really diverse team at the white house. Okay. Lets see some numbers. Shes not ready for that question. Lets find out at the press conference today. Then say i dont know. Ill get back to you about it. We dont see that. I assume theyre not hiding. Compared to the obama administration, the appointments are not significantly diverse. He appointed ben carson at hud. George w. Bush did a decent job. Barack obamas cabinet incredibly diverse and his senior staff. Not true with this president. And 80 are men. Gender diversity is an issue as well. Look, it gets raised because she is supposedly a trump loyalist. She left with a trumpesque tantalizing tease with her story soon to hit were shelves. She is saying she was upset by how my community was being treated. Here it is. As the only africanamerican woman in this white house, as a senior staff and assistant to the president , i have seen things that have made me uncomfortable, that have upset me, that have affected me deeply and emotionally. It has affected my community and my people. And when i can tell my story, it is is a profound story that i know the world will want to hear. Masterful tease. Masterful tease. That is what is called a book proposal. Thats what you do. Shes going to go write her book. Shs framing it and she learned from the best, the best hype man. She said shes the only africanamerican on the senior staff. So maybe there is a partial answer. Lets see the numbers. I think the larger issue of course is this is an extension of the problem of an administration that seems to be run on reality tv rules. Another issue is she is still somehow on the tax payer dime. Yes. She is still being paid although she has left. Heres jeff zeleny asking about that. Why are taxpayers continuing to pay her salary for another month if shes not longer at the white house. Were not going to get deeper into deeper matters. Is that normal . Theres a lot of different protocols that take place in the government. Thats part of the process. If you want to reach out to h. R. , they might be able to walk you through in a more detailed way. Tax payer dollars. I dont understand her answer im not going to get into that. They are tax payer dollars. A lot are routinely wasted. It sounds like there is that. If the issue is salary, he can supplement that himself. Im sure they will find somebody in in area of government to justify her staying on. It goes to trumps process to be different, better, clean out the swamp. How does he explain this . Obama era regulations on the internet have been repealed. Who likes it . Internet Service Providers. Netflix and facebook, not so much. Why . Well take you through it. Net neutrality. Where did this start . President obamas fcc at the time vote issed to classify Internet Service is providers as common carriers. What did that do . It required them to treat all content that they carried equally. No preferences. No sweetheart deals. No gimmicks to make you play more. But pai rolled back those protections. What does this mean to you . Internet Service Providers can charge different fees for different content. They could slow down access to some content, block certain content, period. Comcast owns the Internet Service xfinity. They also own 30 of hulu. It is a direct competitor of who . Netflix. Thanks to the fcc, comcast could charge you more to access netflix or serve it at a lower speed than it does hulu. While a big Establishment Company like netflix, they can probably handle that. They have such a big consumer base. What about the next netflix . What about the little guy that wants to come up . They could get blocked, slowed down until you dont use it. Then it could get worse. Heres how. If it is owned by a political agenda, they could block or slow down conten that doesnt fit into their agenda. It would be perfectly legal. If it goes through isp providers will be subject to ftc jurisdiction, which is just another agency. Fcc, ftc. Federal trade commission. They are tough on anti competitive practices. Pai says rolling back Net Neutrality just means they will stop micromanaging the internet. But that is not true. It means that big business will be allowed to micromanage it. How is that going to be good for the consumer . Bear in mind, nothing is set in stone. We feel it doesnt take effect until next year. It could be stopped by courts or by congress. All right. There are the facts. Wake up. Thank you, chris, for explaining that in excellent detail. So lets bring in our media experts to talk about it. Brian stelter host of reliable sources. And the hot fudge. We will skip to dessert. Heres how the late night comics framed it. Fcc voted 32 to repeal obama air era Net Neutrality. If you dont know what that means, google it while you can. If youre watching the show right now online right now i just want to remind you that thank you, President Trump. Thanks to you and this jack hole you appointed to run the fcc, big corporations are about to take full control of the internet. So merry christmas, everybody. So, brian, this is going to change the experience everyone has with the internet. It goes back to arguments made for years how to keep the free and open and regulate with a light touch. We are beginning to see this back and forth, whether its a republican or democrat in office. What im struck by this year, this is now a political issue. You can see a mobilization, especially among liberals, who were afraid of yesterday. The late night comics afraid of that. This is now a political issue. Net neutrality, the future of the internet, is going to be an election issue. It becomes a First Amendment right. It becomes access argument to content. It is interesting. The argument on the other side is the ftc, federal trade commission, is better at chasing after anticompetitive practices than the fcc. And all of this stuff that were saying would be the concern is going to be seen as anticompetitive and therefore not allowed. Yeah. But it does still put the onus on catching this being done. If it goes into effect, they have to chase it down. Now there is a rule they cant do it. Theres a presumption. Exactly. You have to pay for everything. You have to pay for your pillow, blanket, everything when you fly. It seems they want to be able to let the companies do what they want and charge Different Things for different people and have tiered service tps they want. Pai is basically saying they wont do that. Deregulation brings in big change. He said youre stifling innovation. Because the providers dont know what you will allow that no one can have advantage in terms of speed. If you do it this way, there will be tons of innovation. If the Current Companies that sell us internet, start to make it a lot more expensive, there will be innovation from upstarts. Stkpwaog el and facebook and others will come in and provide other option stpwhrs whoptions. The pending at t and time warner. That is the other deal. And the president doesnt like one of them and really likes another. Thats why i was so intrigued yesterday. Disney and fox, it gets announced. Rupert murdoch gets a congratulatory phone call from President Trump. We see him hugging earlier in the year. I love this. This is a representation of the relationship. This is a Mutual Alliance that has been going on for years. But especially now that President Trump is in office. It seems he is supportive of this new deal. That raises questions about what the difference is. Why is the government blocking at t time warner and likes disney fox . Well see what the government decides to do with this case. Is there any doubt. He doesnt like cnn. He likes fox news. Its what he likes. The logic of this is so backward. Because the one thing should be what the government traditionally is against, which is a horizontal merger and not a vertical merger. The opposite is whats taking place. Theyre against the time warner merger and for the fox. This is what Rupert Murdoch had to say about it. There was a problem with our chief executive. Sort of it was three or four days. Theres been nothing since then. Now of course okay. I hope everybody could hear that. It was so outrageous. That was about Sexual Harassment. It wasnt about the president. No. It wasnt about the president. He was asked about the Sexual Harassment claims at fox news. It turns out that we now know it was rotten to the core. For all the people who had been paying settlements, all the women. And what Rupert Murdoch said. There was one minor problem. It was the ceo. We got rid of him within hours. Not true hes not talking about bill oreilly, cortez, ryan. I could go on with the list of men who have bepaid settlements what did they change systemic . What is in place so women feel they have avenues of opportunity to express themselves . Whats different now . Until that moment, until we heard him say that, i thought he was interested in changing the culture. This is really notable. He rarely gives opinions. He calls it all nonsense. He said some of the examples of harassment were just flirting. Tell that to the women that lost Career Opportunities because of predatory men. It is not just roger ailes. They paid millions of dollars to settle the oreilly suit. I think oreilly had to pay a that one. They were covering up for ailes. By the way, the big deal that he wanted internationally, sky deal, was impeded by this action and presumably disney will be able to pull that off when he couldnt. That was so stunning to me. I didnt know if it was willful ignorance or even worse. I think his sons are more enlightened. A certain generation of men with a certain attitude toward harassment. If the sons are different, we will know because the company will be different. Changing a culture is hard and it comes with financial liability they dont want to ta take on. 5 Million People enrolling in obamacare. Thats more signups than this time last year. How will the gop tax plan impact coverage . We ask a key architect of obamacare next. They have passions to pursue. How do they avoid trips to the post office . Stamps. 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They will call a yearoveryear analysis. If the gop tax bill passes, it will eliminate the individual mandate at the heart of the aca. What would that mean . Lets discuss it with dr. Zeke emmanuel, Health Policy adviser. Best for hanukkah. Best to the family. Nice to be here. Zeke, what have you got . Well, look, if you get rid of the individual mandate, the estimate is about 4 Million People in the first year will lose insurance. And a lot of people on the republican side keep saying over and over again, you know, this is voluntary. People dont want the insurance. They are just being forced to buy the insurance. The fact of the matter is a lot of these people would like to have the insurance. One effect of getting rid of the mandate is premiums will go up 10 because a lot of people will stop buying. That affects people who have to pay the full fare out of their own pocket, and it also means the government will pay more. Lets remember, its not like they dont use health care. They end up using health care. Unfortunately sometimes they get into an accident. They get a new diagnosis that was unanticipated. They might be pregnant, premature baby. Guess who pays for those . All of us. They are not bearing the full cost of their decision. Counter argument. Just because the Supreme Court said you have a right to make me get insurance doesnt mean its right to do it. The reason that the premiums are so high is there is not enough choice. President trump said im going to change that by giving you catastrophic policy options where is you just pay if the worst thing happens to you. It will be very he cheap. Young people will buy those. You will get them in the pool anyway and everything will be fine. And you get a tax cut. Go away, zeke. First of all, President Trump claimed that he wouldnt take insurance away from anyone. He would have more people insured than president obama. That is turning out to be not true. Second of all, we have looked at these catastrophic plans. Very, very few young people buy catastrophic plans. Thats the first thing. Second, theyre not actually all that cheap. I spent almost a year looking at catastrophic plans trying to design a plan around them many we know a small percentage of people use a lot of health care costs. That means theyre having a qaa to catastrophe that requires a lot of cost. You cant get a plan that is that cheap. They end up 60 of 70 of a regular health plan. And thats not actually that cheap. It wont bring a lot of people in. It is true, i agree with the president , we need more choice. But all of his actions, changing the rules have way through open enrollment, cutting back on the costsharing subsidies, all of these changes are driving Insurance Companies wacky. They dont know what the risk pool is going to be. So they are increasing rates or just getting out of the market. That is hardly increasing competition and increasing choice. The president and the republicans are actually driving choice down by a lot of their actions making uncertainty in the market. Lets drill down on that a little bit. Yeah. People will hear this mandate is being folded into the tax bill. It is help to go finance tax cuts. That is going to sound good to a lot of people. Getting rid of the mandate and what other things that you see happening on the executive need to be pointed out . Because the pushback from the white house will be no, no, no, this is all you, zeke. This is obama. Whatever is wrong with the aca is on you. Whats your counter . Well, the president has been in Office Almost a full year. He has created a huge amount of havoc in the insurance markets. As i mentioned, getting rid of the mandate, not paying cost sharing subsidies, making decisions at the last minute. So its hard for Insurance Companies to place products. Not doing a lot of basic things that would have shored up the exchanges like having a risk corridor or reinsurance products for the companies in the insurance market. All of those actually undermine Insurance Companiess willingness to participate. Theres a lot of comments that the federal government is not a reliable partner. It is unpredictable. It is shoving more costs onto the Insurance Companies. That is hardly a formula for inviting Insurance Companies in and allowing them to price their insurance plans as cheaply as possible. And just look, repealing the mandate is going to increase prices 10 alone. And we know that repealing the cost sharing subsidies also increase them. People who have to pay full freight. Families that make over 100,000, theyre going to be particularly hard hit with seeing 1,000, 2,000 in their premiums. That is hard a formula for getting more people to insurance. Zeke emmanuel, i missed you. Thank you for having me. Happy holidays. You too. What seemed like a done deal on tax reform now could be in jeopardy. Can republicans still deliver this christmas . Well take a look. We have tremendous support. I think we will get there in a very short period of time. I dont think anyone thinks he will hold up this bill. Two republican senators are both ill. Both will be back and the votes will be there. This is very close to not passing. The bill is wildly unpopular. People understand this is a betrayal of the