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The response there. Adam housley live in l. A. With the fallout. Byron york here with analysis on all of this. Lets start with leland. What is the white houses response on the cyberattack . Reporter so far theyre saying a lot from the past couple days in the white house but largely sitting on their hands despite what is reported conclusive evidence north korea is behind this. This put this movie, known as the interview, at the center of what the white house calls a Major National security matter. Still though, they are pulling their punches. Before we start to publicly speculating about a response its appropriate that we allow the investigation to move forward. Sophisticated actors, when they carry out actions like this, are often times, but not always, but often seeking to provoke a response from the United States of america. They may believe a response from us in one fashion or another would be advantageous to them. Reporter we have also learned from senior officials here, that there was members of the United States delegation that have watched this movie at the behest of sownany, the rough cut, if you will, that included the ending which was successful assassination of the character there, kim jongun and approved it. Were also hearing that were a few hours away of course, from this president ial News Conference and the big question on this going forward, martha, does he come out swinging against north korea and bense this cyberattack or does he continue his usually cautious response to things like this . Martha a fairly cautious response with the interview on abc the other night. Well see how strong he comes out. How does this play into the broader Foreign Policy, leland . Reporter not well for the administration. Alarm bells were ringing a long time about threats from the United States economy when it comes from a cyberattack and how a country like north korea could have disproportional effect on the United States by launching a cyberattack. This came from senator john mccain, saying in part, the need for Sony Pictures to make that decision, to pull the movie, ultimately arose from the administrations continuing failure to satisfactoryily address use of Cyber Weapons by our nations enemies. Important to note while the United States often uses its expertise even in private government situation, for example to protect the power grid from cyber attacks, those kinds of things, martha, movie studios are not on that list of protected entities. Martha will test how well and how ready, how wellprepared we are for anything like this on larger scale. Leland, thank you very much. Bill so the president will take many questions a few hours from now. Byron york, chief washington correspondent for the examiner and good morning to you. Good morning. Bill what would be your first question . My first question would actually be about cuba and you know the United States as part of this deal freed at least one person who was convicted of conspiracy to murder in the 1996 cuban government shootdown of a small plane that had a number of anticastro activists. My question, what is the president s message to the families those killed by the cuban government and now being set free. Bill what about north korea . What should he say . What can he say . Well really be watching that very closely because think about, what do we really know about the involvement or noninvolvement of the government of north korea in this . We dont know a lot. Whatever comes from the president s mouth will be the state of u. S. Knowledge about this so well looking for two things. One, what do u. S. Officials actually know about the involvement of north korea or as leland suggested, maybe other countries as well. And the bigger question is, okay, if it has been done by another country, what are we going to do about it . I think that is where the president s cautious nature is going to kick in. I dont really expect him to say anything definitive about that. Bill in 30 minutes you will hear a wellknown hacker been on our show many times. He is an insider and what he says the scarce evid has been made public makes him rather dubious north korea is even involved in this thing. That is entirely possible. A number of people have asked whether north korea is sophisticated enough to do that . The flip side of that, there are people in the United States, who independent, actors who, are sophisticated enough to do Something Like this. So we just dont know. Thats why, really something coming from the president s mouth will be taken as the definitive position of the u. S. Government. So we need to hear from him what the government thinks happened here. Bill byron, thanks. Well be awaiting and watching that. Appreciate it. Out of washington today. Thank you, bill. Martha if they really know what happened here. That is one of the big questions. What would you ask the president at home . Send us a tweet marthamaccallum, billhemmer. What is on your mind. If you had opportunity to ask the president a question before he goes on vacation what would it be . Bill when he comes back he will have a republican majority in the house and senate. Maybe you start there. How will he work with the republicans with newfound power. Do that for us. Martha meantime, Actor George Clooney and bashing sony, much of hollywood, calling them cowards for backing down this face of this massive cyberattack. Clooney circulate ad petition to other hollywood power players urging them to back sony in this and not pull this film and he said he couldnt get one person to sign the petition. He calls this a big blow to the First Amendment and the fallout could change how hollywood works going forward. Adam housley with us, live in los angeles with the latest on this good morning, adam. Reporter yeah, martha. This all came out in an interview in Deadline Hollywood what clooney did about this petition. Went around for a week before he said nobody signed it. He bashes hollywood and people not signing on to back sony. He bashes media but does not question the administration giving them an excuse saying New Territory. Apparently only New Territory for administration. By backing down this will open the door for any group that would threaten freedom of expression. Hopes hackers are brought to justice, until they are, everybody will now stand in fear. We need to stand together. The pascal rudin email exchange of president ball was used as weapon of fear which kept people from defending pascal and sony. He also says in part, quote, we have a new paradigm a new reality. Well have to come to real terms with it all the way down the line. This was a dumb comedy about to come out, with the First Amendment usual not in the protecting jefferson, but usually protecting a guy burning a flag or doing something stupid. This is stupid comedy. This is not just sony but all of us. Meantime our cameras were on the red carpet last night like they are every night in hollywood and other actors are starting to fall in line. We were have the the people awards and other actors spoke out echoing some of the thoughts from George Clooney. Take a listen. I think it sucks that people would have to succumb to anyone who tape rises or really someone into doing something they dont want to do. Reporter meantime a couple other sony employees filed a lawsuit. They join several others about the massive Security Breach saying sony kept information should have been destroyed once they left. One more note, were talking to our sources about this of the as you know there are a number of hightech specialists on the west coast the government uses. They have been saying from the beginning they still believe there is major inside element here. North korea may not be the one completely involved here, bill. I know you have someone coming up later in the hour talking about this. This is what were hearing from the sources that continue to investigate this as we move forward. Back to you in new york. Martha adam, thank you very much. Bill another fox news alert now. The u. S. Military apparently dealing a major blow to isis, killing three of its leaders during airstrikes over northern iraq. John huddy watching from the middle east bureau. John, who are these targets . Reporter bill, as mentioned up with was a top deputy to abu bakir albaghdadi and one is the Top Commander of isis in iraq. A big blow to the major players. Let me bring you up to speed. U. S. Officials say airstrikes between december 3rd and december 9th. Killed a man who was head of isis military operations in iraq and a key deputy to al bag buddy as i mentioned and in late november, another airstrike killed a midlevel commander. Isiss socalled quote, governor in mosul, iraq. According to officials, mosul, iraq, was second largest city captured by isis militants in late june and has been a major battleground since then, bill. Bill john huddy, thanks for that. More details on this later with general jack keane. Thank you, john. Heres martha. Martha the government is broken, that is what 2 3 of americans believe. Well talk to karl rove. Find out what is broken and how to fix it. It is a tall order. Bill also the white house fence jumper cause ad Chain Reaction of skepticism for the secret service. A new panel releasing its findings. What they say the agency need to do to make sure the president , the commanderinchief stays safe. Martha huge story here. Sony caving to threats by canceling the release of the movie, the interview. Is this the first shot in a war threatening free speech . Will they hack and will theytores you to close down . This is the beginning of a cyber war that can go on indefinitely and can really place our First Amendment in danger. The just look at those two. Happy. In love. And saving so much money on their Car Insurance by switching to geico. Well, just look at this setting. Do you have the ring . Oh, helzberg diamonds. Another beautiful setting. Im not crying. Ive just got a bit of sand in my eyes, thats all. Geico. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on Car Insurance. Im keeping my mom healthy keepers, im keeping dad on schedule. 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Latest fox polls, finds 65 of the americans in 2014 say that the government is broken. Karl rove, former white house senior visor to president bush and karl, good morning to you in austin. In the poll they found democrats were not happy, republicans were not happy, and Tea Party Voters the numbers were off the charts, karl. What does that tell you . That is what the election indicated to us. First of all the American People want president obama stopped. They want to stop his excesses, they want to rein him in. Rein in spending and rein in the growth of washington but they also Want Congress to work. They want them to focus on big important things, jobs, economy number one. Want them to focus on bad things in obamacare both parties can fix between now and the time a new president is elected. They Want Congress to operate and focus on things they consider important. That is good news in many respects, republicans particularly in the house have been focusing on things American People care about, jobs, economy, making more opportunity and prosperity available and getting a lot of democrat votes in that process. So if republicans come back at the beginning of the year were likely to see a slew of bills come out of the house of representatives with bigby partisan majority, and head to the senate where they never got a vote before. That will probably do something to help change public perception. Bill if that is the case the next number may influence that. Disapproval of congress right now is at 80 . Quickly, two other points here. Will a republican majority change that number . Well, i think that is going to be the big test. They have the materials there to do that. 130 democrats voted with republicans on a republican bill to stop junk lawsuits in patent cases. Important to hightech. 53 democrats voted to make it permanent that Small Business could immediately expense purchases of software and equipment. That is a good thing. 62 democrats voted in the house with republicans to make the research and Development Tax credit permanent. 32 and 36 democrats voted to make i had easier to invest in Small Business, ban taxes on internet access, government more transparent in rule making, stop epa regulating streams, ponds and ditches as navigable waters. Bill on keystone, look at this, 68 support it. Two questions on this. Is this mcconnells first act in the senate . And remember, he said in late october that he would repeal obamacare with a simple majority vote in the senate based on the rules and how they changed under harry reid. Do you think he will do that . Well, on the first one, keystone, he is likely to do that. He said that in recent days he will bring it up early. There are 63 senators, 63 in the United States senate who voted for keystone xl pipeline or recent Campaign Said they were in favor of it, new members. That is likely to be brought up early. That is not the end of the energy agenda. There are 19 democrats in the house who voted for keystone xl. 17 democrats voted with republicans to make certain no future administration can slow play a project like keystone. 28 democrats voted with republicans to expand exploration in the guff. 46 to expand natural gas exports and 26 to expand infrastructure for transmission of natural gas. All of these show that the republicans and democrats can come together for a big, robust agenda on energy. Mcconnell is smart to start with keystone. Bill you need four more votes to make it veto proof. Well see if there are out in january. At least 6 picks i get it, 63 but on obamacare do you expect a simple majority vote to repeal it . This is using the process called reconciliation. I think the republicans are likely to try and do this. The president will obviously veto it. This will take until april or may. Before you can use reconciliation the house and senate have to pass their budget resolutions. There have to be other things that happen before you can have a repeal vote that simply uses reconciliation. That is how they passed the Affordable Care act in the first place. If you used reconciliation to pass it you can repeal it. Likely take a couple of months to set it up. Because you have to pass a budget resolution in the house and budget resolution in the senate. Take a couple other steps before you can have the vote. Bill very intriguing to watch. Merry christmas, karl. See you soon out of austin, texas. Martha. Martha very interesting things going on in the democratic party. A new push to get Elizabeth Warren to run for president. Why 300 former Obama Staffers signed a petition for Elizabeth Warren. What is going on here . Who is driving the bus . 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This follows a series of highprofile, nerveracking security downfalls at the white house. The pentagon agreed well need a bigger fence. Doug mckelway live in washington with what else they found. Doug some recommendations have been made before, but not really adopted after those decisions were made, right . Reporter thats right, martha. Some made as far as back as Warren Commission following the assassination of president kennedy. May be a condition how insular the agency is and how badly it is in need of new leadership. One tangible recommendation is being made. Calls for a new, taller fence in front of the white house. Two weeks ago, construction workers replacing the old fence bordering Lafayette Park with a new feet but does not appear to be any taller. Pranksters and mentally ill are able to climb the fence causing the secret service to make splitsecond decisions to shoot. Omar gonzalezs, who was deemed mentally fit to stand trial made it deep into the white house carrying a knife. Homeland security secretary jeh johnson ordered the review and agreed with the findings. In my judgment the panels recommendations are astute, thorough and fair. Fundamental change is needed at the secret Service Though they do a remarkable job of protecting the president and first family and other national leaders. Reporter others are calling for a congressionally appointed panel to conduct a topdown review, martha. Martha is that going to happen . Is congress doing an investigation . Reporter they are. The house will conduct a full investigation they claim in the new year. Looking at whether the department of Homeland Security which began overseeing secret service after 9 11 is the right agency to oversee the service because many of the embarassments occurred under the new structure. Martha thanks, doug. Bill a lot of attention this past year. Jumping a fence and there is camera there. Does not look good. Martha that state of affairs, bigger fence, more barricades and all over manhattan after 9 11. Says something about the society we live in. Bill new developments in the ongoing battle over the Washington Redskins team name and the mascot. The fcc is about to say whether it thinks the name should stay or go and what do you think about that . Martha north korean hack attack revealing a weak streak in hollywood . Why some call sonys cavein a blow to our First Amendment rights. They knew this was going on for the last three or four weeks. They should have pushed the date back until late january or february and by that time, they might have found out where the threats were coming from. And they wouldnt have disturbed the christmas season. And the l. Wow [ narrator ] on a mission to get richard to his campbells chunky soup. Its new chunky beerncheese with beef and bacon soup. I love it. And mama loves you. 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Actor George Clooney tried circulating petition among hollywood power brokers to generate support, support sony, let them release the movie, dont back down from the hackers, he said not standings up opens the door to more possible attraction for other companies, for other entities across this country. Says quote, we are not going to give in to a ransom as we watched one group be completely vilified. Nobody stood up, nobody took that stand. Now i say this is a situation where were going to have to come to terms with, a new paradigm, a new way of handling our business. Is he on to something . Juan williams, political analyst and Mary Catherine ham, hotair. Com and fooks news contributor. Welcome to both of you. It is shocking, juan, that George Clooney seems to be a singular voice saying what he is saying. We noticed this, martha, everybody else in hollywood seems to run away. Theyre like big chickens. I dont get it, clooney is exactly right. You can not have a third party censoring your movies. This remind me of the radical islamists say, you cant caricature the prophet mohammed. You cant make documentaries about abuse of muslim women by these extremists like the taliban. Why would we now, we run those documentaries. We saw that is the fact and now you cant run a satirical movie . That is north korea bullying. I think clooney is exactly right. Martha its a great point there was a great editorial in the wall street journal, yesterday, just a small item, that basically said, oh, yeah, hollywood where they make movies about people like Karen Silkwood and whistleblowers and standing up to the big enemy and not being afraid. Man did they run quickly on this one. What do you think is really behind it, Mary Catherine . Yeah, i mean you dont need the government to censor you if youre going to do it yourself at drop of a hat. George clooney is exactly right and i think it is horrifying he went around hollywood, one of the most who powerful people in hollywood and couldnt get anyone to sign on to the thing is frightening. These people routinely pats themselves on the back for moral courage when they take rogue liberal stand and uncontroversial and have no consequences. If you have a chance to stand up for something do it because in the future, north korea, and any other rogue regime will feel like they have veto power over your movie choices. So true. I can not believe people are not willing to stand up for it. Martha other companies sort of, already just pulling the rug out of other projects. Theyre running scared in a big way. I think it sort of touches on another thing here. Because although there was suggestion of a 9 11 attack, of violence which of course nobody wants to see happen in any Movie Theater across this country. However all of our intelligence agencies and Homeland Security said, we dont have any signs of any credible attack. When they tell us that generally about things. We go about our lives and live our lives as planned. The president said, in a not particularly forceful way, i suggest you go to the movies. But i think this is all about peoples other lives. Their email life. Their salaries. The things that they are really concerned about where they live, juan and i think this tells us a lot where our true sensitive, hot spot lies these days. Yes. So you had people i might say you know how they ran away when it comes to George Clooneys resolution. They also then, also when it came to the internal stuff that was revealed from sony, which as you point out, martha, may be the real cache of information here, all the kind of negative comments about obama, about each other, about movie stars, poor salary for female movie stars, that is when everybody, including Oprah Winfrey and all the alisters, said, gee, the news media shouldnt report that stuff. That is a violation. You know what . That is not the bilge issue here. The big issue is censorship. I hope the Obama Administration takes it serious as a threat to us, to our economy, the banking industry, insurance industry, everybody else getting hacked and has retaliation against north korea. Martha i will be interested to hear what the president says at the News Conference. He has a shot at it coming up 1 00 eastern time to really say to the companies, dont be scared. Dont back down. Get out there to do what youre supposed to do. Even if its a dumb movie sort of a slapstick come different i think George Clooney made another good point with this, Mary Catherine. These are the fights you end up fighting. Dershowitz said the same thing. Theyre not necessarily sort of supreme courtworthy issues that get fought over when it comes to this but you have to protect peoples right to speech. You dont give up because its a dumb movie. Were a country that prizes our dumb movies. Thats what were in art about, right . I think these companies should have backing of American Government when it is an attack from foreign entity like this. I hope the president is forceful bit today. This is just frightening that were backing down over Something Like this. By the way, since hollywood is too chicken to sign a petition. I have a petition. Find it at mk hammer, my twitter handle. There is a link to it. Get them to release this movie because it will, dominoes will continue to fall. More movies will be censored. It is not good. Martha youre absolutely right. Juan, tell me what you would like to hear from the president when he comes out here on this. He has to be clear what he means by proportional response. That is the rhetoric were hearing from the white house, i say rhetoric with some consideration because i would like him to make it real as opposed to theoretical. Not always the case whatever response is going to be, that theyre going to use is going to be visible to us in the public but i feel the need to see something that i can hold on to here because this has such consequence for a major american industry and for our culture i think. So, you know, there is fear that the chinese might be involved. You never know if the iranians are involved here, martha. So could be that youre stepping into what could be a huge nest if you will. I understand. That i think there has to be a clear signal that the United States does not allow Major Industries to be beaten up in this way. It is a bad, bad signal to me. Martha Alan Dershowitz suggested, what about banding together . All Film Distribution companies, hollywood entities as well, well all releasing movie. Put it out somewhere. Were share the blame and all in it together. Just put it out there. Should be a nobrainer, right . I think youre right, martha, this is about the emails and George Clooney even said going around these illadvised obama jokes, people were afraid of being aligned with the people made the jokes. Unwilling to stand up against terrorists because of stupid obama jokes. This is really horrible precedent. Martha the that email and about president obama and movies he watches poisoned well. Everybody wanted to put her at big arms length and not touch it. Brilliant piece of manueverring on their part. Really bad news. Martha merry christmas. Watching this story 25 miles west, southwest of new york city. A s. W. A. T. Team rushing into an apartment complex. This is springfield, new jersey. The helicopter there was just told to move back. So there is movement clearly on the ground. Well see whether or not this can be resolved. Not a whole lot of information coming in. Unless we can figure out the s. W. A. T. Van behind the trees and what it is up to, well pass that information. Now the fcc shootings down an attempt to keep the name Washington Redskins off the airwaves . After some people signed a petition seeking to block the teams Radio Station from getting its license renewed, claiming it was broadcasting indecent content by repeatedly using the word redskins. However the fcc says that the teams name does not fall under the lawful definition of profanity. Many nativeamerican groups contract name to be racial slur. Their opinion has not changed. Team owner dan snyder vows not to change. He will keep the name even under mounting pressure. I thought they would lose this battle. The more this goes on the chance they have a chance of keeping it as long as they want. Martha from the backbone of Redskins Team and fan, fell it is traditional and a lot of nativeamerican groups are supportive of the team as well. Stuck to their guns. Well see if it works. Big question, this sony hack weve been talking very passionately about this morning, do we know where it came from . Was it north korea . Why our next guest says it is probably not from the rogue regime directly. So who does he think is behind it. Bill he has very interesting things. Commander taken out by us air strikes. Where are we now in the battle against isis . Iraqi Security Forces must be capable force, one that can restore iraqs sovereign borders. Retake territory from day everybody and secure daesh and secure the iraqi people. Martha troubling new report out there, blaming the federal government is not fully prepared to handle Nuclear Attack on largescale or largescale natural disaster. The audit claims that the government lacks effective coordination and some cases years away making sure there are enough shelters and medical supplies if such a thing were to happen. The report criticizes fema, that the agency is not staying on top of Planning Efforts even in the wake of superstorm sandy. Not good news. This is wakeup call. If they can wreak that kind of havoc in the entertainment industry, then youve got to worry that where else their reach is how much of a wakeup call is it really . That is Arizona Republican jeff flake on the sonys not releasing the movie. North Korean Leader kim jongun is assassinated at end of the movie. That is strengthens the hackers fueling more attacks in the future. Fbi is trying to find out who is behind it. My next guest is dubious about all that i just said. He is a Computer Security expert, certified ethical hacker and computer forensic investigator. Vinnie, good to have you back on our program. Good morning to you there in saint luis. Thank you. Bill take it point by point. You think the connection between north korea and sony is dubious at best. Why . At best. The only, remote shred of evidence exists at this point the malware used within, that was associated with the sony attack was calling back to an ip address in north korea. Now the problem with this evidence is that, the malware wasnt unique to the sony job. The malware was actually recycled and purchased somewhere else. So it is very possible this call back to a north korean ip address was something already in the script. I mean we really have no way of knowing. Bill just to be clear on this and wall street journal is reporting that, a single link was traced back to north korea. How many links could there be in Something Like this . Right. I mean, its impossible to say. There could be a number of sort of call home signals. But i mean the point is, for Something Like this there is really no reason for a piece of malware to call home. I mean intent is to steal and distribute. The pieces dont, they just dont add up. I mean so to look at really, to sort of grind into where this piece of malware, where this virus came from, i mean it is very obvious it wasnt specific to this job and so bill why are they, are you talking about hundreds of links or thousands or even more than that . Givegive me a sense of. To be honest it varies per piece of malware. For Something Like this there shouldnt have been any. Possible it was even used for Something Else all together. Bill why are they blaming north korea . What makes sense to you, vinnie . I think that in the event that this turns out to be, either a disgruntled employee or inside job, there is so much attention around this right now, they need, somebody needs to point the finger at somebody else. So it is easy to point the finger at north korea and say, this is an attack because of the movie but, realistically, if i was, if i was the person, you know committing this crime, it wouldnt take anything for me to write a note, put it out there, get everybody completely freaked out about it. All of sudden attention is on north korea and away from the real criminal. Bill to pull this off, you mentioned an insider. Would it have to be inside job, someone who truly understands the system . There are so much volume of information that came from sony, that it would, be almost impossible for this to occur completely from the outside. Were talking about emails, financial records, passwords, password keys. There is so much of it. Somebody knew exactly what to get and where to get it. Bill this could be someone ticked off at company for any number of reasons . Maybe the movie had something to do with it, maybe it did not at all . Right. If this was me perpetrating attack i would look for the best possible scapegoat and in this case, people suspected north korea from the beginning for whatever reason. Even a few weeks ago the fbi came out and said there is no credible link to north korea at all. They seem to be changing their tune i think the movie was canceled and there was so much heat and need to point the finger quickly. Bill vinnie, one more question on personal level, should we worry about our own Company Email . Should we worry about our Bank Accounts . Do you think this is that significant that weve gone to a new level of hacking on this story . You know, its, we definitely gone to a new level of data breach. But, you know, we actually learned just a few days ago that there is fbi hacker informant named sabu, who came out and said sony had vulnerabilities present for six years and never did anything to fix them. Unfortunately a lot of companies are falling down this path, they have the mentality this will not happen to me and i can put it off. So from that perspective there is absolutely something to worry about. Companies need to wise up. Bill were out of time. Thank you. Well bring you back. Vinnie troya out of st. Louis. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Martha very interesting stuff. All right, so some bigtime obama supporters urging massachusetts senator Elizabeth Warren to get in, get into this race for 2016. So will she do it . And is the obama machine trying to keep hillary out of the race . Were going to talk about that coming up. Plus we have this beautiful midtown day. Look at that right around the corner from us, beautiful ornaments piled up in christmas display. What they say everybody, time to come on home. Bill sing it. Vo you get used to pet odors in your car. You think it smells fine, but your passengers smell this. 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This is getting very interesting. Oh, yes it is, martha. Martha because obviously Hillary Clinton appears to believe that, you know, this is her right. That she has the right to have the nomination of her party but president obama spoked to people at moveon. Org, that sported him in the beginning are supporting Elizabeth Warren. They apparently are and putting up a Million Dollars behind their own effort. I find it particularly telling that 300 former Obama Staffers signed an open letter encouraging Elizabeth Warren to run. I have been in the white house. I know how these things work. Hard for me that the president or Valerie Jarrett didnt get a chance to pass on it before the public announcement was made. Martha you think they made effort to speak to the president or Valerie Jarrett as you put it, well backing Elizabeth Warren 100 of the way. Were not going with Hillary Clinton despite the president has said tacitly and explicitly that he thinks hillary would make a good president. There has been a long history of animosity between both clintons and both obamas. Klein reported on it in his book. There is evidence everywhere. I dont know what he believes but i do know this. If the president didnt want the 300 former staffers to sign an open letter he could have shut it down in a nanosecond and martha, he didnt. Martha he didnt. Not at all. Not at all. Martha very interesting. It is. Martha so he is allowing the big fundraising arms not to put their money towards hillary . Right. He has done nothing through his surrogates to discourage it. When Elizabeth Warren herself has been asked, she says im not running for president. They then ask her would you discourage these groups, democracy for america, moveon. Org . And she says, im not running for president. And they say, well is that ever . She says im not running for president. As obama said in 2007, when tim russert asked him, that was then. This is now. She could turn on a dime. Given the events of last week, martha, i would make the argument she is inching in the direction of throwing her hat in the ring. Martha certainly looks like it. It does. Martha as you could say, take me off the website. Dont, steer ire money toward Hillary Clinton. Dont steer it toward me. She is clearly not saying that. Look at numbers. She has a long haul if she wants to take a run at this and cause some problems for Hillary Clinton who is currently at 62 among selfidentified democrats. Warren at 12 . But as i remember, around the same time, president obama was about in the same position. Yes he was. There is Something Else. She has a compelling message. She has a message to rein in the banks. She has a message to deal with income inequality and she could and certainly her supporters already do, make the case that hillary is the senator, the secretary from goldman sachs. Martha well, yeah. That is going to be their argument. She has the new car smell. Yes, she does. I take that as, again, tacit encouragement of her to run, absolutely, martha. Martha we love intrigue behind all these stories. Thank you for sharing it with us, doug, thank you very much. Thank you, martha. Could be a very interesting day today. President obama facing reporters this afternoon. The sony hack, cuba. Executive outreach and overreach. What would you ask the president . Thats what were asking today. Did you see epic farewell to Stephen Colbert . Whoa, check it out. Thanks for taking some of your rapidly dwindling time on earth to be with me. Ive been sitting here two minutes or 200 years. I cant tell difference anymore. Martha fox news alert, as the u. S. Finds compelling evidence that someone helped north korea launch the cyber warfare attack against Sony Pictures, the sophisticated nature of the cyber assault which forced sony to cancel the release of a comedy pointing to several north korean allies united in mutual animosity against america, all of whom have a lot of experience in cyber warfare and who have been working on it for some time. Brand new hour of americas newsroom, im martha maccallum. Bill and im bill hemmer. The hackers leaving tracks leading back to several hostile nations, or so we are told. North korea, china, iran, russia. Team fox coverage this hour, Chris Stirewalt on the implications for the white house. But we begin with Catherine Herridge in washington and the latest on this cyber attack is what, catherine . Good morning. Reporter well, thank you, bill, and good morning. The Obama Administration is still weighing its response to the cyber attack on sony with a member of the house Homeland Security committee who oversees cyber investigations telling fox friends that the u. S. Has to find the right balance. One of the key things you have is a discussion of proportionality and the recognition that any kind of acts have potential to escalate. And you also need to appreciate whats the motives behind a place like north korea . How much credibility do we give them in the world if we overreact . Reporter an intelligence source also tells fox news that the evidence does not point to north korea as the sole entity responsible for the attack, but rather, a main player with support from an outside party. Outside party is really code for either iran, russia or china, bill. Bill what are we learning about the attack and how it worked, catherine . What are those details . Reporter well, the forensic evidence suggests the final stage of the attack was launched outside north koreas borders, the New York Times reports a hotel and university were used. This is called in intelligence circles a cutout and creates some plausible deniability. Yesterday the president of the Homeland Security secretary told people the administration wasnt ready to name names. The u. S. Government is taking this attack very seriously. Its an attack on a company, its employees and, frankly, the freedoms we enjoy in this country. Reporter fox news was told that u. S. Security firms were first notified monday by the u. S. Government that they plan to publicly blame north korea, but this is completely inconsistent with past practice where the u. S. Government has chosen to work behind the scenes to have some sort of response to an event like bill thats interesting. Wonder why that is . Reporter they have not come out because theres certainly a disconnect between what the security firms happened and at least the government leaks that it was north korea solely responsible. Bill thank you, catherine. Catherine herridge in washington. Be. Martha as you know, president obamas going to hold a News Conference shortly before departing on his 17day vacation in hawaii which is his tradition with his family, and there are a lot of issues that the president will no doubt be asked about at this News Conference. And the bombshell agreement with cuba this week, also the cyber attack against sony and what the real white house response is going to be. Chris stirewalt joins me now, so no doubt, i think youre going to hear a lot of questions today about the white houses response which has been very tepid so far in terms of what they really think should happen with this sony situation, chris. Well, for a president and an administration that have highly prized and long prietzed as a political operation the desire the control messages and dominate news cycles even in 15 or 20minute increments, really trying to stay ahead of the game, for these folks and for the president himself the fact that this sony hack and north koreas activities have come to dominate the discussion in a week the president was hoping, i think, for a pivot to his new policy visavis the castro regime in cuba, i think that its going to complicate his bid to get out of town a little bit. Martha yeah. You know, i think so far he has not had a very strong response to it. He said, you know, basically he still thinks everybody should go to the movies, but he has not called on these companies to band together to fight this, and it potentially opens the door to a lot more of these situations and also raises the question, chris, how well prepared are we . How well prepared is the government . You hear about the nsa being in sort of everybodys computer, which they would deny, but if they are, they sure dont seem to know whats going on here. Well, certainly part of the reason is probably that the insufficiency of our capabilities to deal with and respond to these kinds of things in this brave new world, thats probably a big part of it. Another big part of it, though, would seem to be this so the United States when it comes to how to deal with the castro brothers, when it comes to how to deal with Bashar Al Assad in syria, when it comes to dealing with vladimir putin, the preference has tended to be to deescalate, to lay back for this president. The idea of confronting and coming out and saying what the president s critics say he should to nay which is we are to north korea which is we are not going to let any tin horn dictators dictate anything to the president , to the United States, and the president would tweet it out with his feet up watching this movie while he was doing it. Thats what the critics want, but its not the administrations policy. Martha they could say its any of these bad actors or any hackers here at home. We dont back down to this stuff, we stand for free speech, and its as simple as that. Give me the other highlights that you think, in terms of cuba what do you think the questions are going to be . Well, the president , im sure, has crafted im sure his Communications Office has carefully crafted a list of reporters on whom to call, and theyd better be calling on some ed henry if they want some really good questions. [laughter] but that having been said martha hell probably just stand up and ask one anyway, knowing ed. [laughter] exactly. Theyre going to run the gamut. I expect we think of these press conferences as sort of taking the trash to the curb, right . Theres a lot of stuff the president needs to address. He needs to get on the record with things that are uncomfortable and not suitable for touchyfeely interviews with people magazine. Hes got to get some stuff out on the record. Remember, escalating war in iraq, continuing war in afghanistan, ongoing troubles as it relates to russia and all of those things. The president needs to get on the record with those things. He also very much needs to talk about whats going on with health care, the economy and all of those things. So you are going to see a rapid fire, this laundry list of issues that the president s going to go through. But the big bomb, i will guarantee you, outside of Foreign Policy will relate to immigration and what he says and what the questions are. Martha merry christmas. Bill ed henry just tweeted that stirewalt was right, he should be called on. [laughter] bill seven minutes past. Speaking of cuba now, new reaction to the stunning shift in american Foreign Policy there. People living under dictatorship for 350 years face 50 years. Critics are slamming the president for basically giving away the store, they say. All these negotiations with rau wiewl castro. This president has to be the worst negotiator weve ever had, and he has betrayed betrayed those cubans that have worked so hard and have sacrificed so much for the freedom and liberty of the island. Bill steve harrigans live in havana, cuba. Reporter bill, one of the mysteries so far between this agreement is the role, if any, played by fidel castro. The last time he was actually seen in public was almost a year ago here in havana. He was visibly frail and walking with a cane. The longtime opponent of any reconciliation with the u. S. Really is a question now because theres been no reaction from fidel either publicly or in print. So speculation again beginning to buzz that the 88yearold may be incapacitated. In the meantime, as cubans continue to celebrate the move towards reconciliation with the u. S. , we are learning more about one of the key chips in the deal. The 52yearold cuban spy was released for three cuban spies. According to u. S. Intelligence officials, this was the man who wrote the codes for cuban spies in the u. S. He showed the how the cubans were communicating with that haa through ham radio codes. Hes been called one of the most valuable assets. His family here says hes disappeared from prison, they dont know where he is, but they hope hes safe. Back to you. Bill watching history unfold in havana, cuba. Martha . Martha so will a thawing relationship with cuba mean the convicted cop killer hiding in havana will now come back and face the rest of her prison term . The victims family would like to know the answer to that question. There wasnt any doubt in the jurys mind, there wasnt any doubt in the judges mind, and theres definitely not any doubt in Law Enforcements mind. New Jersey State Police will not give up on catching her. Martha big story in all of this. Former nypd Police Commissioner is here with his take on the chances of that happening. Bill also a devastating fire ripping through an Apartment Building during the heart of rush hour. Where this happened. Martha and the white president s using executive action far less than his predecessors. Coming under new scrutiny, is the number actually far higher and does it matter what you call it . Im slightly confused. You said executive orders are quite sweeping. Doesnt that make the point usa today was trying to make that no matter what you call it, its kind of misleading people about how often hes using executive action . Its the purple pill, the 1 prescribed acid blocking brand, available without a prescription for frequent heartburn. Get complete protection. Nexium level protection™ hello. Im an idaho potato farmer and our big idaho potato truck is still missing. So my buddy here is going to help me find it. Here we go. Woo who, woah, woah, woah. Its out there somewhere spreading the word about americas favorite potatoes heart healthy idaho potatoes and the american heart associations go red for women campaign. If you see it i hope youll let us know. Always look for the grown in idaho seal. Bill firefighters in new york city battling a massive blaze during a peak rush hour out of this Apartment Building in queens. The smoke causing a nearby subway station to be evacuated which also created delays for the commute. More than 160 firefighters respond. No injuries and no immediate word of cause for that blaze. Martha so a new chapter in u. S. Registrations with cuba relations with cuba raising hopes of closing an old wound. Authorities are still hopeful that havana will extradite convicted Police Killer joanne chesimard. In 1973 she gunned down westerner forester in cold blood during a traffic stop, and she was sentenced by a jury to life in this prison for that murder. But she escaped. In 1979. And fled to cuba. Her fugitive status landing her on the fbis most wanted terrorist list, shes first woman on that list, and she is on that list today. Her presence in cuba was hardly kept under wraps, fidel castro stuck up for her in 2005 calling washingtons portrayal of her as a terrorist, quote, an infamous lie. So all these years later, will foresters family finally get the justice that they seek in the killer of their Family Member . Bernard carak is a former commissioner of the new york police department, and he joins me now. It seems to me if youve got somebody on a most wanted, the fbis most wanted terrorist list, that you would have wanted to discuss that as part of any deal to normalize relations with cuba, but theres no sign that that happened, is there . Well, we havent heard about it. When things like this go on, theres a lot that you wont hear, a lot of back door discussion cans. But i would hope discussions. But i would hope that the state department, that the fbi, that the Justice Department was counseling the president , talking to the president when he was making these decisions. Because chesimards not the only one. You have willie morales, the mommer bomber that bombed a number of facilities in new york city, you have charlie hill who killed a trooper in, i think, new mexico, state trooper. And theres a bunch of fugitives that are hiding out there. But you have some really violent, violent people that fled there, have been there for decades, and they have to come back here to serve their time. Martha and no doubt the families of these victims have been asking for a long time for these people to be extradited. You know, whats the response . Has this administration ever given them any feedback on what their feeling is about her case in particular . Nothing that we know of. We have tried for years, rick fuentes, whos the state Police Superintendent today, he actually worked on case 30 years ago. Trying to get her out of cuba. You know, hopefully theres going to be so much pressure put on the cuban government that she has to come back here. My fear is that she knows this is coming. All of them, they know this is coming. If cuba opens up, i know a whole bunch of state troopers from new jersey thatll volunteer to go grab her. So, you know, my fear is she tries to go somewhere else in the meantime, you know, to get away from this. Martha you mentioned a case of Susan Rosenberg who was pardoned by bill clinton, and a lot of people felt that that was an unjust decision. Is there concern that any of these people would be pardoned given what they have already been convicted of . Theres a lot of rhetoric on social media right now that chesimard and some of these others should be pardoned and just leave them alone. One, she murdered a new jersey state trooper in cold blood, she shot another. She was involved in the shooting of another. She escaped from a new jersey state prison. Shes been on the lam for more than 30 years. Okay, she should be held accountable for her crime. And brought back here. I would, i would find it horrific if the administration pardoned her. I dont think the president would do that. I i martha you would i would hop. Martha in the meantime, i guess everybody should make their feelings known about this case, because it is the window has opened for the possibility of these people being returned and serving out, in her case, the rest of her term which she was sentenced to by a jury. So we hope that everybody makes their feelings known on this, and well see where we get. Bernie kerik, thank you very much. Bill congratulations on your book too, thank you, bernie. Its being called a big blow to isis, taking out some of the terror groups top leaders while an American General says it will be three years before isis can be advantage wished. General jack keane next on that. Plus, this starstudded goodbye for Stephen Colbert. Can you spot all the famous faces that showed up in this thing . When we come back. [cheers and applause] bill is this a turning point in the battle against isis . The pentagon saying u. S. Airstrikes have killed several top terror leaders in iraq over the past three weeks including the righthand man of isis. A defense official also saying u. S. And Coalition Partners have carried out 1300 airstrikes between iraq and syria in this operation. Were seeing initial successes in this fight. My assessment is that were transitioning to the defense and attempting to hold what they currently have. That is Lieutenant General james terry, and my next guest knows him well. Jack keane, fox news military analyst. How are you, general . Good morning to you. Good morning to you, bill. Bill are we Getting Better . Is it a question of time . Yeah, we are Getting Better. General jim terry, as you said, hes really an outstanding officer. Hes knotts over hes not overstating the case. Isis has not taken New Territory in weeks and, in fact, we have retaken some territory ourselves. Isis is still attacking in iraq, to be sure, and this week theyre attacking in three different places, mostly in Anbar Province and also in baji, but they have not taken territory. So as a result of that, the airstrikes have had some Significant Impact here. The other thing thats enabled us to retake territory, bill, is the isf, but thats in name only. The isf thats retaken territory is actually the shia militia that were trained and influenced by iran and actually some of their advisers are on the ground with them. That is not good news in terms of irans influence inside iraq. Bill a lot of people predicted that, too, as you know. Is there a big difference between battling isis in iraq as opposed to taking them on in syria, general . Yeah, there really is. In both cases we have weak hands in terms of indigenous forces. In syria its most pronounced because its the Free Syrian Army, and the Free Syrian Army not only has to deal with isis, but its being shellacked by assads regime. Mostly its air power which is pounding it. And the fact that we will not take on on the regime as our allies in the region are urging us to do that is turkey, saudi arabia, united emirates and qatar as well as jordan all want us to take on assad regimes military power. We have made a policy decision not to do that and to fight isis only. I think that has been a bad decision. Its has longterm strategic it has longterm strategic implications making the fight in syria much more challenging as a result of it. Because the forces that were trying to assist are being killed every day. Bill you also mentioned general terry here. He says its going to take at least three years or longer to defeat isis. Did you agree with that assessment . And if its taking three years plus, what does that group look like then . Well, i agree with the assessment, but i dont think it has to take three years. The reason the generals accurate is because were applying the minimal amount of assistance to the iraqi Security Forces, and weve got to reconstitute the visions that were collapsed. Were not providing the amount of advisers to do that, were not putting advisers with the companies and battalions, and were just beginning to do something about the sunni tribes. Even when we stand up the capability, i dont believe its anywhere near what we could be providing. So this is a weak happened in iraq weak hand in iraq on the ground indigenous forces, and we could make that considerably stronger if we put more resources into mening them. Im not into helping them. Im not talking about Ground Combat troops. Bill thats a commander in chief decision though, general. It is. Terry is ex ex all hes doings telling you this is what i can do with the resources that ive been given, and those resource decisions are made in the white house, not in the pentagon. In the past the way we run military operations is that guys in the pentagon and in the field decide what the resources are that are required. In this case the white house made those decisions. Bill general, thank you for your time. Jack keane there in washington. Appreciate it. Good talking to you, bill. Bill you too. Martha . Martha some critics blasting the latest white house shift in Foreign Policy as it considers a response to the sony hack attack. What theyve just done on cuba, among other things, its a weak presidency, and i think those that have the cyber capability will use it. This is a serious threat given our dependence on the internet. We have got to do more both defensively and offensively. Martha this time the target was a movie studio. So what are the options to keep this kind of thing from getting elsewhere . Bill and this is a live look at times square, christmas time in the city. Martha get out there is get out there and enjoy it. Martha fox news alert, president obama getting ready to face reporters in his end of the year News Conference. The president will likely face questions on everything from the sony hack attack to the cuba agreement to tensions with russia and also how he plans to deal with the Republicancontrolled Congress that hes going to come back to work with. Then tonight the president will head the hawaii with his family as he always does for a 17day vacation which sounds lovely. Bill sure does. Go golfing. The white house working to come up with an appropriate response as it investigates this cyber attack targeting Sony Pictures. Ambassador john bolton talking about the options with greta on the record here. If we can conclude it was north korea, we need to put them back on the list of state sponsors of terror, and we need to put all the economic sanctions back in place. If you treat this simply as an inconvenience, other countries will conclude that they can attack and get away with it. And particularly with this administration what theyve just done on cuba, among other things, its a weak presidency, and i think those that have the cyber capability will use it. Bill were going to hear more about this today. Gillian turner now, the former white house National Security Council Staff member serving under president bush and a Fox News Contributor. I how are you . Good morning to you, gillian. You say cyber time your words now is the foremost threat to American Well being. Wow. How . Well, what i mean by that is that really the face of contemporary terrorist organizations are cyber criminals. They are, you know, organizations whether in the private or Public Sector overseas of our adversaries that, you know, target us in ways like the sony attack that we saw yesterday. Bill so sony has a problem on its hands, and its been documented now that they knew they had issues and did not do anything about it. Where are you on that . Yeah. I mean, by all accounts it seems that sony is an example of a company that, you know, whose cybersecurity protocols are very weak. They needed an overhaul. So im sort of hopeful that this will serve as a reminder, as a cautionary tale to other companies that its time to really take cybersecurity seriously as a threat. Bill but its sony that pulled the film. The government didnt pull the film. And who knows the real reason why. Some believe they were just trying to protect themselves from more emails going public because it has hindered their business significantly, gillian. Yeah. And i would argue thats sonys sort of foremost soaknys sort of sonys sort of foremost interest here. Their interest is to protect their Financial Assets as well as their financial interests. And, you know, its really not sonys job to step in and take on cyber terrorists and, you know, institute protection for american citizens in Movie Theaters. I think that here we really need the u. S. Government to step in and help manage the response. If Something Like this happens in the future which it will you know, these private sector corporations are not left out, you know, to float around in the wind. Bill thats an interesting point, but how would the Public Sector work with the private sector on this . Well, i my premise here is that robust private Public Sector cooperation is really needed to face down this threat. Ideally what would happen in a situation like this is the u. S. Government Intelligence Community would gather intelligence warning of a pending attack such as this one, they would in turn share this information with the administration, and then the government would in turn share that with sony or whichever company is the target of the attack so they could Work Together to design and implement an appropriate deterrent, whether thats development of malware or some other mechanism. Bill then maybe we hear some of that on the president. Quickly, did you think this is really north korea . I mean, whats your gut tell you . Personally, my gut tells me it is, indeed, north korea. But were hearing from some cyber experts this morning saying that, you know, precisely identifying these sort of cyber fingerprints is a very difficult thing to do, and it takes some time. The administration feels confident that they have the all the information that they need in order to, you know, identify north korea as the source. But at the end of day, the difficulty there is you have to determine exactly whose hand struck the keyboard at very precise moments in time, and thats difficult. Bill and the wall street journal says there is one link in all of this, just one that trails back to north korea. So more on this. Gillian turner, thank you for your time out of washington today. Appreciate it. Thanks, bill. Martha a new twist in the immigration debate. Republicans say the Obama Administration is now trying to fast track citizenship for about eight million people. Why . They say to try and create instant democratic voters. Or at least that is the allegation. That kind of allegations been around some time when it comes to the idea of immigration and who would turn into voters for which party. William la jeunesse is live from our west coast newsroom with more on this today. Hey, william. Reporter martha, almost 20 years after the Clinton Administration tried to register a million new democratic voters, some without documents or background check, republicans fear its happening again to impact the next election. It must be clear from the outset that there is a pathway to citizenship. Reporter the obamastration d plans to turn legal immigrants those with green cards into u. S. Citizens, for the first time letting them pay filing fees by credit card and reducing or even completely waiving the cost. To bring them into the full fold of society, make sure that they are assimilating, learning english, learning their civics and becoming u. S. Citizens is good for us as a country. Reporter some conservatives see another agenda. Theyre using our money for political means to their 2016 path to victory in their minds. Reporter a Media Campaign will promote english learning in ten states home to 75 of all legal immigrants and 239 electoral votes, nearly enough to claim the presidency. The goal is to naturalize as many as they can with the idea of registering them to vote with the hope that theyre going to vote democratic as they did in the 1996 election. Reporter in 96 congress uncovered an effort by the Clinton Administration to increase democratic turnout by registering new citizens who were rushed through the process with incomplete files and no background checks. Today a majority of eligible immigrants are from latin america and asia. In 2012 70 of hispanics voted democratic, 60 among asians. If republican candidates want asian, latino voters to come to them, they have to compete for them. Reporter obama officials argue the new Americans Program is an economic winner for all, but politically republicans fear the program, martha, will turn red states to blue. Back to you. Martha william, thank you. Bill so Stephen Colbert signing off on a final episode of the colbert report, using a word that he pretty much invented. [laughter] truthiness is all those things people say i did running for president , safing the olympics, the rally to restore sanity and or fear and or cat stevens career [laughter] none of that was really me. You, the nation, did all of that. I Just Got Paid for it. [laughter] from the beginning of my show, it was my goal to live up to name of this network, influence central. [laughter] and if all we achieved over the last nine years was to come into your home each night and help you make a difficult day a little bit better, man, what a waste. Laugh. [applause] nation, i want you to know if i had to do it all again, if i could do it with you, i would do it the same. [cheers and applause] martha colbert bidding farewell to his audience by singing well meet again, joined by colleague jon stewart. Well meet again, dont know where, dont know when [cheers and applause] bill randy newman on piano, right . Martha yep. Bill no low key affair to go out on. Martha the whos who of celebrities from politics, willie nelson, katie couric and even the cookie monster showed up for that whole thing. Just like you always do. The dark clouds far away. Bill nicely done. Next up, the late show on cbs when he takes over for david letterman. Itll be very interesting. Martha going to be very interesting. Bill the late night wars going to come back in a martha what are woe going to do without steven out there poking fun at us all the time . One of my favorite lines at the end he goes, that was fun. That was a fun nine years and a lot of creativity, and we look forward to bill i wonder what he sounds like when hes not in character. I guess well have to martha yeah. Youll seement i think its going to be very similar but very different at the same time. So were looking forward to it. Congratulations to stephen. We look forward to the late night show coming up as well. So you turn to your doctor for medical advice, now new questions about tvs dr. Oz and what hes telling everybody to do. Bill also president obama making record use of executive power to enact major change. So does it make any difference whether you call it an order or a memorandum . Ed henry . Executive orders, therefore, are more sweeping and often more impactful. But in the case of immigration, which you would acknowledge was pretty seeping, it was a sweeping, it was a president ial memorandum, not an executive order. Thats correct. Reporter so by your definition, im slightly confused. [ man ] i remember when i wouldnt give a little cut a second thought. When i didnt worry about the hepatitis c in my blood. When i didnt think twice about where i left my razor. [ male announcer ] hep c is a serious disease. Take action now. Go to hepc. Com or call 1844444hepc to find out how you and your doctor can take the next step towards a cure. Because the answers you need, may be closer than they appear. Wow [ narrator ] on a mission to get richard to his campbells chunky soup. Its new chunky beerncheese with beef and bacon soup. I love it. And mama loves you. Bill more information right now on whats happening here. A federal Law Enforcement official telling fox news the fbi will release a Statement Today blaming north korea for that cyber attack against Sony Pictures right before president obama begins his press conference, thats 1 30 eastern time. The statement will not call out china for the alleged role that it had in helping the north korean government carry out the attack. So expect that in about three hours time here on fox. Martha some critics have been blasting president obamas record of using executive actions, many of them leading to legal challenges. The white house claiming the president really doesnt issue that many executive orders, but what about something called president ial memorandums . Listen to this. There is an important difference between executive orders and president ial memorandums. Reporter what do you see as that distinction . Big picture, what is the difference . Generally speaking, president ial memorandums are associated with more technical issues and are often directives that are related to a subset of agencies. Executive orders, therefore, are more sweeping and often more impactful. Reporter but in the case of immigration, which you would acknowledge was pretty sweeping, it was a president ial memorandum, not an executive order. Thats correct. Reporter so by your definition, im slightly confused. Doesnt that make the point that usa today was trying to make, no matter what you call it, he was kind of misleading people about how often hes using can no, the president s predecessors hav issued for more exfive orders executive orders than the president has. Martha guy penson, julie roginsky, both are fox news contribute canners. You know, you look at that, its like what difference does it make, but the point is, julie, the president has been very outspoken about the fact that he has not done a lot more executive orders than the oh president s other president s, but when you add up the numbers including memoranda, its all the same things, correct . Its nonsense. Listen, i appreciate josh earnests very value grant attempt to draw a valiant attempt to draw a distinction, but the reality is he has used more president ial memoranda, and out really is the same thing. You could argue about whether both sides of the aisle have used, bush really took a lot of advantage of the socalled signing statements that he made. Essentially using them as a line item veto. Look, any president , i dont care if theyre republican or democrat, is going to push their authority as much as they can to get as much done as they possibly can. By the way, i dont necessarily agree with it, but thats what martha yeah. Thats what they do. They do. And what we heard from josh earnest is just heavy duty parsing. Theyre playing the semantics game. The question is about power. Frankly, i dont really care if theyre playing a numbers game. What is more important to examine is the legality and the propriety and the impact of these executive actions. And i think we should look at a quote from barack obama himself as a candidate in 2008. I wrote it down so i got it correct. He said the biggest problems were facing right now have to do with george bush trying to bring more and more power into the executive branch and not go through congress. Thats not them ran do memoranda, action, whatever, thats power, and its clear martha i think that is, julie, what people have found offensive in some ways. And thats that the president ran on this platform of being very transparent, of being open, offing being a different kind of change and hope presidency where things werent going to be done in a circumventing way around the people and the law to get things done. Are you telling me, shockingly, absolute power corrupts absolutely . [laughter] as i said, yes, guys absolutely right. The president also campaigned very strongly against the socalled use of the signing statements that i alluded to earlier that george bush really took advantage of. And then, of course, he martha does that disappoint you . It doesnt because im not naive. Ive never dunk the koolaid and believe drunk the koolaid and ever believe that martha could ever make change. Its not even that. When youre beginning that kind of authority, that kind of power, youre going to push the limits of it, i dont care who you are. Martha they do use this argument, guy, well, we had to, right . We wanted to do things for the American People, and the republicans wouldnt let us do that. I mean, that could have been joshs answer. He could have been like, yeah, we do things for different categories, but the truth is that the president has tried to do as much as he could to move forward with the agenda that right. The hadto excuse. I had jokingly referred to the getting stuff done clause of the constitution which doesnt exist. The American People have elected a government that is divideed. Itll be even more divided come january, and i think for the president to prove forward with this immigration plan but to do it in such a way that he himself repeatedly said he couldnt do, thats a question i hope hes asked today at 1 30 whether by ed henry or anyone else sitting there. Please, ask the question of the president , read his own quotes, i cannot do this, its not appropriate, i dont have the authority. And now hes done it. Why . What changed . Martha well see. Thank you, julie, guy. Merry christmas. Martha you too. Well see you soon. Have a great one. Will 11 minutes before the author. Eric shawns in for jon scott. Eric hi, bill and martha. President obama will be holding hiss first president ial News Conference since the day after the democrats sing stinging defeat in the midterms. Expected to be asked about everything from immigration to cuba and north korea, the sony hacking to the end of open enrollment you should obamacare. We will, of course, have Fox News Team coverage and indepth analysis, and well have that News Conference for you live in a few hours there now. Bill eric, thank you. See you top of the hour. New signs of life on mars, earthlings. New evidence from the red planet, but what does it mean . Will that be all, sir . Thank you. Ordering chinese food is a very predictable experience. I order b14. I get b14. No surprises. Buying business internet, on the other hand, can be a roller coaster White Knuckle thrill ride. Youre promised one speed. But do you consistently get it . You do with comcast business. And often even more. Its reliable. Just like kung pao fish. Thank you, ping. Reliably fast internet starts at 89. 95 a month. Comcast business. Built for business. Bill we made the is studio look really important for our next guest. Is there life on mars . The curiosity rover has detected these organic molecules in the red planets soil, but were wondering what it means. Corey powell from Discover Magazine is here to answer that. How are you, sir . The big news is what, what did it find . Curiosity found methane gas on mars, its basically swamp mars. Where it came from is the big question. Methane gas can come from bill cows . It can definitely come from cows. It can come from geoare thermal activity yee yo thermal geothermal activity. I wish i could tell you we know its life. Bill because it is, what, its organic, right . Its an organic molecule. We dont know yet where it comes from. Were trying to figure this out using a remotecontrolled robot, so its a difficult thing. Finding the meth their tell methane tells you theres something going on there. Bill organic does not necessarily mean this is alive, right . Exactly. Methane gas is something that shouldnt be there, so the fact that its there tells you something act you have is happening active is happening. Thats the next thing we want to figure out. Bill how do you figure that out . Well, this is a kind of methane gas that life on earth makes, and theres another, theres a European Mission coming in 2018 and another mars rover coming in 2020. Theyre going to have much more sophisticated instruments that are going to try to give you the answers so it can come back and say, yes, we found life, which is what you want to hear. Bill cut to the chase, life or not . And, you know, its frustrating to have to say maybe. Right now were getting closer. Like i said, were trying to do remote science in a very difficult way. If you could bring a sample back home, thats the ultimate goal, bring some mars samples back home, then you can get an answer. And maybe there will be people on mars and definitely life on mars. Bill elon musk is all over that. Thank you, corey. Weve got all the stuff out here for you today. Its like being on mars. [laughter] bill sometimes we do feel that way, dont we, martha . Martha quite often, actually. Its being called the first cyber war america has been in, so what is president obamas response to the hacking that has brought sony to a standstill . The president expected to face questions on that at a big News Conference that happens before he heads off for the holidays. Were also expected to hear more about the deal renewing relations with cue da. Cuba. Coming up when we come back. Bill so. Martha here we are. Bill with eight seconds to go. Have a great weekend. Martha have a wonderful weekend. Get all the shopping done over the weekend. Stick around. The president coming up at 1 00. Bye, everybody. Heather were starting out with a fox news alert. Were waiting for president obamas yearend News Conference and one big question. Will the white house take a harder line against north korea . After of the cyberattack targeted Sony Pictures . Welcome to happening now. Im Heather Nauert in for jenna lee. Eric good morning, heather. Goodgood morning, everyone, im eric shawn in for jon scott. The president will take questions two hours from now at 1 30 p. M. In the white house before leaves for a twoweek vacation in hawaii. The last time he held a fullfledged News Conference, was after the u. S. Voters gave a defeat to the democratic pty