It at a successful 100 day. Between 13 Congressional Review Acts, pieces of statutes new york laws north regular layings, between then syria reaction, the afghanistan moab, the response to north korea, the budget, andd especially because of justice gorsuch, he want the first 100 days. Like to win more but he won the first 100 day jazz. Host what is important or significant thats too low but he has broken out of the starvation years of theme department of defense so Mick Mulvaney is not nope for being a defense spending. He is a budget hawk and says the deficit is a bigger National Security problem than the prc or russia. Was a little afraid he would undercut defense. Still not what needed to be. No enough money for a 350 ship navy but going the right direction. By the time it gets through the house and senate and after thehe shutdown, which is coming,. Host you think we center. Guest Chuck Schumer wants a shut down, going to cause a shutdown, because his base demands a shutdown, and his hard core 10 wants to be seen to be fighting so he senator schumer is a very smart guy and knows that it was not smart to filibuster neil gorsuch because they reduced the ability to nominate and confirm the Supreme Court to 51 votes as opposed to having the filibuster availablea when in the next seat comes open so senator schumer did not have a good reason to do that. Forced by his base to do it. Forced by the base to shut the government. T the government is all shut when the republicans have been in the white house. E this time a republican president gets to pick what stays open and what is shut down. We wont shut down mt. Rushmr. Or the st. Louis arch or the national mall. Well shut down npr, shut down things that the left loves and wait until the npr people get word theyre not get anything money for a while. Going to beer tough. Host where do you agreed the healthcare debate that was held. Guest a fiasco for republicans. Part of that is pre the president s fault or pail ryan odd called but i blame never Freedom Caucus or the area 51 caucus who previouses in legislative flying saucerserserd pretend that the indiana has more republicans thanked dot. They pretend that Susan Collins and rob portman with vote to cut made okayed. Theyre not. They pretend the role back of the preexisting conditions, be pushed away. They have to realize incrementalism works. Take 80 of a good deal. Host when you look the fourth way what are the get over issues for the republican snooze republicans . R get over immigration. By not dedeporting the dacaveryg kids he telegraphed that opposite the border wall guess up and we have additional security on the border theres a deal to be had with democrats on immigration reform. He has got to have an infrastructure package that fourth way talked about how to do that the right way and can get ten times us a much done with a tenth of the money that president obama got and has done the most effective thing in repudiating president obamas Foreign Policy. He has been very effective doin. It the right way. Host what other would guest a 350 shape hava, giant much larger marine corps and you do offering do everything you can to telegraph the american response will be one of great strength and not one of weakness. So when syria violate his unchemical Weapons Convention you drop 59 cruise missiles on a mass murderer. You dont draw a red line and erase it. Host Michael Eric Dyson was on to talk about his and one thing me writes is that donald trump is the most dangerousmo racist demagogue we have ever had in office. Guest that would overlook the fact that lot of people prior to the civil war weree slave holders and i tech mica michael is a friend and is a very smart guy and a very good provocateur but you have to erase all precivil war history. So i believe permanently from dealing with trump, the president s 15 times on their radio, four times on debate, i dont think hes a racist or homophobe. E. Hes a developer, and i represented developers for 30 years, developerred are who they need to be, when they need to be that in whatever room theyreom in, no order to get the dial they wont done, done. Dole believe that michael is right and id be happy to debate him. He threw out 0 question from the middle of the room to your derrick that was very funny question. Michael knows what he is doing. Host during the primary who are you supporting . Guest i didnt because i was doing the debates. Was switzerland. I did 170 interviews with eave republican except jim gilmore who i never thought im not going to go to jim gilmore but i. I think each candidate would say i was fair to them from gaming to end. After President Trump won the nomination then it supported him if criticize him when necessary, when he attacked judge kuciel but i was not hesitant to spurt him throughout the summer. I campaigned in order to show support. He went to some blue states that turn red. Look to think we had a hand in them. Host how is paul ryan doing. Guest fine except for the healthcare fiasco. I think the speaker, along with Mitch Mcconnell need to spend more time with their caucus to explain to them we could get wiped out in 2018 if we do notd believe a sufficient number of legislative victories. The Congress View act victories are real victories. Significant hadnt what people understand because theyre bars to the door going forward. They you cant go back and regulate in an area where a congressional regulation has been repealed bay cra act. 13 there will 15 or 16 of them to inch fact, peter, were talkingt about whether to withdraw from the Paris Agreement. The Paris Agreement is a regulation under the Congressional Review Act statute. If the house and the Senate Repeal that by simple majority vote, not only will be out of the Paris Agreement exwont bev allowed to black except by statutory act. So i hope they go in that direction soon. Host hugh hewitt is our getz, radio talk show host and author. His most recent book i calledhe the fourth way. The conserve tv playbook for a lasting gm g. O. P. Majority. 20d central, 7488201. Mountain and pacific time zone. Well put up our twitter address to send a tweet, book tv and facebook and you can make a posting about the Los Angeles Times festival of book and make a posting under that. Facebook. Com booktv. Host hugh hewitt, in 2006 you wrote a book painting the map red the fight to create a permanent republican majority does that book stand up. Guest it has because like the fourth way, it calls for a border fence, like the fourthke way calls for immigration reform. Like the fourth way call others are large navy. Like the fourth way it calls for Hamilton Union politic. Lived in Southern California since 199 the bored fence a exitses in san diego. Ive gone through it many times. My church does some work town there. And it works. Its effective. I also believe that once its in place most americans will go for a very sweeping regularization, in one is in the deportation mood in california. Welcome back to los angeles. Nobody walks around here worrying about deportation. Lo might be a fringe but this isnt a deportation heavy state. Regularization makes sense. I argued for it in 2006. George w. Bush didnt do it. Went for amnesty, and regularization is different because it does not have a path to citizenship in the and until you return to your home country and i think donald trump will deliver that along with the fence and navy and especially judges. So the recipe is the same. Host Hillary Clinton beat donald trump by three votes the margin in california was four million. You have been threatening to leave the state. Guest we have. Mrs. Hewitt and i have moved to virginia. Were out here for the winter when i teach at Chapman University and i will continue to teach there and i will retire here when im done with salem and nbc and come back to california because i married a californian and you go where your wife is from. But were back in virginia. California tis a california is in a very bad way. What is never talked about issi under funded pension liability which is close in 0,400,000,000,000. We were in downtown lang betwee our panel and my conversation today. The potholes are enormous, road inside bad shape. The infrastructure problem in california are immense and well have an earthquake one of this dies and its going in put the ones lived through to shame. P california is not ready for it. They have a 13. 1 income tax on the highest rates wage earners. If the tax reform think about this. Im against this but right now looks like treasury secretary mnuchin wants to getd of the Home MortgageInterest Deduction and state and local income tax deduction. Thats political suicide and if it does happen there wont be any republicans left in california there while be a 13n tax hike for the middle class in california. Kevin emergency karlly will be wiped out. Devin nunes. Tax reform if they pass the tax reform the democratted get the house back. Why did the democrats win so big in california . My friend pete wilson wont like me to say this. I met my wife at a fundraiser but prop 187, a 1990 proposition, i believe, that was the first get tough on illegal immigration proposition began a crackup of latino support for republicans in california. Right now the District Attorney in Riverside County is half mexican and his mom is mexican. He is fluent in spanish. The hidest ranking latino that republican paster in californiah can call Republican Party in californiaing call their open. Also a stanford law god and a season prosecutor of gang. If he if we do not expand the Republican Party into the latino population of canada california we dont have a statewide office right now, not one. We talk about who is least worst democrat. I endorsed sanchez who lost to Kamala Harris which i believe will be president in four yearsb host is there serious talk about seceding . Guest no. I think that one progressivesve got upset and march and get spun up, three or four percent will talk about that but california cant do without even if there was a path to do it and there isnt isnt it would be in the neither the interest of the golden state or america to get a divorce. Much more likely because of them tuesday which texas became a state. They can break into five states and that would give us ten more senators itch like that. Host hugh hewitt is our guest and joe is call fog from pittsburgh. E guest joe, who dialed the phone for you . Caller hewitt. Y i want to ask you about the Republican Party. Now cliff buckley, what do you think of him and hills view ns his viewed . I recall he voted for obama as opposed to john mccain was ons the ticket. Host joe, whats your view because sarah palin was on the ticket. Whats your view. Caller my view is i votedw i for mike pence as oesed to trump. I figure he is a low life and mrs. Clinton was a he life, so who is the lesser of two evils to me. Host last. Guest will, Christopher Buckley is a very talented writer but i dont look to him for political cues. I think it was a binary choice in november. The only person at 30 rock who voted for donald trump but the country would be way over here on left itself second clipped to had become president clinton and mer ric garland would not be on the Supreme Court and wee would have lolls the United States people court and onlyism forever and Justice Breyer when he did a book making our democracy work, came to myor studio in california and said he mostly regret theadora districtt decisions being 54 against them. If a majority of the Supreme Court ever delves into rei districting theyll come up with a rule that magically uphoedded every democrat favoring rei districting and trikes down republicans one. So i thought the Republican Party was doomed. Now i feel pretty good about and it we have donald trump to thank for that. Host nancy rei redondo beach. Caller now mentioned republicans Foreign Policy and said something about that kind of a thumbs up with President Trump, and im just curious because he went into syria, he did what he did without get anything kind of okay from anyone, whereas president obama tried to do what i think i this right the and good to congress and get approval and people turned him down, the president obama, year giving President Trump the thumbs up. So, just what is your perspective on how its okay for President Trump to go in kind of unilaterally and ill hang up for my answer. Guest a great question. Thank you. If told people president obamas Foreign Policy can summed up in a very few words, leading from behind, redline, jvs, libya, aleppo, crimea. It was a Foreign Policy of passivity. P a Foreign Policy of retreat, a Foreign Policy of defeat and the Foreign Policy that left america and our allies weak in the world. Define success abroad as the incremental expansion of literacy in a growing number of terrible regime ablind west. Trump torontos action against bashar assad in syria was what any president ought to do and is constitutional when it their commander in chief authority. Theres a war powers october which i believe is unstungal and i think the great weight of opinion is that the action that President Trump took vees ave syria was constitutional. President obama could hey e happenand chose not. To i criticizedded rummans at the time for not giving him the authority to do it but their answer in response was he promised only a pin prick and that would have been worse than nothing at all. Im not satisfied with that answer but i believe that history will record president obamas decision to eerase the red loan as the defining moment for his legacy. Host pv pike tweets you should ask why he banned bobt woodward from the nixon lie area and if that is not approve of an impulse for autocraciy on the american right. Guest thats a great story. T i was doing a tour of the Nixon Library in 1989 when it wass being built. Two hours in the archives we to Los Angeles Times reporter and some asked me can nip anyone use this and i said, height alertedly, not bob woodward, hes not a historian. And that wasnt the case. Have got ton known bob woodward. Regret saying that but the fact of the matter is i do not like the book, the fine days all rejected the book as being inaccurate assessment of nixonos time in office. Still believe it. But president nixon overruled me. Host why do you not leak the final days . This is a day in 94 that president nixon died. Guest yes. I was on the air live on pbs with big bird when in my ear green light when the green light comes o on you do you delivery and i am standing next to big bird, and i said, approximation nixon has died. An interview with big bird just ahead. It was a shock. I knew him and liked president nixon very well if served him twice not 1978 to 1980 in california and then new york and then building the library. Much underappreciated, more appreciated now and i think a great lesson for donald trump is that Richard Nixon was brought down by people that were too loyal for him hyperpartisan loyalist, get your presidency in big trouble. You want loyal people, not hyperloyal people who are doing things in your name that you dont know about. The didnt know about the breakin but knew be the coverup. Host what about steve ban knopp. Guest i dont know him. I talked to him once asking him to do an interview. I hope he will. He declined at that time. Ive heard so many different storied about steve ban nonbut i make it a upon not to opine on people until ive met them for talk to them on the radio. Fan of breitbart. I dont read it. Some of the people are good. But i am afraid that it can beia hyperbolic, can inflate what ought not to be inflated, so i my news regime in the morning, im. On from to 9 00 in the morning, and i start with the times of london, then raid the new yorkad times and then the Washington Post and then the wall street journal and the blogs and im fair live confident of the factual basis not the spin but the factual basis of theac story jazz do you watch Television News. Guest not much. Craig mill vein im watching them all the time, all very good and i try and catch chuck todds meet the press daily every night. I have other people on other networks, jake tapper is a great journalist and John Dickerson is a terrific journalist, the sunday television has been very healthy for the country, fourac very fine journalists working on sunday morning which is typically how you define the news for the neck week. S. Host what was Election Night like at nbc. Guest unusual for me. I believe i was going home at 10 00 to do a 6 00 a. M. Show. I got back to my hotel room at 2 00 30. The earthquake began to be felt around 10 00. I slid my iphone over to jim carville who was sitting next to me, and the upshot the New York Times was that moved donald trump for 31 favorite to 75, and james needly now that meant the end and from that moment on i just tried to city its a very tough thing to lose an election that you think youre t going to win. Its a very hard thing when its your friend. And so i just tried not to be fist pumping. Some members of the crew were republicans and is was stud as anybody else and there was anc concussion protocol for media like the nfl we would all be it in. That was biggest shock hoff my political life. 1980 was a shock. 1984 was a shop 2010 kansas a shock but this was an 8. 0. Host amy who has ripped a new book below the hillaryri clinton campaign, will be on the washington journal on sunday morning. You can watch that on cspan. But this is booktv on cspan2. And were talking with author hugh hewitt. Up next is john in new jersey go ahead, john. Caller i want teed touch base about the republicans failure to redo obamacare. I think theyre missing an opportunity and i want to talkan about the substance i wont talk about substance. Keep seeing to be torn between repeal without replacement or no change but the there was a president name gerald ford and he proposed a national excess policy in which the government basically takes the back end,rn the most severe portion ofhi Health Care Coverage and thereby allow the free market for most people but takes away the extreme costs for the Insurance Companies thereby allowing them to have universal coverage and lower rates. Thought. Was a good idea then and a good idea now. Guest well, whatever they had in the bill didnt work. They have come back with an amendment which establishes high risk pool and offers states the right to reduce the number of mandatory minimum benefits and allows underwriting to help. Which is not a good idea. People like in america guaranteed issuance with a band of seven to one. I would take the best ofst obamacare which is leaving people children parentsll until age of 26. No discussion on preexisting conditions conditions and as much portability and move forward. M i like the bill as it was written, primarily because it block grant medicaid to states. The first def luigs deeve luigs since the new deal. A unique idea that the Freedom Caucus missed. Getting an Entitlement Program down to the states where they can manage it i mentioned peter i left california fora virginia but 1 areas prior to this i seven on an Orange County build that did children zero to five, their health care and we spent the cigarette tax money on it and we knew better to do it in Orange County with the money than either sacramento or washington, dc now what to do so i believe method okayed block granting the states would be a hugely important step for takin care of poor people with their basic and advanced healthcare needs. The sooner they can go back tore visit that the better off. So im not sure about the ford program. But we cant have what we are having because were in the death spiral. The friends say thats a falsehood. I kansas agree with them. The opinion is sim simply not reed the fact that. Obamacare has been in a death spiral since the president declareddive you like your plan, you can keep it and if youve like your doctor you can keep immigrant. Its not performed or delivered. Host bill, montana. Good evening. Caller the question i have for hugh has to do with republican neck Economic Policy. Since the Reagan Administration the republicans have given massive tax cults to the rich and i wonder with republicans every do anything for the middle class . Guest well, the they can duff a lot for the middle class. Look at Gross Domestic Product from reagan under the tax reform he pushed true in 1986 its been monumentally successful. Reaganomics has drink cycle of if you want to argue between 36 and 391 2 i dont think thats an argument with reagan. Thats a marginal increase that bill clinton pushed through,na that president obama got through. But basically lower rates benefit the middle class and the lower middle class extremely well, and in fact if you look at who pays tax thursday in the United States on the income taxes, its disproportionate, wildly so, those who make the most in the top one percent of america pays the disproportionate amount of income tax. If you want to move forward in an equitable faction you have to move to a says tax, vatted tax. I dont know the vat tax but a much more broadly based fair task system. So disagree with your premise but generally wreckommics has worked spectacularly well. Host so that, vat, flat, where are you . Ill take whatever they can move through provided they legal the home opener mortgage Interest Deduction in place. Thats the great benefit, the great creator of wealth in america for people to be able to buy and afford a home and my friends in states where housing doesnt cost as much as some states such as illinois or in new york or california, scoff the idea it matters to people but in fact the vast majority of people who use that interestri deduction are middle class. Thats a middle class public tax deducts and we ought not to take it away from them. Rick santorum is the most eloquent on dismiss presume President Trump will realize if toy ticket airplane you are crushing construction and republicans are not to go after that deduction. Host frank is in des moines, iowa. Hi, frank. Caller hey, hugh. G guest hey, frank. Caller explain to me, invariably when a country build as wall, history teaches us they do so to keep their people in, not keep people out. If this is the case, if not this is mexicos national Foreign Policy against the u. S. , why is it in their interest to buildwh the wall, build a wall . Guest well, im not sure what history shows us. The soviet union had east germany construct a wall in order to keep east germans from fleeing into the wells and it was very successful in doing. So backed up with bullets. Say Governor Brown say he looks at the wall and think its intended to keep americans. In i submit thats preposterous its about Border Security in an area, extraordinarily dangerous drug cartels and the visible expression of the invisible commitment to sovereignty has already had the impact, could go to Los Angeles Times in march of producing nonpermitted border crossings by 40 . Attorney general sessions hasal been to border in the last would weeks to talk about this. Already wildly successful if you change the atitude of the government towards peoplepe entering the country. Fewer overstay visas and fewer cross borders illegally and in this the reason israel and saudi arabia hungry is buildinga fencing because of the uninhibitedded movement of people is too dangerous for the residents of the country into which theyre going. We need Border Security. Host hugh hewitt is our guest. Hugh hewitt, anyone who refuses to come on your radio show . Guest sometime i have trouble with elected democrats but thats less so. David axelrod has become a regular guest and a friend, but i think demonstrated that democrats are better served by picking their spots on conservative media where theyre treated with civility. So senator murphy of connecticut host , senator murphy has been and i hope senator harris will be on soon. I have talents nancy pelosi for the leadership. We went to the same high school and he comes on often and we spar spark it out. On the left, i dont have much trouble getting liberals getting them on the show. Its conversation like this that i accept. Host Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton, did you invite them during the primary . Guest Bernie Sanders cames close because he knows what he believes and hell say it repeatedly but i think theres no upside to sending the wrong message to your base. If youre talking to the conservative side. Clinton, you mentioned amy thatr was shattered by john allen and amy barnes was eyeopening books they were on the show last week for most of the innout of the three hour segments. It such a riveting luck in the most dysfunctional dysfunctional campaign which is the clinton campaign. They can tune. They got a series of false positives. Secretary clinton won every debate. I know some people deemed trump won the debates but i was at each of them and i dont think you want a single debate. They got a false positive at the Democratic Convention convention. They got all these false positives and they became morere and more cautious as they went on. This book shattered is how that caution can disable from going out and asking people to vote for you and giving them a reason to do so on election day. They did not do so in wisconsin and michigan and pennsylvania and iowa and ohio. Ohio went for me to point obaman win in 212289. Trump when in 2016. Thats my home state. Its astonishing. Host do you enjoy the booka tours . Guest i dont do them very much. But tours are intensive, you dont know where you are and i got to be in the radio studio somewhere every morning at 6 00 a. M. Est. If im in california, ive got a b in the studio at 3 00 a. M. Like youre used to doing. The book tours are profoundly difficult for radio talkshow host who know that the most boring thing is to show up and do the same thing day in and day out. Its tough to get off the air for a week so you just keep doing it and book tours are not everything. Host house the fourth way doing . B2 is doing well enough. But its doing well enough they were bringing it out in paperback in times for the fall and will retitle it based upon review that we got. We got a review. Ill put trump in the subtitle. Its not an anti trump book. What does the republican have to do with President Trump to make it work for both sides and they both have to get something out of the deal. Host bill is calling in from illinois. Bill, good afternoon. No caller afternoon gentlemen. Hugh weve met with you in the chicago area with several conservative gatherings. Id like a lot of your ideas but i disagree with your time but i listen as you are talking over bill bennetts radio spot on the east coast there. Id like to ask you when did news, went to the 24 hour news cycle cause news to become entertainment rather than information. Got to a point where i watch more cspan than i do any of the cable news because im sick of the hype, sick of the editorializing, its very Little Information and more opinion. Can you comment on that . Guest very perceptive. Ne the velocity of news has increased probably by four or 500 in the last five years. So that, when i begin in the radio talk business in 1989 her in los angeles, we did one subject an hour. We walk along collecting topics, you carry clippings with you and now what youll usually do is three or four segments, three or four topics. Segment and my show has 12 segments over three hours. My desire and it is my desire of the research to show our audience wants to know what is happening at any moment in the world. This is a post 911 thing. People are worried all the day long that the shooting is want occurring. Will the pad actually when . Voluo the amount and volume of the connected world is really whats going on. As to the entertainment stuff, the lower third, the breakingal news, the continual hyping of immediacy is only half true but it is the highest rating that the Television News has ever hap. Whats going on right now is the political junkies watch everything, all the time. Tc i want them to watch msnbc and nbc and i want them to watch cspan of course, but you cant dial it back for fear that theyre going to flip over to see if someone else has a breaking news schedule. Its endemic in the industry, the implication of the extremes they go on because of twitter. Right now, i can guarantee you, i dont usually check might twitter feed for after an hour after my television because the people who get upset tweet out stuff. Then ill see verified. It never stops. It just never stops. Its the world we live in and i not to change it and you wont change it. If host are there conservatives in hollywood . Guest yes, there are. Califon host i am myself in Orange County and when i lived in california before i moved back to virginia so i wouldnt go to many aids issues but there are a lot of centerright entertainment issue individuals who most of them are border National Security issues. Not on lifestyle issues. Youre not to find a lot of traditional marriage advocates in hollywood. Well find a lot of people who will go out and perform for the troops and the Great American heroes. Will be honored as such and he deserves a medal of freedom and eaters every accolade that comes his way. There are lots of senator right people in hollywood industry behind the camera as well as in front of it and i traveled thehe country with jon voight, very vocal proponent and fan of President Trump. They exist but they do worry justifiably that with College Campuses to be too vocal, too early in your career will close off venues. Im paid to be conservative so i do. I dont have to worry about that but if i was a young actor in hollywood it would be my advice as a young academic on a College Campus to get your tenure, get your reputation before you get your opinions. You will be punished. Host how do you think about the brouhaha between ann coulter and uc berkeley . Guest berkeley should be ashamed of itself. They were worse with Heather Mcdonald and the very worst was middleberry. Charles murray is American Intellectual of the first rank and he 75 years old. Hes looked has nothing to do with race, the decline of the middle class and he took great out of it specifically. He was set upon almost knocked to the ground, his liberals escort in so i dont know what happened in campuses in america that you cant have a healthy debate. It never have anything goodness. I do believe that universities will become very dull, boring places in places Like Hillsdale College are going to get all the vibrant intellectual because they want to let them in. Some of the smaller liberal arts that embrace general genuine intellectual debates. Theyll prosper in the years ahead. Middleberry will pay a price, mckenna will play price and i wouldnt send my kid to berkeley if you can have a conversation, why go there . Host youre on with author hugh hewitt. Caller welcome to usc. As a prom alumnus of the school. Id like to ask, your recollections of ambassador annenberg and also do you think annenberg would support at his estate. Guest i was unaware with the degree and im glad youre innab annenberg grad and that his aim was on the building. Host mike in sun city california. Caller first of all, i like to mention that you have to be a blind man not to understand. [inaudible] how particular do you recommend the conservative cause to surmount that reality . About the issue of race, how openly you let these liberals answer this, im curious, how do you have an open discussion about race without discussing Political Correctness . Guest let me take them in the order you post them. Their let me tell you about cnn, i was not an employee of cnn. I work for the salem media company. I was a participant in or cnn debate. I was in the room when my white out split unabashed and eric the producer and everyone, they were extremely professional very hardworking, they went over time to be objective and they took my point of view in account i asked the questions i wantedwa to ask whether it was taxes or religious liberty in the spring court. They were very, very fair. Most of Mainstream Media works hard to be fair and i also believe it to be the case that if you were somehow able to talk xray vision of the votes of Mainstream Media, 95 would have voted for Hillary Clinton in the last election. News is where you look. Dan rather once famously said that. Y will they will not love to find out what the story is and what animates a Senate Rights conservative voter. They suffer, not from a lack of work, hardest working people i know and i disagreed with President Trump brother bulkeley when he declared them the enemies of the state. Its a loaded term and it was wrong for him to do so. Im happy to criticize him about that. But they are biased, collectively. Not individually but collectively. I dont know anyone who gives a tougher interest interview then John Dickerson, but you have to look at the media as a whole and its centerleft, very left. What we do about that . One thing that cnn has done is adding conservatives and other conservatives as well. Thats good. Thats important. Try to find people who are objective down the middle, completely neutral and surround them with opinion journalist on both sides. As for the issue of race in america, it is possible to talk about it without Political Correctness interfering with the conversation. I spoke with derek and i can spoke with michael dyson, any number of occasions and other africanamerican spirit is possible to do so you begin with the position of stability and im a christians i believe in equal dignity of every individual out there. Im a great number of friends in the africanamerican church in burbank california. T im mi i try and check in with my friends in the African American committee. Especially my democratic ones and find out what im missing. Theres a lot that anglo people can miss especially if theyre living in their bubbles. Host what do you think off the term fake news . Guest im going to the ninth judicial circuit conference on a panel on thickness. They want to know my definition. Fake news in my view is any media on any platform that purveyor of which knows to be objectively false in his or her mind at the time they communicate it. So russia news is fake news, often. The purveyors know they are telling a lie. If someone knows they are telling a lie, thats fake news. Bias this is completelyknow different. I know almost everyone of the New York Times or nick kristof on the centerleft and they dont write or david brooks in the middle, they dont write things they believed to be objectivelyh false. Political facts thought i was saying falsely about obamacare it was in a desk file. It is in a death spiral they can disagree but its not objectively false for me to say that. Its my opinion based on facts and projections of what is happening. Fake news would be for someoneur to come on right now and say to you, usc doesnt grant degrees. Objectively, i know thats not true, im trying to communicate that to people, its a joke. We had a cabinet in term that limit the propaganda outlets like russian news. Host mary and strongsville ohio. Hi mary. Youre on with author hugh hewitt. Caller hi hugh. Im a longtime fan of used yours i like these ideas in your book. To me they go handinhand with another book by a good friend of yours i believe, michael med badge, his book about america somehow being a blast by the god of history. Your love of america does comech through. Its a cautious optimism for trumps agenda and i agree with you, there are things that he is going to be faced with that could spell the end. I hope people like you keep writing these good books so that hes learning. I truly believe his goal is to unite us as americans and letst get over all the distinctions based on whatever. And also that he will bring us prosperity and as you have said, that will raise up the rest of the world. I know you love cleveland and i just love you. Thank you so much. Host hes been trying to work that in all our. Guest thank you, mary. The cavaliers will beat the wizards three in a row. Youre right. President trump wants a good america. Cted t no ones been elected to the white house that doesnt want america to do well but they just have different visions. Im very hopeful that people continue to call out President Trump when he makes a mistake, as i have done, and to applaud him when they think hes done something great like neil gorsuch. Neil gorsuch is probably the most qualified to get on the spring court. I was told for me by a finalist competed with him for that position. To acknowledge that he was the best choice. If Justice Kennedy steps down, at another just a step down and he appoints another neil gorsucp , the champagne corks are out and he has 20 Circuit Court vacancies to fill. Hes very slow. One of my critiques is that theyre the slowest outofthebox, ever, in terms of appointments. We need a director of fish and wildlife conservative, President Trump is moving awfully slow. What im showing here is you have to be able to critique him in order to be able to take been seriously when you praise him. Look for people to do both, not just exclusively one or the other. Host what the significance of that 100 days . If guest fdr did so much, so fast. We used to in our great president in march and in the period between election and fdr over hoover was a period of a bank annex and he came in with a huge majority and they passed a bunch of district through everything against the wall. It turns out that bill clintonra passed 22 loss in his first 100 days. Very productive time but no one remembers what they were. What matters more to me is gore such and the cra stats are enormously significant. It is arguable that donald trump will have the most significant 100 days of any president since fdr. Raisin didnt get his tax cut in until the assassination attempt. But getting a Supreme Courtstice justice in the way that he was confirmed by showing the value of intelligence and temperament with a simple majority, that so huge for this country. People will be writing about it forever. Host someone present. Reaganomics wasnt as good as hugh hewitt claims. Reagan just about tripled the debt from 994 billion to 2. 94 trillion in eight years. Guest that is 20 trillion. President obama doubled the national debt. To host im sure hes a wellmeaning person but to take the debt from 900 billion to 2. 1 trillion or whatever he said is big and were doing that every year now. Because of obama economics. While it was necessary to jumpstart the economy to bring down and it did lead to a higher deficit, we are also fighting and competing the soap union, we deployed the piercings on the cruise, we put the ohio summary to see, Ronald Reagan spent the money well and there was a deficit, there was a debt but nothing like that happened in the eight years. [inaudible] Ronald Reagan left behind a debt of 2 trillion, president obama left a dog a debt of 20 trillion but he spent left 10 trillion more than he put in the american treasury. Thats five times what president reagan levine. Its an astonishing amount of debt. We have to tackle entitlements. Host a few minutes left wit our guest, hugh hewitt. Mark. Hewitt, caller yes, thank you very much mr. Hewitt for writing the fourth way. I consider myself a progressiveb democrat here in seattle but i do appreciate your book. I was wondering if you could tell me, in your expense, dealing with friends who are democrats is it unfortunately the emphasis of democrats like myself who looked toward things anymore, you teary and wait then perhaps the average republican who looks also at the issues around being an individual. Is that our blind spot as democrats of seeing things and defining things in terms off people thinking alike . Does that make it harder for us to come halfway with republicans in solving problems . Was v last thing, it was very disappointing for me to understand that on facebook about three times as Many Democrats tended to unfriend acquaintances of theirs over the issue of the election. N indica if that is sort of an indication of also maybe in intolerance, unfortunate, on our part. Thanks very much. Guest thats perceptive butt it works both ways. Theres a lot of intolerant republicans and a lot of intolerant immigrants. It helps having grown up in ohio and actually tom brokaw made this argument before, if youre from the midwest you tend not to be as polarized on politics than if youre from one of the coastal elites. Seattle washington is liberal, new york city is very liberal, if youre gonna be in the coastal city, youll hear an echo chamber of rising grievances. That also occurs in deep red texas, it also occurs in deep red states of the country andf its not healthy. I just dont try to treat a generalization. I cant tell anyones giving pattern to charity based on p whether they have a rog by the name. Statistically republicans write more checks to charities then democrats but i dont know the individuals generosity by virtue of the general patterns. I dont think we can contributeo to that. Its useful not to defriendol anyone over politics life is way too short for that. Host hugh hewitt, whats your analysis of the congressional race down in georgia, democrat 148 , we have a couple more here and here and handle the former secretary social went easily. Guest i love when democrats tell us what theyre doing. About two weeks out they began to tell republicans were going to win with the guy i never heard his name. Really im on the air with atlanta from 6 00 a. M. To 9 00 a. M. And were talking about the vote. Republicans, came out in timeosf and he won the pulmonary and if they want to telegraph their punches every time, thats finee by me but thats he will be hell by karen handel in another month just like kansas, for this reason peter, they talk about how she did so much better, the democrats did so much better than the republican has done and that it was a source of great joy for them. In fact, 80000 democrats voted in kansas for november of this year only 55000 democrats showee up in the special election. There is a palpable decline of interaction among democrats. I was in washington for the womens march, big deal. 2 million people. Huge deal. The fall off the last weekend was hundred 25000 people was palpable. They had the science march today , they have to get over this constant hyping of activism or theyre going to run their people out. Its a long time for 2018. They have to lay back, raise the money, recruit some good candidates and not get a room spun up and disappointed along the way. Host have you had any luck getting trump and ministration of vessels or President Trump on your program . Guest waiting for President Trump. Weve had secretary carson, administrative pruitt, another cabinet secretary who have been on a couple times, sean spicer, the starting to show up now that they know their media routine is and im hoping President Trump will be back on soon. Weve had 15 great conversations over the last year and a half. I can sometimes be kryptonite to him. Hes the best interview in america still. People listen to him because he never know quite what youre going to get. Host hugh hewitt has beenou our guest and hear his his most recent book, the Little Red Book , the fourth way the new paperback will be called hugh hewitt, Little Red Book. Guest its not. Heres a look at being published this week. Douglas brinkley and Steven Kennedy smith share several of president john f. Kennedys speeches in jfk. Alvin does a bird looks at buckleys relationship with president s and policymakers. In my life with bob, pamela paul editor of the New York Times book review offers a look into her journal where shes listed all of the books shes read over the past 28 years. Kevin hayes examines the book that influenced americas first president in George Washington a life in books. Also being published this week, the Economic Policy institute Richard Rothstein imports on policies accreted racial record segregation in the color of law. Garrett graff explores the Us Government doomsday plan in his book, raven rock. In a sovereign people carol burke and argues that america would not have survived its infancy without the age of George Washington. Alexander hamilton and john adams. Former fbi special agent, analyzes the growth of islamic rattle is him in an anatomy of terror. Former New York Times economic correspondent louis argues for the need for American Manufacturing in, making it. Look for these titles in bookstores this coming week. Watch for many of the authors in the near future on the tv on cspan two. The main theme of the book, weve had this huge upward distribution of income over the last four decades thats not arguable at this point. Its been documented any number of ways, that talks more about wealth but in any case, weve had a number of good reports, solid data, documenting this huge upward distribution of income. One of my favorites, shows that if you look at the United States and look at the bottom half of the Income Distribution it basically got nothing since 1980. I wont stand by the literal nothing and i know have many comments that jump up and say, if you count this and yukon that. I dont care. Its positive. Youve had four decades in which we had substantial economic growth, substantial innovation and a large share of the public have almost nothing to show for it. I consider that not an arguable point right now. The question is why is that . The conventional view among economists and certainly among policy people watching this, you it just happens. Globalization, there was technology we might feel bad about it. I make a joke about one on one hand we have the liberals cant feel bad about it and the conservatives who state look we want more. In americas prison system. His book is called walkin lockp our own. [applause] thank you everybody for coming out. 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