and what we have seen, particularly on the border. that encourages more populations more individuals to come here illegally which puts a larger strain on dhs's capabilities to secure that border and the like. i'm concerned at least from a law enforcement perspective anything we are doing that's rewarding that illegal behavior. steve: you feel it becomes a magnet. hey, i can get a driver's license in new jersey. let's go. >> absolutely. steve: all right. interesting stuff. chad wolf, the acting secretary at the department of homeland security. thank you very much, sir, for joining us live. >> thank you. steve: 7:21 now in new york city. ahead of christmas. tunnel 2 towers is giving away 24 homes in 24 days to some of the most deserving families in the nation. ceo frank silver is here to announce the next family of fallen police officer getting a mortgage-free home. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪