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three incident management team came to town. this team worked with locals on the ground to execute the best recovery plan to get people back on their feet. are we willing to tell workers like that who lend a hand at moment's notice to take a furlough and will we tell the community when they call for help no one's there? 14% of the department's work force is facing furloughs. this isn't an invisible work force. these are staffers that administrator grants to local governments, fire departments, emergency responders after devastating storms. these are the people who are helping the management teams that ron the ground in places like hoquiam, washington. that staff won't be able to process emergency request, won't be able to do their jobs because congress isn't doing its job. then we should also consider the over 80% of homeland security employees who will stay on without pay. what kind of message are we sending members of our coast guard or border patrol when we tell them to work without pay? mortgage payment, still got to pay it. utility bills, still do. grocery bills, still got to eat. but paycheck sorry. yeah, it's true. if a crew of a ship faced trouble in washington state's water, the coast guard would still swing into action, but that crew wouldn't get paid for their work and some of their support staff might not be back at headquarters to help them. i've already heard from members of the coast guard, spouses of department employees and everyday citizens worried about how they will impact our communities and our national security because in my home state of washington there are more than 6,000 department workers and we have five coast guard stations alone in my region. shutdowns like this have ripple effects into our local economies too. when workers aren't getting paid or their pay is delayed sacrifices are made. less money spent at the grocery store, friday dinners night out stopped, family vacations canceled or delayed. impacts local restaurants, local hotels small businesses. we've seen this movie before. businesses everywhere took a hit when the customers they rely on aren't sure when exactly their next paycheck will come. finally, we don't motivate our federal work force by engaging in these stunts. we are proud of our federal work force in my region, but too often congress does not let them know that what they do is important. too often they're a bargaining chip in a political fight. i came to congress to give people confidence that their government was not broken, that its staffed with workers dedicated to making a meanful impact in their lives and in the lives of american citizens. we will not sequel find and motivated folks join a work force that faces continuous threats to the job they do every day. when the message to our workers and the local businesses is that politics is more important than their paychecks. i want to end by mentioning yesterday former secretary of homeland security tom ridge said that this shutdown was wrong and folly. these are soldiers at d.h.s., he said. they wear a different uniform. but the goal and objection and the mission is the same, keeping america as safe as possible. mr. speaker, let's keep america safe and let's reject this shutdown. thank you, mr. speaker. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the chair recognizes the gentleman from pennsylvania, mr. fitzpatrick, for five minutes. mr. fitzpatrick: thank you mr. speaker. last year alone over 450 teachers or school employees across the nation were arrested for misconduct with a child. that's more than one per day. what's more, the department of education has estimated that nearly 10% of students are targets of educator sexual misconduct sometime during their school career. those numbers should be disturbing to every lawmaker, to every parent and every grandparent in this body. in an effort to curb this alarming trend, i am proud that student success act, under debate here today includes language from a bill that i introduced the jeremy bell act to strengthen student protection efforts and get serious about who's being hired and transferred within our school systems. the jeremy bell act was named for a young boy from west virginia who was drugged, sexually assaulted and murdered by his elementary school principal, a man who had been suspected of sexual misconduct at previous jobs but was allowed to quietly transferred from district to district avoiding repercussions and without awareness from his new employers. a shameful act known as passing the trash. language found within the student success act will work to end the practice of passing the trash by blocking educational agencies from receiving federal funds if they facilitate the transfer of an employee that they know or have probable cause to know or believe has engaged in sexual misconduct with a student. furthermore, it ensures that hiring of all school employees will be compliant with current extensive background check requirements. as the husband of an educator, i know the overwhelming majority of teachers, educators, school administrators and support staff are amazing, caring individuals committed to the success of their students. it is as much to protect the good work that they do as well as the safety for our children that we must pass this legislation and take real steps to address this issue. mr. speaker, i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. pursuant to clause 12-a of rule 1, the chair declares the house in recess until >> when the house returns at noon eastern, work continues on a k through 12 education measure that would eliminate no child left behind. the national school requirements and give that authority to states. debate and votes on a number of amendments are expected throughout the day. and before tomorrow, we could see work in the house on legislation to fund the homeland security department. the current funding expires friday at midnight. live coverage of the house here on c-span. when members return at noon eastern. and since this morning on "washington journal," we have been asking you on facebook should the oust g.o.p. separate the department of homeland security spending from immigration? your thoughts at facebook.com/c-span. joseph posts no, what's the point of the department of homeland security if they are not securing the nation's borders? karen says, yes. it shouldn't have taken this long. two separate issues to be handled each on their own. like us on facebook and follow us on twitter. and coming up at about 11:30 or so, we'll hear from house speaker john a. boehner. his news conference with reporters. we'll have that live here on c-span. if we get the chance we'll get thoughts from you on the d.h.s. spending measure. also try to show you the briefing from this morning with leader reid and pelosi that happened a short while ago. for some background on the homeland security spending measure and what's ahead this week, we spoke to a capitol hill reporter. will seek an emergency stay on that. for more on this that all on capitol hill, we are joined by mike willis. mike telling our viewers about what is happening so far, have you heard any and into this morning about what house republicans might do now that the senate has advanced a bill that they will possibly vote on today for funding the homeland security department? guest: that is the million-dollar question. the senate reversed course. they passed ended a move on the clean bill. it puts boehner in a box. he said the house has done its job to passes bill and send it to the house. he is just buying time. he is facing pressures from all different sides. there was a meeting between boehner mcconnell. boehner will have a press conference. this is the senate's job. the decision will -- host: what do they want him to do? guest: they are telling him this is an unconstitutional move. we are congress and we have the power of the purse. the only way we can do it is on a must pass bill. we are insisting on tying these two provisions together. if you do not do it, you're going to vote against it. he is trying to adhere to the rules. this probably would not have the majority of the majority. at most early will not have the majority of the majority. he is having a tough speaker reelection vote a couple weeks ago, a couple months ago. 25 republicans voting against him. there is a conservative ill will, pressure on the right. he does not want to start this congress with a new majority. the biggest republican majority since the hoover administration. there is all this discord within the party. politically, it looks bad. for job security, it looks bad. he does not want to start the year this way. he may have to. host: what are his options? guest: the senate is expected to pass the bill today. he could take of the clean bill and it would pass -- he could take up the clean bill and it would pass easily. it would be an easy task. he would break the rule and the conservatives would revolt. or, they could pass a short-term continuing resolution and buy themselves some more debate time for the house to take up the clean bill. we do not know how long it will take. we do not know how long a continuing resolution will take. another factor here is that benjamin netanyahu said to come in on tuesday and speak, there is a huge fight in congress over homeland purity. there is enough controversy surrounding his speech. this debate is going on at the same time and it would look bad on republican leadership. host: we could be heading into a weekend session for congress. guest: there has been talk of that. house majority leader said to keep your schedule flexible. we might be doing it over the weekend. that would depend on a couple of things. if someone in the senate wanted to hold up the senate bill, they could do that. everyone knows what is going to happen. no one is expecting that to take any time. if it comes back to the house, no one knows what is going to happen. we could be here for a long snowy weekend. host: would republicans agreed to a short-term funding? guest: that is the other question. short-term funding would not include anything that undoes the executive action on immigration. there are a lot of people who would vote for it. the tea party wing says we cannot rely on the courts and we have to do it ourselves. rather >> coming up in about 15 minutes or so, we'll hear from house speaker john boehner on the way forward on homeland security spending and other issues. his news conference live here on c-span. and democratic leader nancy pelosi was joined by senate democratic leader harry reid this morning for a joint news conference. mainly focusing on the issue of homeland security spending. >> brought my glasses to be with harry, but he switched on me. good morning, everyone. it's an honor to be here with the house, the senate democratic leader, to see him being so fit. we come together because we are faced with a challenge for our country. a challenge to honor our oath of office which we all take to protect and defend the american people. and now we have had this comedy of errors that's been going on. this major amateur hour in nonlegislation that is standing in the way of honoring our oath of office. as we have the debate on it it's important to recognize what it means to people. harry, you remember when we established the detcht homeland security and the committee -- department of homeland security and the committee on homeland security. it was controversial and i don't think we still have it exactly right, but nonetheless the title, homeland security was the source of great debate. but it has the word home in it, and this is what it means to people in their homes. a shut down will block $340 million in staffing for adequate fire and emergency response grants. you know it as the safer grants. critical funding for local communities used to help fire departments increase the number of frontline firefighters. it means that the urban area security initiative, a shut down will block $600 million in the urban area security initiative that support the preparedness of nearly 40 high-threat communities across the country. fema and disaster preparedness grants, think of this. under the republican department of homeland security shut down 3,260 fema employees will be furloughed. furloughed means stay home and you don't get paid. do not under any circumstances come to work. critical disaster preparedness grants will be blocked. local jurisdictions, for example, in massachusetts, which is inundated with snow, local jurisdictions will be denied the disaster assistance grants they need to deal with the snow. d.h.s. shut down will in terms of secret service will prevent new hires, vital training, and upgrades across the secret service's protective activities, not only to protect president obama but to prepare for the upcoming presidential election. under the republican shut down 30,000 d.h.s. employees will be furloughed. another nearly 170,000 d.h.s. employees will -- made up primarily of frontline security personnel, will have to come to work without pay. that's nearly 200,000 employees that will either be furloughed or asked to work without pay. i don't know about you, but i think almost everybody i know cannot live without having our paycheck on time. members of congress even. yet they are asking this department of homeland security people to do that. that nearly 170,000 of d.h.s. employees, 40,000 are border patrol 50,000 t.s.a., 13,000 i.c.e., 40,000 active duty coast guard, more than 4,000 secret service law enforcement agents. all these people asked to come to work without pay. as we all know, many of these -- practically all of them depend on their biweekly paychecks and lack of pay can cause a real hardship. wouldn't it for you and your family? including the ability to pay your mortgage, your rent, your car payment, whatever it happens to be. let's just get down to passing a clean bill to the end of september. the gamesmanship should end. the texas case, the court t. i disagree with the court decision -- the court i disagree with the court decision gave them a saving way to end this. harry and i agree, peter king will probably be the most courted man in america in the next few hours, when he said peter king, republican member of congress from new york, he said, we cannot allow d.h.s. not to be funded. people think we are crazy. there are terrorist attacks all over the wormed, and we are talking about closing down homeland security. -- world and we are talking about closing down homeland security. peter king said, this is like living in the world of the crazy people. i associate myself with the remarks of the gentleman from new york. i'm pleased to yield to the distinguished democratic leader of the senate. >> so good to be with you always. we have been in some battles over the years social security wars, i'm happy to be here with you today. we are here funding for the department of homeland security runs out is gone, friday at 12:01 a.m. it's over with. if it shuts down, leader pelosi has outlined in detail how it hurts. but the one thing i want to make sure everyone understands, not only does it drastically affect those men and women who work so hard, but it affects our homeland. in new york, they picked up three guys leaving to join isis. it's in the mind of every american that you see these people in cages, they have captured, and now they spent 22 minutes burning one of them to death that everyone has seen. picked up 21 christians in syria the day before yesterday. we know that they are likely to be beheaded. american people are frightened and rightfully so. isis appears to have money. terrorists appear to have money. why shouldn't our homeland have the ability to protect itself? this is like living in a world of crazy people, that's what king said and that is absolutely true. now, i want to make sure everyone understands where we are in the senate. we are going to have a vote on making sure that homeland security is not shut down. we are ready to vote on that right now. it's been held up by the republicans, but i'm sure that will clear because they can only hold it up for a short period of time. we have had all kinds of rumors that the house is going to take our fully funded bill and send it back with a number of riders on it. it is a waste of time. we will not allow a conference to take place. it won't happen. and we are willing to go to -- when we finish fully funding homeland security, that the republicans want to go to immigration, any part thereof, will go to them. they won't need a motion to proceed, we'll just do it. that's where we are today. i think that we have -- we must accept the fact that this is -- i don't know -- it's like an eighth grade civics class. what going on in the house? we have two leaders who haven't talked to each other in two weeks. this is not a very good situation. we are not going to be part of their petty games. we want the department of homeland security for all the reasons leader pelosi outlined and more to be fully funded. >> senator reid, if the house sends over a bill with riders, does the department shut down? >> if they send over a bill with all the riders in it, they have shut down the government. we are not going to play games. we have been working for a month to come up with a clear funding proposal the president can sign. so they can put all their riders on it they want. we will not allow that to take place. i'm not going to be here playing all these hypothetical games. let the house act. the rules are very clear what rights they have. what rights we have. they have to do i think, the right thing to do that is to fund the government. i'm happy to see chairman rogers, head of the appropriations, he believes there should be full funding. there's a score or more that have publicly spoken out that -- republicans, it should be fully funded. i'm not going to get into all these hypotheticals. whether they send us a two-day c.r., all these riders, we are where we are. here in the senate we are voting on fully funding homeland security. we are not going to allow conferences to take place. if they want to debate immigration when this is over, we are happy to do t >> has speaker boehner asked of you, or any conversations with him -- >> i have had brief conversations with him on the subject of wednesday probably most recently where i said we are not prepared to do two months. i agree with the leader, we can't get involved in five days seven day, all that nonsense. get the job done on time. this is all about time. it's about the time that they kick the can down the road from december. and december instead of making this part of the compromise bill for funding the government, they said we are separating this out. in that time -- the speaker said at the time, don't worry about this. we'll pass it in january. that's what he said at the time. in that time, in january, we had jew see charlie. the whole rorled was -- juis suis charlie. the whole world was galvanized. except in the hermetically sealed house of representatives chamber. we still haven't faced our responsibility. so i would say with all due respect to everything you said, i have a grandson in eighth grade, and his knowledge about how to pass a bill is superior to what we see among the republicans there. it's harmful to our national security, our homeland security for us to be inching along whether it's two months, four months. stop the games playing. let's just get serious. we are only talking now about like eight months of -- we have lost some of the time. the uncertainty is really bad. if you want to build a firehouse, if you want to train a work force to protect the american people, we are already weakening that because of the time that the republicans have used up with their frivolity. it's about time for them to grow up and pass this bill. >> they can still win this immigration fight, they are more optimistic about winning this one than the fight in 2013? i'm wondering what your response is to that? >> nothing. you have to talk to them about that. what they are demonstrating though, is immigration was not the reason they are shutting down the government. it was the excuse they are using because now they have an out. from what the judge said in texas. now they still want to shut down government. understand shutting down government is their mowive. -- motive. that's what they have to be accountable for. >> i lost track, but i'm sure you know, i think they voted to defund obamacare 57 times. so maybe we have 56 more times left on immigration. >> senator reid, do you think there will be enough votes to get on to this collins bill? >> i said here, make sure that you-all understand this the president signs homeland security, fully funds homeland security. it doesn't shut down. we relish a debate on immigration. but it has to be after we fully fund homeland security. >> how would you want to amend that bill? >> let's see what bill they bring up. if it's collins -- it would be longer than the keystone pipeline. >> just to claire fy, you won't give speaker boehner cover for a temporary c.r. two weeks two months? >> that question cover, what can i give cover to the american people so their homeland is protected. the cover for the speaker is very much less important than the cover that the american people need from us to do our job and to pass a homeland security bill. but getting back to immigration point for a moment, understand this and you probably know this just to review. the president of the united states acted with full legal authority under the law and with precedent. and with the ability for prosecutorial discretion to protect the people that he did. president ronald reagan, president george herber walker bush president clinton, president george w. bush, all acted -- and presidents before them. president nixon eisenhower. just trying to go into your lifetimes here. reagan, the president said if you don't like what i have done, act. pass an immigration bill. a comprehensive immigration bill. and then we can have that debate. but they didn't. and there's now saying the president is acting in way that is -- that they object to. they say unconstitutional. but they never said that about ronald reagan. while tour president is saying pass a bill, president reagan, the congress passed a bill, and president reagan said you did not go far enough to protect people. so he had his family -- >> we'll leave just the last couple of minutes of this briefing and take you live to house speaker john boehner. his briefing just getting under way. accounts. now we have a chance tokes spanned them and give more middle class families a real peace of mind. i hope the president will work with us to get this finished. last november president obama announced a series of sweeping executive actions on immigration. in doing so, he completely reversed his own opinion. remember that 22 times the president said, he didn't have the authority to do what he eventually did. and that is to exceed his constitutional authority. so on january 14, the house passed a bill to fund the department of homeland security and to block the president's executive overreach with regard to immigration. on february 3, senator mcconnell tried to begin debate on the house bill. the senate democrats blocked the debate on that day and they have blocked debate on the bill three times since then. so be clear, they weren't voting against the bill, they are voting to block debate on the bill. i just think it's outrageous that senate democrats are using homeland security funding for blackmail to protect the actions of the president where the president himself said he didn't have the authority to do this. yesterday, the white house press secretary said that this is a fight amongst republicans. it is not a fight amongst republicans. all republicans agree that we want to fund the department of homeland security, and we want to stop the president's executive actions with regard to immigration. meanwhile, president obama told a left wing blog that he opposes senate filibusters. but he sat there like a bump on the log watching senate democrats filibuster the debate on this bill. so we are waiting to see what the senate can or can't do. and then we'll make decisions about how we are going to proceed. finally, the president's national security advisor said that destructive for the prime minister of israel to address the united states congress next week. i couldn't disagree more. the american people and both parties in congress have always stood with israel. nothing and no one should get in the way of that. but what is destructive in my view is making a bad deal that paves the way for a nuclear iran. that's destructive and that's why it's so important for the american people to hear what prime minister netanyahu has to say about the grave threats that we are facing. so i'm glad the prime minister is coming and glad most of my colleagues democrats and republicans, will be there to hear what he has to say. >> mr. speaker, two-part question. there's a final -- does a final d.h.s. bill have to have some semblance of the immigration reform executive order blockade in here? number two if it isn't, if it isn't the way it is now, in the final version, what is acceptable? what other types of immigration will be acceptable? >> i just said the house passed a bill seeks weeks ago. it's time for the -- six weeks ago. it's time for the senate to do their work. >> it's saying there is no change. that way or the whie. >> i don't know what the senate can produce or can't produce. if they produce something, we'll see what they do after they see it. >> at this point you do know what the senate will produce. mitch mcconnell and harry reid said they'll vote on a bill. will you be able to persuade your conference and use democratic votes to get that clean bill out? >> i see what the senate actually passes then i'll know. >> the senate majority leader clearly agrees with you on principle, but he's doing what he needs to do to get the department of homeland security passed. -- funded. you're a legislator at heart, a compromiser at heart, is it hard for you to hold the line because of the way your caucus is? >> no. it's not hard at all. it's not hard at all. the president said 22 times that he did not have the authority to make these changes in law. and yet he did it anyway. the congress of the united states cannot look the other way and act like it didn't happen. the courts aren't looking the other way. this is a violation of our constitution. it's a violation of the balance of powers in our constitution. and it needs to be addressed and we are doing it. >> would shutting down -- >> we passed a bill found the department. >> you feel that your speakership is being challenged yet again? >> heavens sakes, no. not at all. >> the court stopped it at least temporarily. do you think that's enough? how do you balance that with a shut down of the department of homeland security? >> the courts have stopped the president's executive action, at least temporarily. but having said that, i think there's a role for congress to play in defending the constitution and upholding the rule of law. we intend to do that. >> if ands and butts were candies and nuts every day would be christmas we passed a bill to fund the department of homeland security six weeks ago. it's time for the senate to act. we passed a bill to fund the department six weeks ago. how many times do i have to say it? >> with respect, mr. speaker your answer is you're going to do the same as yesterday. mitch mcconnell has said exactly what he's going to do. you know exactly what air going to get. it's going to be a clean d.h.s. funding bill. you can put it on the floor, kill t. let them vote on it? have you had this discussion? >> when they make decisions i'll let you know. >> is a continuing resolution -- is a continuing resolution tied to the court's likely outcome, acceptable outcome? >> the house has done its work. and when the senate does its work, we'll let you know how we are going to proceed. paul. >> describe your relationship with mcconnell. >> the senate majority leader and i have had a long relationship and especially over the last eight years seven eight years we have had a very close working relationship. but he has his challenges and i have mine. and we have two different institutions that don't have the same body temperature every day. and so we tend to try to work to narrow the differences. but sometimes there are differences. the house by nature and by design is a hell of a lot more rambunctious place than the senate. much more. see you. thanks. >> the house is about to come back in at noon eastern. speaker boehner with reporters on capitol hill. here on c-span we'll open up our phone lines for republicans only and find out your thoughts on the homeland security spending measure and the plan by at least in the senate to separate out those immigration amendments that the house had passed. your thoughts on that. here's the numbers to use, if you're in the eastern and central time zones 202-748-8920. mountain and pacific 202-748-8921. we'll get to your calls. just to let you know the state of play where homeland security spending is as of this thursday morning, the current funding will expire friday at midnight. the white house, of course, has threatened to eato over those immigration riders. the ones that blocked executive orders of president obama. that was passed by the house a couple weeks ago. the senate now plans to vote sometime on a clean spending bill. just a spending measure. they may and will likely debate a separate immigration bill that includes some of those oppositions to the president's immigration orders. and lastly, as you heard there from speaker boehner, it's unclear they are going to wait until something passes in the senate before the house acts. so far no hint of house the house -- how the house will proceed. to washington, d.c. walter. caller: yes. the entire incident comes down to one thing. democrats want taxpayer money for foreign nationals. they want to bestow taxpayer money and benefits to foreign nationals. not to americans, not to legal immigrants. everything they are asking for are for those who are here illegally. they are willing to vote no and shut down the entire department and put all of us at risk to get benefits for their illegal alien friends. that's what it oils down to. thanks. >> charlie in haywoode, california. republicans only. go ahead. caller: good morning. this all exercise is just plain stupid. homeland security is a vital part of the nation's safeguards. they are not going to throw those -- not going to let them come to work. that's crap. most of the people that are going to be affected by this are maybe a secretary here and there. but the rest of it, all the baggage people and all that stuff, they are not going to make them not come to work. this is such a load of crap. and harry reid and the senate democrats, they need to get with the program and figure out what the heck is going on and do what they are supposed to do. >> we covered the briefing with harry reid and nancy pelosi and you can see that on our website at c-span.org. a tweet here from pete king republican congressman from new york. about the upcoming plan of the house, potential plan. i oppose what the president did on immigration, but only people who are detached from reality would consider not funding d.h.s. of course the efforts by republicans got a bit of a boost last week with that federal judge ruling temporarily halting some of those executive orders of the president on immigration. let's go to texas next and hear from l.c. caller: yes. i believe that they ought to shut down homeland security because they are not doing anything anyway. if you come to the texas border it's wide open. they worry about isis coming through. well on planes, they better worry about them coming through texas here because i can walk right across the border into a highway and go anywhere in the united states i want to. if obama is really concerned about humane, how about the christians that's getting their heads cut off? he's done nothing about that. he's the weakest president i have ever seen in my life. >> l.c., how close is quinn lynn texas to the border? >> about 300 miles. >> here's patricia in dublin, california. patricia, go ahead. caller: good morning. thanks for taking my calls. two quick points. first of all, we saw what kind of devastation this country has which stood from obamacare which is only active because the bench said that it was a tax. we can no longer tolerate any decisions come interesting any court to legislate our government basically. that's number one. we must stand strong on the decisions made by the house. that's number one. number two, i would implore every public service employee, county, sitty, fed, state that -- city, fed, state, we must absolutely communicate with these employees to understand the following. if you are out of work for 30 days, just remember this, we have brave men and women in our military who are securing our country every day. 30 days of questionable whether or not you're going to get paid, i think is a sacrifice and it is indeed a charge that you accepted when you took that employment with the federal government. please stand ground. please be brave and withstand these financial challenges that you may have. if this goes past friday. >> taking your calls on whether the house g.o.p. should separate the immigration amendments from the homeland security package which the house -- senate has done. it's still unclear as to when the senate will vote on that clean spending bill, but that is likely before the end of the week. you can leave your comments at facebook.com/c-span as well. next up is union, missouri, sheila. hi. caller: good morning. one of the tools as we know that the congress has is the power of the purse. the courts are reviewing whether the executive action is legal or not. why would you fund something that has not even been determined whether or not it's legal? >> sheila, thanks for your comment. facebook comments here from sean who says about separating out the amendments, the immigration clauses. the republicans are playing political games with our safety. just as they did prior to 9/11. and nick says, normally i would say yes, but in this circumstances, no. because we have to stop these illegal actions. the house is coming in at noon eastern, about 15 minutes away. today they are focused on the no child left behind bill. the republican measure. we'll get amendment debate throughout the day today and a number of votes as well. we'll continue to take your calls and go to grass valley, california. david. grass valley, are you there? caller: yes. thank you for taking my call. i'm just kind of very miffed in regards why we can't send up clean bills. no matter what we believe, aren't we interested in understanding how people vote? so there are clean bills, we could all say we are for homeland security, we are for or against the immigration. and other issues. i just can't make it simple and we all know what's going on. make it very easy to vote. thank you very much. >> here's des moines, iowa. mark, go ahead. caller: thank you, god, somebody is finally pulling the emergency brake on the train. and thank you, c-span. >> what do you mean by the emergency brake there mark? we lost him. hear from dallas, iowa. did i get that right? caller: yes. you got that right. my question is why is mr. mcconnell not running the senate like he should be? harry reid we need them to take the gloves off and start working on it. >> ok, jeff. comment on mitch mcconnell. politico who tweets, mcconnell said little about the way forward on d.h.s. this morning. he said it's good to see democrats finally bring an end to their weeks-long filibuster. another tweet from nancy pelosi. under the republican homeland security shut down, 169,000 d.h.s. employees would have to work without pay. again the current spending measure expires at midnight friday. looks like the senate will pass a clean measure without any immigration riders. garfield, new jersey republican callers only. go ahead. caller: good morning. a comment, two days ago, tuesday morning, we heard senator barbara boxer on the senate floor saying how criticizing the republicans debate on this immigration, the immigration riders to the homeland security funding, was an unrelated issue and should be taken up separately from funged homeland security. well, my comment is when the president and the democrats inserted the immigration funding into the d.h.s. bill, then it was relevant and an essential part of the homeland security funding. but now when the republicans want to debate it and refuse to fund what they see as an illegal action, all of a sudden it's an unrelated issue. if any lawmakers are listening to this call, i would like for them to take this question up on the senate floor. thank you. >> next up is alabama. tim, welcome to the conversation here. caller: how you doing? i want to praise john boehner, shut it down. obama veto the keystone. and i pray that we needed to fund t my thing is we need to put immigration, make a detcht its own. so that way we need to defund it, we can defund it without any problems, interfering with anything else. i just want to say that it's a good job and hope boehner stays strong. we need to defund it. >> speaking -- you mentioned the veto, the white house has issued a veto threat on the legislation. the current legislation, the pending legislation is the house passed bill. that's the one that passed a couple weeks ago that had the immigration riders on there. the amendments that blocked the president's executive action on immigration. tuesday of this week, mitch mcconnell says we are going to split that out. we are going to have a separate piece of legislation for that and it looks like they will vote on a clean spending measure for homeland security to fund the homeland security department beyond friday at midnight. and it's likely the senate will vote on that sometime before the weekend. waiting for the house to come in here in about 13 minutes or so. noon eastern. this is rochester new york. paul. caller: yes. my only concern with this immigration is it should be separate because it's a big item it should be debated. all these people coming here, they aren't all people that are going to give us jobs. we've got a lot of americans without jobs. and the keystone pipeline not going through, that's going to be -- ok, maybe not as many jobs as they think it is, but for that person or people that get jobs, it's an income for their family. the only thing stopping it is the fact that the people want clean energy. they are not against the pipeline, they are against oil. and yet you look at the wind farms, and they are killing birds left and right out there in california. you've got animal rights activists fighting the people for the clean energy. but yet when two birds fall into an oil vat they fine the heck out of the oil company. how come nobody's fining these people for killing birds? >> check a couple comments on facebook. fst.com/c-span. this is sherry who says amnesty is the biggest national security threat we face. it must be blocked as part of d.h.s. funding bill. no it should not be separated. absolutely, says blane, while they are at it, the house should debate the immigration bill passed by the senate almost two years ago. in other words passed in the senate controlled at that time by democrats by the way. a tweet here from luisa who covers capitol hill for the "l.a. times" in "chicago tribune" talking about some of the comments john boehner made in his briefing a few moments ago. speaker boehner says, obama quote sat there like a bump on the log as senate democrats initially filibustered the homeland security bill. tony in chandler, arizona. gha do you think of the debate ton homeland security -- can what do you think of the debate on homeland security? caller: i do believe boehner is correct. mcconnell is making a mistake. they should leave that funding -- defunding illegal amnesty and that's just plain -- they should -- that's the only thing we have is -- control over that. his this country's not going to make t i just hope they continue fighting for it. thank you. >> tony. in his briefing speaker boehner was asked about his relationship with senate majority leader mitch mcconnell. the "wall street journal" writes a little bit about this ---about that relationship this morning. the headline in christina partyson's peace. g.o.p. leaders appear out of sync over homeland security funding. one more call from pennsylvania. caller: hello. i don't think the thing should be separated. there's one simple thing they could do to solve this whole immigration thing. before they go through a comprehensive immigration bill, pass a bill to secure the border first. every conservative i know would go for an immigration bill once they secured the borders separately. first. that was the mistake that happened during ronald reagan's era. amnesty without securing the border. >> jack, appreciate your comments. all your calls and comments and more at facebook.com/c-span. the house is coming in at noon. in about 10 minutes. they take up the continued debate on k through 12 educationpolicy. the rewrite of the no child left behind law. this is the house version of it. amendment debate today and likely into tomorrow as well. we'll have it live here on c-span. back to homeland security spending. we spoke this morning to a capitol hill reporter about some of the background on where the debate stands. he will seek an emergency stay on that. for more on this that all on capitol hill, we are joined by mike willis. mike telling our viewers about what is happening so far, have you heard any and into this morning about what house o a press conference. this is the senate's job. the decision will -- host: what do they want him to do? guest: they are telling him this is an unconstitutional move. we are congress and we have the power of the purse. the only way we can do it is on a must pass bill. we are insisting on tying these two provisions together. if you do not do it, you're going to vote against it. he is trying to adhere to the rules. this probably would not have the majority of the majority. at most early will not have the majority of the majority. he is having a tough speaker reelection vote a couple weeks ago, a couple months ago. 25 republicans voting against him. there is a conservative ill will, pressure on the right. he does not want to start this congress with a new majority. the biggest republican majority since the hoover administration. there is all this discord within the party. politically, it looks bad. for job security, it looks bad. he does not want to start the year this way. he may have to. host: what are his options? guest: the senate is expected to pass the bill today. he could take of the clean bill and it would pass -- he could take up the clean bill and it would pass easily. it would be an easy task. he would break the rule and the conservatives would revolt. or, they could pass a short-term continuing resolution and buy themselves some more debate time for the house to take up the clean bill. we do not know how long it will take. we do not know how long a continuing resolution will take. another factor here is that benjamin netanyahu said to come in on tuesday and speak, there is a huge fight in congress over homeland purity. there is enough controversy surrounding his speech. this debate is going on at the same time and it would look bad on republican leadership. host: we could be heading into a weekend session for congress. guest: there has been talk of that. house majority leader said to keep your schedule flexible. we might be doing it over the weekend. that would depend on a couple of things. if someone in the senate wanted to hold up the senate bill, they could do that. everyone knows what is going to happen. no one is expecting that to take any time. if it comes back to the house, no one knows what is going to happen. we could be here for a long snowy weekend. host: would republicans agreed to a short-term funding? guest: that is the other question. short-term funding would not include anything that undoes the executive action on immigration. there are a lot of people who would vote for it. the tea party wing says we cannot rely on the courts and we have to do it ourselves. rather than have homeland security agency sh >> here are some of our featured programs for this weekend on the c-span networks. on c-span2's book tv saturday night at 10:00 p.m. eastern on afterwards. alan ryskind talks about the communist party in hollywood during the 1930's. sunday at noon on in-depth, our live three-hour conversation with harvard law professor and author lani guinar. and saturday at 6:00 p.m. eastern on the civil war, a discussion about the burning of the columbia, south carolina, following the surrender of the city to william tecumseh sherman and his troops. and/oral histories, an interview with former consultant to the nixon white house, on the pentagon papers, a classified study on vietnam. which he copied and gave to the "new york times" in 1971. find our complete television schedule at c-span.org. and let us know what you think about the programs you're watching. call us at 202-626-3400. email us at comments at c-span.org. or send us a tweet at c-span, #comments. join the c-span conversation. like us on facebook. follow us on twitter. >> the u.s. house gaveling back in momentarily to continue work on a k through 12 education measure that would eliminate no child left behind national school requirements and give that authority to the states. debate and votes on a number of amendments are expected throughout the afternoon and before tomorrow we could see work on legislation to fund the department of homeland security. current funding expires at midnight on friday. live to the house floor here on c-span.

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