You are watching booktv, television for serious readers. You can watch any program you see you online at booktv. Org. Host joining us here on our set is author David Horwitz. His nose book is called big agenda President Trumps plang to save america. Doesnt David Horwitz doesnt feel like the 60 to you right now in america . Guest it feels much worse than the 60s. First of all, the big movement of the 60s were the hippies, and they were the nine, in my view. And were not really political. But even bill left was not as violent i dont recall a speaker inviting the campus to shut down like mario or mcdonald nothing of that ever happened to destroy the 100,000 worth of property and individual sent to the hospital is terrible and it comes to encouragement by the Obama Administration and the Obama Justice department for violent people the Civilrights Movement now celebrates the career criminals. Freddie gray is somebody who parade of black people why would anybody defendant . So i do think there is a more but the new left was committed until the end of the decade to american ideas. Listening to the other side with respect but now they have no respect for those different views. Host what we doing in the 60s . [laughter] i was a radical i got up and and give a speech at the campus denouncing kennedys testing of was called into the community of deans and faculty and needed permission before i got up to speak because there might be a riot and a that that was crazy but i can see that in this climate. And then to comeback and was an editor. Might take the Democratic Party is a party consumed by hate. And that is by character assassination. This half dozen from the United States senate. In the attorney general for mondays Civilrights Movement began to say the kkk leads to the death in desegregated schools. The spin nicad you go from campus riots to supporter of donald trump and . And i agreed to the books for the school but it was victorious and then mr. The vietnamese without our protection. But i realize the laugh was never the antiwar movement. And that is what motivates the. In your new book big agenda you write the pelicans need to direct their heroes that the achilles heel with the responsibility of misery and suffering. There is a chapter in my but called the achilles heel. Democrats have a stranglehold with every killing field. Chicago. Baltimore. Washington d. C. 100 controlled by the Democratic Party. Everything that is wrong with the innercity. And those of a graduate are functionally illiterate. With the beautiful mother of four children who should not have been on the street every oppression of minorities democrats and progressives are 100 percent end until donald trump spending over 20 years with every speech from the Democratic Party to get their attention proposing 100 billion settlement. That is a big agenda with that movement that has been galvanized by that juggernaut but only if it emulates the strategy of the campaign if they stay on the attack. When trump look Hillary Clinton in the eye to say you are a liar and a crook. She is both. Their role is ducking in and getting at of the way. And he also said this is tremendously important hillary has tremendous hatred and her heart. And call the of basket of deplorable as homophobes or islamophobia there is no one in this country that has not also been called a racist. Those are demonizing words and then there was not such a remarkably tolerant country do not have the effect that does this summer ecosure racist your humanity is already suspect. Prior to coming on here writing in his book the issue isnt if democrats tried to turn them into america but the conservative america of those values but to enlarge extent it is conservative america. Yes. That is what america has been and that is the exception. With the accountability of individuals to judge people on their merits the left is driven by density politics to judge people on the basis of their skin color. On the basis of agenda or sexual orientation. They have a phrase for it. People of color. That is not even english. You call them colored people . Would this theological function of people of color . Those are to attain ethnic groups and with those survivors so across the of bordered the people of color therefore with the special sensitivity the people in india . Their people of color. Feel the people in their world that cannot people of color are of white people. They have no color but the bed is pure racism from the Democratic Party today. That is what i say in my broken. That is the big agenda. Host how is President Trump doing quite. If a kid is doing very well. negative i think he is doing very well. To mention the oppression of blacks from the Democratic Party endorsed scared to confront democrats. How can you be a member of racist party . Host we will hear what our viewers have to say. Babylon it be on msn b. C. It is from that ideological left. This is the only time with the Editorial Page Editor so i complain and they said this on cspan and it was of a disgrace as ucla modify conservatives and 500 and auriana huffington. So hasnt really changed. As a result. Host lets hear from michael from illinois goahead. Caller i want him to understand there was bill clinton and obama in this made avenue president now they have a reality star the will comment and regress. It is devoted to the university but yes. You cannot continue to have a democracy of only one side as 85 of the youth go to public university. That is what allows this to happen. I appeal to any chairman of the appropriations for the president of those universities who sell one to see political and intellectual diversity. Brcs sitting on a campus what happens is there is no check. I hate using the word liberal but they are not always right but when everybody agrees with everybody . The faculties have been dumb down. And with that captive audience is grotesque. I never knew the politics of my profession. And you never knew their positions but thats has disappeared as a national tragedy. I hope the Republican Party is responsible and they have the power to do something about it. Host texas good afternoon. Caller what a pleasure and want to thank you for your courage and your truth. I know you will not surrender the matter how many names your called with that prophetic left. Diaz still plan to pursue . Thank god for cspan and the dogs of the lies we would not ceo on an lou dobbs. I will never see one msn b. C. Can you give anecdotal context . And . They give for your kind words i tried to speak at berkeley and was invited on april 12 but the university should be down shut me down. And eight, left his client a bridge too far. Those democrats who have come mount condemning and facing more of it. So i think they have overdone it. I m band at cnn and effectively add ms nbc. It is as simple as that of would not revise the Republican Party to do something about it because we want an independent media it has given itself over to the Democratic Party. So that will have to come from within. But what is more important those who are a lot more important than i am. Host David Horowitz who invited you to speak with you have attended . And i guess. And the police chief and he should be fired for this but he said it would be a security problem. I am not a security problem the said you could solve that and then to take away your recognition he wont have organization on campus. What this belief chief police chief said it used to be the school for the death. You cannot advertise the location of the speech. And unfortunately so what is ever needed as a large protest. That is a threat to our democracy. Caller while a beating you . Sold many people could call you a big get. To show you how bad things are, the head of the Student Workers Union sent an email saying i should be dyed a platform and have three children one is black one is filipino i marched in my first civilrights march probably even before you were born in 1948. And my record and civilrights is clear. I am very proud of it. And then to describe as a white nationalists. And with that democratic leadership you have a National Problem people dont take that Chuck Schumer is a liar as i do that he is also racist. The first 100 days of the Trump Presidency the executive orders to restore guantanamo into defund the sanctuarys cities. Getting he is doing very well he is the party of cowards sanctuarys cities they need to be prosecuted of pearl communist approach terrorist and the supporter of castros cuba and i write about this in the big agenda they say it was designed with the department of Homeland Security because they identify with the terrorist. That was 95 percent accurate. Where muslims confused with terrorist by the leftist . Maybe 300,000 words . That one sentence if you look at the sites because it does not exist. Host the next call from california. Caller i am so glad youre out there speaking and with those soft bigotry and blacks dictations they have tried to a light the innercity and what is your analysis where do you see that coming with the agenda . With the insiders of the indelible community angelico community not everything trump does will please them. And it is a fight to return the powers to the states to get washington off everybodys back. I dont agree with paul ryan or george bush. With the soft bigotry of low expectations. The Democratic Party is a racist party full of black and hispanic people across the country we cannot even get the statistics on the crimes that are probably hispanic because obamacare it is for a racist and dont even want to say anything that would sound negative but with that Patriotic Community but one criminal sea in opportunity to come to america with all the goodies that we can doubt people dont want america to have borders for them to being antiamerican. From page 26 of big agenda the real effect of calling people racist is to drum them out of the company of decent people and to stigmatize them as extremists, social outcasts and on suitable to participate in any legitimate conversation. Guest its the chief weapon. They call you a racist. That in the argument. The only answer to that, go right back at them, fight fire with fire. Democrats are racist. Its easy to show. They are. It you are a drug dealer, you know, selling poison to poor people in the innercity, ande you happen to be black, you are oppressed, your victim, we will give your family 5 million when you bang yourself to death. Its unbelievable. Host West Virginia you are on book tv with David Horowitz. Caller i have been listening to cspan for longtime ally have been educated. By so many people taking so many pictures inside of the meetings kinky very much. Also id like to ask a question of david or of its imc in many times. Do you feel do you feel like its moving towards a treacher nest situation when it affects directly and badly the boats that are cast in different states. I was very disillusioned by Hillary Clinton having 400 votes that were rocksolid even though she have all of those scandals that was ridiculous. Im very afraid of trump. Thank you. To make i dont know why youd be afraid of trump. Is he cares a lot about his own reputation and he puts his name on all of his buildings and such. He will try to do the right thing. I share in your high opinion of peace. Cspan was created by nixon republican you would not have a fair channel like this. Nobody ever complaints about that. Uld take that is why i am a republican. In american might. Growing up to be the american way. Growing up to be the american way. Is an old corruption. I would not call it treason. Treo we live in a society that reflects our feelings as human beings. That is a system of checks and balances. It would require an expert. If you want to talk treason they will go across the border. Im just repeating what trump has already set. See mike what is a red diaper baby. This is part of it. To cause america to live in the cold war was soviet russia. That was orchestrated by this movement from moscow. That was a red diaper baby. See mike what kind of folks dash mike what kind of work did your folks do. The next call for David Horwitz. Thank you for taking my call. Its a much different opinion. I obviously he believes that someone who went behind for it said that they could not serve. Obviously he believes someone refused to pay the taxes. Despite the fact that he was taxed at 8 on casinos in new jersey. fiftyfive and pennsylvania. There has not been a casino ever that does that. Iled b that does that. Lets get an answer. You are a trump heater. Bankruptcy is complicated. As part of american law. Rt of am the way i see it is that he has faced adversity. He is not a criminal. He hasnt been has them in charge of the criminal. The Democratic Party it was around hundred 80 degrees. Whatever the views in the iraq war. Do you talk with any of your old friends from the 60s. Ave a go her battles which are. Were furious our way in the past. Pa what a great time with them. Prior to his death had you talked with that i think his whole life is bad. He never learned. He manipulate people he put them in harms way the author of the rat. They have other people get there. In the situations where the police will crack their heads and make them radical. I was horrified. Didnt have anything nice to say. Its calling in from rocky mount north carolina. Do you think he is going to be able to stand the pressure. For the next four years. Thank you. See mike that is a 64,000dollar question right there. Ight t i dont know whether he has read the book or not. Its really derived from the grassroots. And how to fight these battles. I think trump is a very tough guy. One with tremendous adversities. I have enough confidence that it will stay the course. It is a tougher battle than ever imagined it would be. Ed th go ahead john. Thank you for taking my call. Name calling. That gets close to calling a person a racist. A lot of name calling going on by this gentleman. With the notion with power if power goes back to the states like it did in 1865 we would still have a slavery. At this nation was built on individual work on people going out they call people names. They complained about people using the word racist. I do think karen immigrant. Youve no idea what race is a is if you think calling someone a trump heater is the same. Its individual accountability and what his comments were about individuals. They liberated the slaves. 3,000 years not jesus, not mohammed not moses nobody. Until they called it immoral. In the birth certificate they were all endowed by god with an illegal right to libertyri and as i said it was a little over a generation. At the cost of 600,000 american lives america owes their freedom to america. I have no apologies. And made great sacrifices to realize it. And i now have the most inclusive most equal society in the face of the earth. Back to your first 100 days of the trump agenda. The democrats had overplayed their hand so greatly. Id be really surprised that Supreme Court justice said it will be very conservative. The democrats voted werent th all 170 senators who voted conf in the appeals court. What does i that do to the credibility of democrats. If there are religious a democrat will be committed to the democrats. But there scratching their heads over that one. We had had one debate on health care. They have already been indicting them morally. You will not win that argument politically. The problem with obama care is it was an assault on individual freedom. You can choose your dr. And you cant choose your plan. It was so constructive with the lid individual liberties. Very difficult to replace. They are calling from west lake villas. You have knowledge thus faru hak that you are brought up a communist in the 1950s and 60s. You acknowledge that you are a radical leftist. You are a close associate of the lack party and a close friend of hugh newton. And you seem to not be able to get along with people very long. Even married four times you have now become at some point you became a right winger. So my my question is how can we trust your judgment about any issue. Civic you attacked me but youre totally ignorant of my life story. And another book. First of all, i was married for 20 years to my first wife and mother of my children. Ive been married for 23 years ch to my present wife. In between when the black Panther Party and i felt like all my friends supported the murders i went into a personal tailspin. I will not justify the two marriages in the middle i dont think i have anything to do with trusting that. Ive written over a million in half words on my political positions im certainly the t only radical from the 60s maybe theres one or two others that have made a serious assessment of where they went wrong. If you want to find out why i no longer and i would never be in antiwar activists is because the left didnt care about it. It was only about bashing america. Thats basically what happened. How ive no respect for those. Many of whom our leaders ofny the Democratic Party today by the way. Why would you trust trust Bernie Sanders but why would you trust anyone who chose evans hyman in moscow. That is who the Democratic Party is today. He wouldve been the nominee if they hadnt taken the primary. That is a reality. I make no apologies for having second thoughts. See mick the. The day you cannot the conservative what was the reaction of some of the longtime colleagues and your parents. My mother believed that family m was more important than politics. I t i think both of my parents were very worried after this woman was killed. They were a vicious gang. Vici and most of the people they murdered were black. Because i was threatened i was concerned about it. What was the other part of your question. I lost everything every friend i ever had. Thats probably what keeps people in the left. You never realize that when youre in the religious movement. Learn if you do something politically incorrect and dvlly you are in danger of losing your friends when youre 35 years old to use to lose every friend you ever had. Maybe they are the bad people that the left claims they are. Ive have a good rest of my life here. Has his big agenda has been blurred by rush limbaugh. Peter sweitzer and in culture. Jaclyn is calling in from detroit. Thank you for taking my call. I want to say you are a brilliant man i love who you are and what you say. My question is how are you able to see the insight of how they had people in slavery. I think the way you think and i think god for the way you think. You are brilliant and we love you. So how are you able to see i compliment you on your fortitude. For that reason and Clarence Thomas and other black conservatives. I was turned around on civil rights. Ood i understand how bad it have become by reading thomas souls book. We have the great issues there. Very wise man. What the hold on our universities. Mike is calling from detroit as well. It is wonderful to listen to you. I was born in 1950 it was fully inspiring because my africanamerican classmates and so far were into the Civil Rights Movement. You can kind of contrast that to the culture now. It was so negative and destructive. It just really incredible to me. S will rig the Civil Rights Movement was destroyed by sharpton and jackson. Hustle they line their own pockets. By attacking white people basically. Basica and holding them for ransom. The socalled left has done. To tell young black people that the system is rigged against you and to deny the incredible opportunities that this country affords. Lets just think of it. Snoop doggy dogg was criminal and conscious. He is a talented comedian. Actually. Its a great country. As a great country of the left. The censorship issue is huge. P s the conservative views. My book is like ten weeks on the New York Times bestseller. Ton po this is a literary potion. I read a book review since 1985 when i made the indiscreet of saying that i had voted for ronald reagan. That was enough to get me there. From the big agenda it is unconscionable that k12 children should be indoctrinated as taxpayers expense and anti american prejudices of the political left is an outrage that they have a perch conservatives from the faculties and breeding reading list on the conservative speaker. To ensure their safety when they speak. Just a few minutes left with our guest. Lets work in jonathan. A privilege to talk to you. Untr. Just two quick questions if i may. First, president obama left behind a lot of trolls andba loyalists. Any ideas on how to inject them a number to the reference for george soros. Why hasnt a holocaust survivor of one of these survivors ever sue him for his role as a nazi collaborator and sending his kinsman and his countrymen to the camp i will wait for my answer. I think the latter is found. They were being sent to these. That was the problem there. I think trump has advisors. Steve van and would bennett would be a good example. For the obama loyalist. That is an inside washington issue. And as far as im concerned and what my life has been spent doing is the conservative grass roots have to rise up. When i came to the right where it is is the ground on this. Where are the activists. We as a student organization. Not until the Obama Presidency has the right risen at the grassroots level. The great thing about that is its a grassroots project. We have to do at the local level. Theyve been indoctrinating kids from kindergarten on up we need a code of ethics. Just go to your state legislatures and say we need a code of ethics for k12 teachers that will prevent them from indoctrinating students and taking positions on controversial issues. They cannot advocate for any side. Whether in the k12 classroom. Lets take away the teaching license. Glenda, you have the last word. We can have to hang up on glenda and lets hear from david in Santa Barbara california. Youre on the air. Please go ahead and ask your question and make your comments. I would like to complement you. Uh d they are really informative. I would just like to ask do you encourage followers who has the communist party. A very informative view. Im not familiar with those things. The communist party is an important it was the idea people on the left are a part of the religious movement and they believe that their role can be redeemed. In the world can be redeemed. They see themselves as the redeemers. They are willing to use the power of the state and the federal government to impose their views on everyone else. Ta that is why they are so dangerous. Not a Political Party not a particular organization. It is the idea that you can have social justice how can you have social justice when people in ministry and it will be the same people that are corrupting it. There is no society outside of the individuals who make it up. From there are only social injustices with the role ofever whoever is clinically on top. It is our read. It is a fight in every generation. To make that. And reagan said freedom is only one generation away from barbarism if we dont fight for it. The most recent book just out this year the big agenda. President trumps plan to save america. Speemac this is book tv on cspan two. Television for serious readers. At 845 the journalists and documented has the role of the white house chief of staff. Afterwards the journalist reports on the first democratically elected female president. And at 11 we wrap up our saturday primetime lineup who discusses the new edition of his 1967 but making it. That all happens tonight on our book tv. Good evening ladies and settlement and welcome to barnes noble upper west side. I have the distinct pleasure of introducing authors Jonathan Allen and amie parnes. He is the have of community content. 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