Good evening, jason. Still no word on possible motive and the shooter has not yet been identified, though there are reports tonight that she is 3540 years old and lives in Southern California. The man who she was apparently targeting remains in Critical Condition tonight after being shot in the lower body. His name and position at youtube are not being released. But the police chief is crediting his fellow employees with some heroic action. Listen to him. They identified one victim at the front door, main entrance of the building. They checked on that person, and youtube employees, to their credit, helped us by standing by with that person so the officers could immediately enter to go search for the threat. Youtube employee is coming to their credit, helped us by standing by with that person so the officers could immediately enter to go search for the threat. Within minutes, because as a very large building, we found what we were searching after that. A very large building. Its 200,000 square feet of 1700 employees. After entering the headquarters, police say the shooter was found in a room with a selfinflicted gunshot wound. For now, the working theory is the female shooter began firing outside and then made her way into the building and this witness supports that scenario. Watch. Weve heard like, boom, boom. I ran to the window because it was over the patio and i saw her. Its a woman and she was firing her gun and i just said, shooter, and everybody started running. Another female was shot in the ankle but ran into a nearby carls jr. Restaurant where the employees apparently gave her some much needed aid. A fourth victim sprained her ankle running away from the gunfire. The ceo of youtube tweeting, quoting here, there are no words to describe how horrible it was to have an active shooter at youtube today. Our deepest gratitude to Law Enforcement and First Responders for their rapid response. Our hearts go out to those injured and impacted today. We will come together to heal as a family. Youll recall it was just a few weeks ago that in the wake of the shooting of parkland, florida, youtube banned firearm sales and howto gun videos. There will likely be ample Surveillance Video of the shooting in the days and weeks ahead. Jason we love those First Responders. They do an amazing job. Now for an eyewitness account, lets go to claudia cowan, who is live from the site of the shooting in san bruno, california. Good evening to you, jason. More on those First Responders. When the 911 calls for started coming in, right around 12 45 local time, the response by police and other First Responders and ambulances was absolutely massive. In fact, Law Enforcement was on scene here at youtube headquarters within minutes. And immediately saw people running for their lives. Officers evacuated the building and went doortodoor to make sure there were no other shooters and to find all the victims. Witnesses described the chaos on the sound of rapid gunfire, which they say came in several bursts. Man, it was two or three shots. And then, like, within 30 seconds after that or 40 seconds after that, she was running out and she was shot in the leg. The other people that were behind me, they opened the door to let her in, pulled her in. So i come in. I check on the girl. Is she all right . Yeah, yeah, she got shot in the leg. I ran back over there and im looking inside, and im looking, and the other guy goes, she just shot the other person. And that person got shot ten times. We know a 37yearold man is listed in Critical Condition at San Francisco general hospital. Two other gunshot victims are listed in fair and serious conditions. A lot of witnesses are very shaken and they will need time to recover as well. This area is no stranger to tragedy. In 2010, a major underground gas pipeline exploded, and incident left eight people died. Now san bruno is reeling from an active shooter incident. The violent and tragic results of what we are being told was a domestic dispute. Back to you, jason. Jason thanks, claudia. Be sure to stay tuned to fox news for all the latest details on the story. Well monitor any developments and bring them to you as they come. Big news coming out of washington on multiple stories today. President trump says hell send the military to secure the border with mexico. Also, the special counsel reportedly tells Trump Legal Team that the president is not a criminal target in the russia probe. Could this whole sordid mess finally be winding down . Plus, trump accuses amazon. Com of unfairly driving Retail Stores out of business. Well talk to a reporter who was blowing the whistle on a brandnew National Security scandal for democrats. You dont want to miss the story. But we begin with a number of important new developments on illegal immigration. Beginning with that possible deployment of troops on the border. Fox news chief National Correspondent ed henry brings us up to speed with the latest from the white house. Jason, great to see you tonight, the president had already been ramping up the rhetoric on illegal immigration in the last couple of days as that caravan makes its way through central america, through mexico toward the u. S. Border. But tonight, he is trying to back it up with actually dramatic action. Declaring he wants to send u. S. Military to secure the southern border until that wall is built. The president today convening a meeting at the white house with defense secretary, other top cabinet officials to say that in the absence of action by congress, he wants executive action to crackdown on illegal immigration, drugs, violent gangs, coming from mexico and elsewhere. Tonight, white house officials are making clear that the president is talking about mobilizing the National Guard to secure the southern border. Active duty military is prohibited by law by getting involved in domestic Law Enforcement. That distinction seemed to be lost on a lot of democrats and people in the media today, watch. It is a dangerous thing to do to put u. S. Military forces on the border with an ally like that. This is not a country where u. S. Military force is used on the streets of this country. I would rather have the dealings of immigration be handled in a civil context and not a military one. Not mentioned is that that president barack obama did something similar in 2010, as george w. Bush did in 2006. 2010, the Obama Administration sent 1200 National Guard troops to the southern border. Bush administration, something similar. Basically sent about 6,000 members of the National Guard. They were focused on road and fence building, transportation, logistics, not direct interdiction. What the president seemed to be saying today is that he may be looking at a more aggressive approach, where the National Guard takes a more direct Law Enforcement role. Plus a senior official is telling us tonight the number of National Guard troops will be substantial, suggesting a larger number than ever before. I told mexico, i respect what they did, i said, look, your laws are very powerful, your laws are very strong. We have very bad laws for our border. We are going to be doing some things. Ive been speaking with general mattis. We will be doing things militarily. Until we can have a wall and proper security, well be guarding our border with the military. Thats a big step. We really havent done that before, certainly not very much before. Former mexican president vicente fox firing back on twitter. To militarize the southern border is to provoke more hate, distance, even further between our nations. Somebody has to talk some sense into him. He is elevating his hate toward mexico causing a greater conflict. As for the current mexican administration, they had their ambassador specifically ask the white house officially today for clarification on the president s remarks, we are told by white house officials that the president s Homeland Securitys secretary is in contact with the Mexican Government to lay it all out. Jason thanks. Joining us to discuss the to these developments is Monica Crowley and enrique, a founder of border angels, advocacy for illegal immigrants. Thank you, both for joining us tonight. Enrique, i want to start with you. You hate that this president wants to secure the border and put up a wall, lock it down. That is not something you want to see, is it . First of all, i dont represent illegal anybody. These are human beings. I, like most of the people in this country, do not support trumps agenda of hate. The border is already militarized. Theres already a wall that covers a third of the border. Its led to 11,000 deaths. Donald trump is a person totally out of touch with reality. I really support i was really encouraged when i heard someone saying that he has little hands. I dont know where she was going with that. Hes a very dangerous man. Hes incompetent and the whole world is saying, what happened to the United States . Jason enrique, lets go back to your first point. People that cross the border illegally are here illegally, correct . Yeah, but they are not illegal immigrant. There is no such thing as an illegal human being. Jason if they are here illegally, enshrined in the law, it says they are an illegal alien. Three fifths of the human being, those jason i never used that word. You didnt, jason. Jason if they come here illegal, they are here illegally, they are illegal. They are not illegal human beings, they committed an illegal act. Jason oh, my goodness. Monica, is the president doing the right thing here . Locking down the borders, getting rid of the rewards and incentives and making sure that people dont flow here illegally. Of course hes doing the right thing. This is one of the primary reasons why donald trump is currently the president of the United States. Hugely unpopular. The most unpopular president. Jason more popular than Hillary Clinton. Enrique, do you believe he is the president of the United States . Donald trump is a person that was not elected by the majority. Jason wait a second, get a grip on reality. Is donald trump the president of the United States . Duly elected . Donald trump does not have a grip on reality. Jason he is not the duly elected president of United States . No wonder you think its okay to come across the border illegally. I dont think that. Jason okay, monica. Enrique, lets go to some rational thoughts. Go ahead, monica. Okay, jason, how refreshing to have an american commander in chief who means what he says, says what he means, and is willing to enforce americas immigration laws and enforce the border. This is one of the big reasons why he is president. We have had president s on both sides of the aisle who have refused for many decades to do that. We either are a nation built on the rule of law and are interested in protecting our own sovereignty or were not. Donald trump stood up and said, americas borders are worth enforcing. The American People, the american taxpayer, the american worker, are worth defending. And i in fact im going to do it. This man has now issued two warnings. He issued the warning on the caravan to say unless mexico stops, i may in fact revoke nafta. Im going to take other action, for the u. S. Military in the form of the National Guard. Jason theres one other subject i want to get to. One of the things im concerned about, 2016, more than 100,000 minors have crossed that border illegally and then they have been released and given out literally, given over to criminal gangs, and who knows who else out there. Does that bother you, enrique, that we are taking minors and putting them in the custody of someone we have never vetted. You are saying they are putting their minors in the hands of criminal gangs . Who are the criminal gangs . Jason ms13. Most of the people that applied for asylum and that showed up at the u. S. Border did not get it. Those that did get it were turned over to family relatives, not ms13. Jason the number is 107,000 people. Theres fox and then theres facts. Jason no, no. Enrique, you are so offbase. You do a lot better than that. Jason i gave you since specific facts. 107,000 people have been turned over as minors and we dont know who these people are. You said they are criminal gangs. Jason that is one of the groups. They were turned over to family members. Jason monica enrique, most people live in a different planet. Enrique most dont want to come here. Jason monica, shed some light to people on why 100,000 kids are given into the arms of who knows who. Thats right. Its not just the children, although the children are useful tools for those who want to continue to see illegal immigration go forward because its an emotional play. Its an emotional draw on the hearts of their generous americans. They try to shade it in shades of gray when actually its shades of black and white. This country is very generous. We want people to come here but we want them to do it the right way, whether theyre children or whether theyre adults. There is a Legal Process in place for a country built on the rule of law. Every country in the world as a rule of law. Name one that doesnt. Youre comparing the United States with north korea . Try getting in and out of north korea, good luck with that. We are going to have a meeting trump is having a meeting with vladimir putin. Heres an important point, enrique. In the years 2015 and 2016, mexico actually deported roughly twice the number of Central Americans out of the country than the United States did. So mexico is very interested in enforcing their borders and enforcing their every country is. Name a country thats not. The United States for a long time actually wasnt because the republicans the democrats want to vote ultimately. Jason hey, enrique excuse me, we have an american president who is interested in protecting our sovereignty and the rule of law. Hes being ridiculed all over the world. Hes a very dangerous man. That is what he is so unpopular. Jason enrique, youve had more than your opportunity to say what you want to say. Listen, enrique some of the United States is the greatest country in the face of the planet. They are not trying to break out of the United States and get into mexico. We have to leave it there. Thank you both are being here tonight. Meanwhile, immigration and Customs Enforcement officers are using a new tactic to get around the lack of cooperation by local authorities in california sanctuary cities. Instead of going into these cities, officers are coming into communities and farm fields to apprehend illegal immigrants, even those without criminal records. Acting i. C. E. Director Thomas Hellman says his hand was forced by sanctuary policies and that it would be nonsensical to demand that i. C. E. Solely focus on criminals. Lets discuss this change with claude arnold, former special agent in charge for i. C. E. At Homeland Security investigation in irvine, california. We thank you for being here. Thank you for your service in serving our country. Why the change . Why not just focus on the criminals . Theres plenty of that. Why they change . Thank you for the invitation to be on the show. People are characterizing it as a change but in actuality, its not a change. Its returning things back to the status quo, the way they were prior to the Obama Administration. It was the practice of i. C. E. , when they were out looking for the priorities, and priorities are and should be criminal aliens, but when they are out looking for these priority targets, if they run into someone who is here illegally, they are not going to turn a blind eye. Now they were restricted from doing that by policies under the Obama Administration. So basically what President Trump has done is take away those policies to return it to how it was with president bush and all the president s before that, at least in the 27 years that i was serving. Jason ive been out of the i. C. E. Officers. They do an amazing job. They do it in a very delicate way, but a very difficult way, dealing with some very hardened criminals. People dont care because they are not citizens of this country. Some are comparing them to the nazi germany. Look at this montage. I want to have you react to it. We are standing in front of a building that has become the headquarters for the gestapo of the United States of america. Do you hear the echoes of history here . 100 . I think there is we cannot let this happen. Its our responsibility. What was done to us cannot happen to other people. Agents are getting on trains and going through the trains and spotting people and saying, what is your citizenship. Jason that first group was actually democratic members of congress. How do i. C. E. Officers react when they see that type of attitude from members of congress from the democratic side of the aisle . We are the executive branch of government. We enforce the laws that are as they are written on the books. So as law enforcers, our response to members of congress, if you dont think the laws are just, youre the ones who make the laws, then change the laws. We just enforce the laws as they are written. Jason you are right. The first two years that i was in congress, democrats at the house and senate and the presidency, they did not bring up a bill. I set on the immigration subcommittee, they did not introduce a bill, let alone have a hearing or try to move a piece of legislation. Really quickly, only got about 30 seconds left. More than 100,000 children, people under the age of 18, come to this country illegally and then they are handed over to somebody that has not been vetted. How do we deal with that . Any time we identify vulnerabilities that are exploited in the law, we had something very similar in the early 90s with the asylum, where people automatically got Work Authorization if they applied for asylum. And they were released from custody. There was a statutory fix. It was being exploited by people with frivolous asylum claims. This is very similar situation. People know that they will be released, so there needs to be a statutory change. Jason listen, if people are naive, if they dont think there is a major, major Human Trafficking problem going on down at the border. Thank you for your service, thank you to all the i. C. E. Officers out there, the men and women doing a very tough job. Thank you. Could the Mueller Probe be winding down . Well tell you why next. Winding down . We use our phones and computers the same way these days. So why do we pay to have a phone connected when were already paying for internet . Shouldnt it all just be one thing . Thats why Xfinity Mobile comes with your internet. You can get up to 5 lines of talk and text included at no extra cost. So all you pay for is data. See how you could save 400 or more a year. Plus, for a limited time, get a 250 prepaid card when you buy any new samsung. Xfinity mobile. Its a new kind of network designed to save you money. Click, call, or visit an xfinity store today. Jason the big question after the latest bombshell revelation in the russia investigation is how will President Trump react. We now know that Deputy Attorney general Rod Rosenstein specifically authorized a special prosecutor to investigate Paul Manafort for potential collusion with russia or ukraine. That information was in a partly redacted and formerly secret government memo filed in court by special prosecutor bob mueller late last night. Lets examine the implications of this latest revelation with republican congressman sean duffy of wisconsin and Washington Attorney and democratic strategist, scott bolden. Republican congressman john duffy of wisconsin and scott, i want to go to you first. Do you think that this is really justified . Physical in the right direction . What in the world with ukraine have to do with the russia collusion on the election of 2016 . As a former prosecutor and someone who defended people in the clinton investigations, let me just say this, not only think is going in the right direction, but if the republicans who have authorized it. Not just rosenstein but the original order that was given to mueller for his investigation was to investigate collusion or coordination between these parties, either before or after the Mueller Investigation. Rosenstein, even under the code of federal investigations, they are just following where the evidence takes them. Jason i want to go to the graphic. The original letter that Rod Rosenstein sent to mueller authorizing his investigation, there are three points to this. If we can put it up on the screen. Number two on this point is any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation and congressman duffy, i was pleased and honored to serve with you in the United States congress. But point number two says that any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation, theres a lot of things that would suggest that maybe the democrats were the ones that were actually colluding. Do you see any evidence that mueller is actually pursuing that part of this investigation . Jason, it was a pleasure serving with you as well. You bring a good point. I was a prosecutor as well. The charge that mueller received was to investigate collusion or involvement of russia and the 2016 election, which means they can look at donald trump but they can also look at Hillary Clinton. The only evidence that weve had come out publicly in regard to collusion is the fact that Hillary Clinton and the dnc colluded through fusion gps and Christopher Steele with russia. They paid russian informants with double, triple, quadruple hearsay to craft a dossier that the fbi used to go after donald trump. If you want to look at russia collusion and russian influence, you got to look Hillary Clinton and what they did in crafting the dirty dossier. For all intents and purposes, it doesnt appear that mueller is looking at the Hillary Clinton campaign. Jason scott, do you think the congressman has a point . Do you see the evidence of my frustration from the republicans are saying, how come the pursuit of justice is only in one direction . Its a one way street . Why not look at what the congressman just said . Jason, it is not a oneway street. It is incomparable. The meetings, all the information, the guilty pleas that have come out of the Mueller Investigation jason they have nothing to do with collusion. They have a direct mandate to look at the coordination between russia and the trump campaign. Let me get Hillary Clinton because the republicans love to jump on and jumped back to Hillary Clinton. Do you think Hillary Clinton ought to be investigated . The republicans were on the house, senate, and white house. Two congressman, one senator and congressman, sent a letter to doj to Jeff Sessions asking them to investigate. If they dont investigate, that means either there is nothing there or they are too busy focusing on the other part jason you do see that there was more than 10 million that went out the door there. Sorry, congressman duffy, go ahead. Thats because you have partisan hacks at the head of the doj and fbi. That is why ive called for a special counsel to look at the partisanship. And it has been rejected. I think all americans will say, what involvement did russia have in the elections . Im on the same page. We want to find that out. Lets not do it in a partisan way. Lets not just look at donald trump. There is a lot of smoke and i think there is fire to look at Hillary Clinton, as well. If you only look at one side of this issue are not the other, that is why there are so many republicans feeling like its a partisan investigation. I do believe this. I deeply believe that if mueller finds information, whether its a smoke, fire, evidence, facts, that Hillary Clinton somehow coordinated, notwithstanding the conjecture of what the congressman thinks, i think hes got the authority to look at it or to ask rosenstein we know for a fact that Hillary Clinton paid russia to develop this dirty dossier that was used against donald trump. Thats just not true. Theres 10 million we should look at Hillary Clinton. Jason i think scott actually brings up a good point. I do believe that scott brings a bigger point. You have four key senators out there, you have trey gowdy, Bob Goodlatte, two chairman of the house, calling for a special prosecutor. Jim jordan and mark meadows have been calling this for months. And they still wont do it. I got to tell you, to people on the right side of the aisle, it is a mystery because it does seem like its a oneway street. I am not afraid of it. I dont think the democrats should be. Let the investigation run its course. You do understand this point very well. Jason, you are the chairman of investigations and the oversight committee. When you tried to get information from the fbi and doj, did they cooperate with you . Did they provide the evidence that you asked for as and empowered individual in congress, to do oversight . They dont provide it to the intelligence community, they dont provide it to Bob Goodlatte and the judiciary committees. They are not cooperating even with our investigations, which makes you scratch your head and say, what are they trying to hide from the American People and congress . Jason i want to give you the last word, scott. I want you to consider this. It is a closed investigation. There have been subpoenas in place since 2016 and still the department of justice will not open up the files on a closed case. I would think that you, you are very accomplished and a reasonable person, would understand how patently unfair it is to their pursuit of justice and oversight to not turn over those documents and allow congressmen on both sides of the aisle to review those documents. Let me tell you this. I dont know whether its fair or reasonable but i dont know why the republicans are bragging or complaining because you have control of all three houses. By the way, congressman and senators have a lot of levers to pull. You could hold them in contempt, you can impeach them, you can force them to train these documents over, you can go to court to do it. Republicans just simply have not on edge. Are you bragging or complaining . Jason gentlemen, i got to leave it there. This is not a situation i appreciate you joining us tonight. Thank you very much. Good seeing you. Jason President Trumps war with one of the Richest Companies in the world is quickly going to defcon 1. Well tell you why he thinks amazon has an unfair advantage next. This. Is. Lobsterfest. At red lobster with exciting new dishes like dueling lobster tails and lobster truffle mac cheese. Classics like lobster lovers dream are here too. So enjoy these 10 lobsterlicious dishes while you can because lobsterfest wont last. Im allbusiness when i, travel. Even when i travel. For leisure. So i go national, where i can choose any available upgrade in the aisle without starting any conversations or paying any upcharges. What can i say . Control suits me. Go national. Go like a pro. Jason President Trump is on the warpath against amazon. Com, blasting my company and five tweets over the past five days. At a press Conference Today he explained why he thinks the company has some unfair advantages over its competitors. The post office is losing billions of dollars of my taxpayers are paying for that money because it delivers packages for amazon at a variable low cost way the other thing is, a lot of Retail Businesses all over the country are going out of business. So thats a different problem. Its a big problem. If you look at the cost that we are subsidizing, we are giving a subsidy to amazon and we are talking about billions of dollars a year. Amazon is going to have to pay much more money to the post office. There is no doubt about that. Jason trump is also scorched amazon Ceo Jeff Bezos for negative coverage of the administration and the Washington Post, which he also owns. Lets discuss the president s accusations with Republican NationalCommittee Woman from california and radio talk show host and political analyst. Thank you for being here. I want to go out with you first. This just seems to be a personal feud, to put it lightly, between the president and jeff bezos. Is that the root of everything that is going on here . Does the president have a strong point to make on the unfair advantages the president says that amazon has . I think both are true. Clearly the president is irked at the unfair coverage he gets with the Washington Post. There are some serious issues with the United StatesPostal Service. Its had the same real estat estates rates and allocation of expenses to the Package Delivery part of its business since 2007. Its really way overdue for an adjustment. Back in 2007 as we all know, we did not have such a dependence on mail order as we do today and amazons business was a mere fraction of what it is today. And one of the problems the president is facing is that he has nominated four members of the Postal Regulatory Commission but they are being held up in the senate along with a number of other nominees. If you got those people in place, a, hed be able to have adjustment of those rates and some sizing of those rates, so there is some subsidy going on whether one more point. We could look at the pension issue. The reason that the Postal Service wants a negative and a deficit is because it has to prepay its pension for 75 years worth of benefits. Jason you are 100 worth right on that. I spent a lot of time on the postal issue, the decline in first class mail, the pension issues, a big thing. Heres the take that comes from the dallas morning news. If we put up this graphic here and the headline. Trump can attack amazon but americans will keep buying what bezos is selling. Does the president have a good point . I dont think its an either or. I think the president is an error for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that the post office was never created to make a profit, any more than a Police Department or a Fire Department is in business to make a profit. Theyve always been subsidized by the government so that businesses and american citizens can have their mail delivered at a subsidized and reasonable price. I think hes got a line there. Number two, this is a personal issue with the president. Hes upset of the washington most post and he is going after amazon. Jason do you think the only reason the president that jeff bezos bought the Washington Post why he has a lot of holdings braided today personally, not through amazon. Why do you think jeff bezos bought, of all the papers, the Washington Post . You will not get me to defend that. Trust me, ive made statements about that issue myself that i am not thrilled with jeff bezos owning the Washington Post. However, i think its disingenuous to say that he has a problem with billionaires owning media outlets. I think he only has a problem when they are critical of him. Jason does he have a good point there . I dont think thats fair. I think it is a valid concern and there is a perception as the president mentioned, by conglomerates, not just amazon, there are other big conglomerates, google is another one, dominating the market and taking away business from momandpop shops at the retail store level. On the other hand, as abamazon user myself, i really value the convenience. I think all of us can be adjusted by getting his nominees in place at the Postal Regulatory Commission and then adjusting some of those rates here and there. Making sure that its fair for everybody. Jason i want to put up this graphic, play this sound from the former budget director for ronald reagan. I think hes right about amazon for the wrong reason. It is a predatory monster that is destroying value, jobs, businesses, assets, all over america. From your perspective, at what point does amazon become too big or too powerful, the antitrust issues we should be looking at . I think its reasonable to look at antitrust issues. The other part of it is, this is the nature of where the internet is going, and there is a different economy that we are living in. I dont think that amazon is the only problem that we have. To be honest with you, i have to start with criticizing the recent tax bill the republicans put through and say that is contributing to inequality. Jason the American People have their own money in their own wallets . Whats wrong with that . Jeff bezos got a 2 billion tax increase. I dont think most of us got 2 billion decrease. Jason im telling you, the average person have a significant impact. What do you see happening with the tax question in california . One of the highest tax rates in the country. The tax reform package, you think that is what one of the problems is . I think it contributed to inequality by a large portion. Jason we got to wrap up but what is your take on it . I dont think so. I value the democratization of everybodys approach to being able to buy products. Every hour, every minute i save and buying products on the internet this time that i can spent back in my business. There are two sides of this coin. Finally, these companies have been paying their taxes now, amazon pays its sales taxes, and so it is fair. We have to look at some regulation, whether using excessive power to stifle competition, that is a specific example. Overall i think its a good thing. Jason thank you both for being here. I appreciate it. Thank you for the discussion and have a good evening. Even some of the president s supporters are concerned that he is about to make a serious mistake overseas. Well tell you what has many military experts so worried, coming up next. Litary experts s, coming up next. Jason President Trump campaigned on a vow to keep america from getting too involved in foreign entanglement. Now he wants to make good on that promise in syria. I want to get out. I want to bring our troops back home. I want to start rebuilding our nation. We will have, as of three months ago, 7 trillion in the middle east over the last 17 years. We get nothing, nothing out of it. Jason a number of military analysts worry that would create a vacuum and repeat the same mistakes they say president obama made in iraq. Lets discuss that with former green beret and congressional kanltd candidate michael walz, and former army malt police sergeant, chris thank you so much for being here. I want to know that michael walt was a Fox News Contributor but now he is a candidate for congress, hes not but he still joining us tonight. Chris, i want to start with you. I think the president s heart is in the right place. Is it a smart move to telegraph to the enemy that we will bring our troops out . Jason, i dont think he is telegraphing. I think its a jab. He is throwing out a jab to throw out a trial balloon. Certainly the president doesnt think we should be spending endlessly over there. I think that many of the experts, many of which i respect, they didnt get it on the post war iraq right, so the president doesnt want us to be endlessly there. Weve knocked out over 80, 90 of isis, so hes trying to rebalance and get our allies to pay their fair share as well. Jason is the president doing the right thing . Will he bring all the troops home now . I think you put it well. His heart is in the right place in terms of lets finish this thing and get to the soldiers home. Three things are going to happen if we pull out now. Its too soon. The president was absolutely right to take the restrictive focus on annihilating isis. If we pull out now, one, we will see isis 3. 0. The same conditions that are there that lead to isis from al qaeda will lead to isis 3. 0. Number two, our allies that we have been so reliant on on the ground, that have allowed us to only have 2,000 troops on the ground, the kurds and the arabs, will get annihilated. If we do have isis reconstitute and start a attacking europe in the United States again, it will have a heck of a time getting them to trust us. Three, well essentially abandon the region to iran. Jason but michael, that would go on in perpetuity. To meet those conditions, will we be there forever . Weve been in germany, weve been in japan, weve been in south korea, we still have 25,000 troops in japan. Unfortunately this president , like with south korea, is going to have to clean up the messes that obama left him after eight years of essentially turning his back completely on the region and its going to take longer. Its just too soon at this point. He is right, and getting our allies to pay up and to pony up and we ought to look at what bush 41 did in the first gulf war, where he had germany, japan and the gulf allies contributing jason the president has done huge work to get the allies to pay for nato. He absolutely should do this. Jason chris, under what conditions, when do you bring the troops home . I dont think its going to happen overnight. The president is signaling he wants to see more support from those in the region. Its tough work. Many of those who served in iraq and afghanistan lost eyes, lost legs, fighting wars where the post war reconstruction order did not work. He is holding up assets in syria. I think ultimately the president will galvanize other supporters to come to the table. Its a chess match. I think he is smart and some of our senior advisors dont give him the credit he deserves. Its chess. Weve got to get other allies, i think mr. Bolden is going to have the president s ear. Well have a good plan going forward. We cant endlessly pay and do all of the work ourselves without having others help us out. It wont be like iraq. The president is sending those expectations. Jason michael, it should be a simple question but i think it is one of the most difficult questions. What is victory . What is victory in afghanistan and what is victory in syria and dealing with isis . Jason, that is a broader question. What is victory against islamic extremism . That is really what we are dealing with. I think we are dealing with how to be undermined and defeat an ideology, much like we undermined and defeated the ideology of communism. Syria, iraq, afghanistan, those are the battlefields of this modern, but i think is going to be a generational war, to undermine that ideology because we are dealing with brainwashing and religion, just as it took those other battlefields and 60, 70 years to defeat the ideology of communism. That is really what we are looking at. What is victory look like . What it looks like is when you have women marching in tehran and riyadh and damascus and where women thrive in Civil Society and women thrive in politics. You dont see an extremist problem. That is what we are dealing with. We are in a global war against islamic extremism. These are just but a series of battlefields that we have two win. Jason chris, what is victory . When you are talking to a 20yearold who is going into battle, leaving his loved ones, his family behind, to go serve the United States overseas, how do you explain to that young soldier or whoever it might be and his family, what is victory and what when do you get to that point where you have actually become victorious . Thats a great question, jason. For one, weve got to things right at the v. A. But thats a whole another thing. Weve got to get better, they have to see the doctors in a timely manner. Victory, to see the attacks diminish, isis cant function and influence governments over there and when our allies come together with us and have a broad coalition, u. S. Forces, its always damned if you do, damned if you dont. Thats just the truth in the middle east. The victories we have we have to secure by having the Coalition Governments we install doing their fair share and taking control of their future. Its a tough question to answer but thats what i submit. Jason the spirit of america is unlike anything else in the world and you see it first and foremost with United States military. I thank you both for your service and contributions. Thank you tonight. You wont hear about that on other networks. We will tell you the shocking details in a story that is becoming a major scandal for democrats coming up next. Majorr democrats coming up jason a story that hasnt received much attention from the Mainstream Media is a major National Security scandal for house democrats. 44 democrats employed a number of Pakistani Nationals as internet technicians who are now under investigation for allegedly gaining unauthorized access to congressional data, including classified information. The latest revelation amazingly, democrats apparently exempted those employees from background checks, didnt even check their background. One reporter has been doing great work digging up the shocking details. Hes joining us now. He is from the daily caller. I got to tell you, youve done great work on this. Give us the synopsis of what is happening. You have 44 democrats, including Debbie Wasserman schultz, the head of the dccc, and they brought these Pakistani National in and they just let them into the system and didnt bother to give a background check. The house policy says if you will give someone super user permissions on the house network, meaning they can read all of the members emails, you got to do a background check. They hired this guy and his brother, and soon they brought another relatives, too. These guys had criminal records, they had a dozen lawsuits, they had ties to foreign officials, and they never even check their backgrounds. What happened next is the house Inspector General found that they made unauthorized access to house data. In other words, congress was hacked. You never heard about this. This is a shocking revelation. Jason theres missing hardware. Three of these people were on the house intelligence committee, democrats from the house, on the house intelligence committee. And this guy and his brother, i believe got fired from mcdonalds for goodness sakes. He was making like 165,000 a year from congress and he couldnt hold a job at mcdonalds, did i read that right . These are the democrats that are lecturing us about cyber security. They basically brought the fox into the henhouse and the worst happened. Congress was hacked. We heard more about the hacks of panera bread and under armour in the last week then we have ever heard about this congressional thing. That is because breakfast muffins and underwear take cybersecurity more seriously than house democrats. That is what we are learning. Jason well said. Not only did they get in there but they were in there for a long time. This is not something that just happened in a couple days. How long can this go on . Imran awan started working for them in 2004. By the end of it in 2016, his whole family was on board, working for house democrats. They could read all of those emails. This is something that the democrats basically covered up. They actually let them stay on the network for four months after the Inspector General informed them of unauthorized access being made. You have to think that it comes back to the narrative for democrats. They dont care about hacking. They have this russia thing, it was an Inconvenient Truth that congress was hacked by pakistanis at the same time. They withheld it from the public and there was a lot of coverups in the 2016 election but this is the most successful one. Jason they were traveling overseas, too . At one point, he goes overseas and he comes back. Where does this case go from here . Authorities are on top of the supposedly but we never hear anything about it. Where is it going now . Congress falsely called a theft case. The Inspector General said it was about data going off the network. Prosecutor started surveilling this guy, and he wired 300,000 to pakistan and tried to flee the country. Prosecutors wound up charging him with moving that money overseas. That basically seems like its pretextual charges and their next court date is going to be may 4th. Well see if they will have the real charges but if they dont, this is a cover up, full stop. Its pretty hard to take democrats seriously with their fundraising group, the dnc. Thats all it is, a fundraising group, that was hacked. They talk about it nonstop. But we are talking about on the house side, their official u. S. Government offices, over a long period of time. Jason the daily caller has a great story on this. If you want to read all the details. This is truly a National Security scandal. Then one of the things that happened is they got access to the personal emails as well. Youve done a great reporting on this, keep it up, i look forward to reading more from you. I appreciate it. When we return, what is bringing senator tim scott and Representative Trey Gowdy together . We will tell you after this. Representative trey gowdy together . We will tell you after jason i just want to give a shoutout to my friends and former colleague senator tim scott and trey gowdy. They have a new book out unified be sure to check it out. They gave me a copy today when they were in here. There are a lot of questions about members of congress. But people with two of the greatest bits of integrity are tim scott and trey gowdy. And they are very Close Friends and i think you will find this book illuminating. I have had a great time filling in for Laura Ingraham these past two evenings. So be sure to follow me via twitter, jason in the house. Just in the fox house now. Id love to hear what you thought about tonights show. The fox news at night team are up next. Shannon, take it away. Shannon we are glad you are in the fox house too, jason. I am shannon bream. This is fox news night. We are covering breaking news across the nation. We have top government officials from Southern California on the brink of defying the state and its sanctuary state policy. Texas attorney general ken paxton will talk about sending the National Guard to the border as a caravan of migrants marches through mexico. We will go live to youtube headquarters for the latest on the shooting mystery there. We begin with a revelation in the special counsel investigation into suspected russian interference in the 2016 president ial election. Could come as a surprise to many of the opponents of the president who have insisted on a narrative of collusion with the