for gain of function research. >> yes, i guess i would say this. i have read reports and e-mails there. is no smoking gun there that indicates that fauci had a reason to believe this came from the laboratories. from the wuhan virology laboratory. i will answer the question even though jen wouldn't. this is highly political. i promise you it's a major talking point from republicans. think when donald trump speaks tomorrow night in north carolina you will see him go after tpaurb.y let's remember anthony fauci has been on the firing lines protecting americans from public health issues since the mid 80s with aides. before we call for his head, he is a devoted public serve apartment for 40 years. maybe we should slow down. >> john: he's a survivor. >> he's a public servant, john.