to hold that office again, but obviously he feels that joe biden is even less so. how do you see that? because a number of republicans of his ilk aren't certainly reconciling that, tortured souls dealing with that. invariably to man and woman, not all of them, invariably for trump. >> publicly that's the case. and it's by this dilemma, if you will. millions of voters, i don't like the choice of the party i'm inclined to vote for. i don't like donald trump or i don't like joe biden, but the alternative is worse. this is an election we're not voting primarily for somebody, it's going to be we're voting against the other guy. and it's going to be interesting to see how this plays out over the course of the election. publicly we're going to hear from those democrats who have made the decision reluctantly to vote for biden and from republicans like general barr who have reluctantly made the decision to vote for trump.