There is an illegal alien busted for drunk driving, should he be deported to mexico. Should they be deported . I think what we have to do is think about abolishing ice and creating something else. Tucker how about answering the question . What was the question again . Tucker should an illegal alien busted for drunk driving be deported . Thats too vague of a question. The criminal Justice System deals with crime. Tucker is a very specific question. The criminal Justice System h tucker immigration for a living, im asking what do you think we should do . We are remaking its a revolution. Lets get rid of ice, okay. So what are the new rules . Im here illegally, i get busted for dui. Should i be deported . Very simple. Immigration law is very complicated. That person could have an asylum claim. They can have many different types of reasons why they might be able to stay in the United States. R beyond their dui. The criminal Justice System can handle crimes. American citizens commit crimes and they go to jail. Tucker but no one should deport illegal aliens who commit crimes. I think of ms13 or any gang member violently commits a crime, kills someone, they should spend the rest of their life in prison. [inaudible] tucker if you think hes a member of ms13 and you think hes are here illegally, thats not enough to deport them . We will exacerbate the problem. They come over there and then people come back. The logic that we need to see. We can exacerbate a problem. Tucker its americas fault, we created it. I am for abolishing ice because its been undermining american values. Its been tearing apart families. This is not who we are. But while i say that we need to abolish ice, i am still for strong borders and we still have customs and border patrol. We still have limited and humane Immigration Enforcement in this country. Lets remember, i said something that is only been here if i might. Ice has been here for 15 years, ice has been here for 15 years, its a 15 year experiment. Prior to that we were able to enforce our immigration laws humanely and in a limited way. We need to get back. Tucker the ice question little more deeply, is there something immoral about the ice employees . A lot of democrats have compared them to nazis do you think they are bad people . Thats absurd. Tucker ice carries out the laws passed by the congress. You want to serve in the congress but you are not calling, i notice, for different laws. You are saying you want to get rid of this one specific agency but keep other agencies to patrol the border and some limited way. What is specifically wrong with ice . There something wrong with the people there. Ice going on buses and asking for papers. Ice going to schools and churches and taking people off the street. The other day tucker why do you think they are doing that . Thats the point. We created the standalone agency. Tucker im here to learn from you. You want to get rid of them, but why do you think they are doing this stuff . Fr ice is out of hand in its approach in terms of how before when we had enforcement we had an agency tucker you may not, because you already have. Ve i want you to answer this question, which is, why do you think they are that way . You think they are doing horrible things, why you think theyre doing those horrible things . Its been an agency set up solely around enforcement rather than set up in 2003 rather than an agency set up both to govern and enforce immigration rules in this country. We are a country of immigrants. T now we are at this moment tucker maybe its my fault for wanting specific answers, what does that mean . Its a law Enforcement Agency that shouldnt just enforce laws. Take for example what we had before. Help me here. Help me understand your position i do want to apologize. Tucker other than enforcehe the law, which of those things be . The way we had it before under inf, Something Like that. We can enforce their immigration laws through another mechanism,k not ice. Out of hand. Tucker whats wrong with ice . Im trying. Im trying if you are ever in washington, call me. I would love to hear more about this because im soo confused. Thank you for coming on, i appreciate that. Tucker the incoming president of mexico is a leftwing populist who repeatedly said on the campaign trail that the population of the world has an absolute right to move to america and americath hs an obligation to let all of theh in. We spoke to univision anchor jorge ramose just before the mexican election. Tucker tell me a little more about this right of all the people in the world to come to the United States. Where does that right come from . Let me just say right at the beginning, i dont speak for the Mexican Government or any other president ial candidates. But ahead of the polls right now. Hes reaching almost 50 . Hes a leftist candidate. And what he has said is that hes vowing to be a president for the 130 million mexicans in mexico and for about the 12 million mexicans here in the unitedil states. Dont expect them to be spineless and weak president. It will be a completely different relationship between him if he wins and president donald trump. Tucker it sounds that way but unlike you, im an american. I only vote in this country, i only can. Im only a citizen of this country. Why would i or any of the other american citizens watching tonight think that its a good thing that a president of another country is declaring that the world has a right too move here . Thats a hostile act aimed at others. Why would we be for that . I dont know why he said that. But what i can tell you is he wants to protect the 12 million mexicans living here and 35 Million People in this country from mexican origins. Its going to be different. You remember with the current president , he invited then candidate donald trump to the mexican white house and mexicans were outraged by doing that. Lopez is going to be completely different. Recently he said that this policy of family separation is racist. So in other words if he becomes president and he would be december 1st, it would be completely different with donald trump. Tucker so we are getting another racism lecture from a rich white mexican ruling class member. Okay, just want to clarify that. Let me just ask you this. Racism lectures from any mexicam officials who preside over one of the most racist countries in the world, most americans dont understand that. Its racism. It is racism what has happened. Let me just say why. What other number of American Kids in cages right now . Its zero. And whats the number of Central American and mexican kids in cages or Detention Centers . 2300. Tucker nobody is being detained because of the color of his skin. This isnt mexico. In mexico people of indian background cant rise to levels of prominence because its too racist. As you know. Mexican citizens are in no position to lecture americans about racism. But it is racism what is happening in this country. Tucker of course is not racism. Thats called demagoguery. And we are told, including by people like you thats absurd. It is not absurd. D. Tucker if mexicans come here to assimilate and become americans, which is what we are always being told, they want a part of the american dream, then why is the guy running for president of mexico campaigning among them . It doesnt sound like they are assimilating, it sounds like they are just mexican citizens extracting what they can from our country. There are two things here. Ry first of all, under mexican law, mexicans living abroad, many including me were going to be doing that on july 1st. Tucker if they believe in america and they are assimilated into america why would they still be voting . You can assimilate and be part of the United States and still believe that you can participate politically in mexico. Those are the laws. B they can do it. Tucker but you wouldnt participate in an election unless you felt that that you. Ician was representing but if you were an american and you really identify with the United States than what they do in mexico doesnt really concern you. T so im confused. You cant be assimilated in america and still be voting in a foreign election. Doesnt make sense. But it does because you woule expect in this case the president of mexico to defend mexican immigrants or Central American or latin american immigrants if something happens to them. We just have the questions right now at the border. So you would expect the mexican president to defend you if something happens to you in the United States, of course. Tucker those are his people. Im even more confused. If those are his people, his citizens, he is representing them. Soliciting their votes, which he is doing, why doesnt he want them to live in mexico . Many of them left for many Different Reasons and as you know immigration has to do with supply and demand. If there are jobs for them here in the United States and there a are not enough jobs for them in mexico. Tucker oh, i get it. Just outsource your poor people to america. Immigrants contribute billions of dollars to the economy, the mexican immigrants. Tucker right. You know that. Tucker the left has movedno away over the line on the question of immigration, but thats not the only topic that theyve gone crazy over. Now some prominent liberals say we ought to institute socialism, that works well, and empty the prisons. See what they are saying next. You shouldnt be rushed into booking a hotel. With expedias addon advantage, booking a flight unlocks discounts on select hotels until the day you leave for your trip. Addon advantage. Only when you book with expedia. Willy davis, who has alzheimers. 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Professor cornell west is maybe the most prominent democratic socialist in america. He joined us recently to define the term. Tucker so to give us some sense of what democratic socialism is, can you point to one example that works . Venezuela seems like an example of democratic socialism, would you say that it is, and if so, does it work . Zu i dont think that democratic socialism as an ideal has been able to be embodied in the larger social context. Theres different forms of it, some are bad, some are medium, some are better. But the fundamental commitment is to the dignity of ordinary people and to make sure they can live lives of decency. So its not an ism. Its about decent, the workplace, women dealing with the household. Indigenous peoples, immigrants, how do we ensure that they are treated decently and at the powerful dont in any way manipulate, subjugate and exploit them . Tucker if thats what democratic socialism is that im basically on board. I do think that ordinary people, middleclass people ought to have dignity and i think that our current systems made it hard for them to have dignity. So i agree with all of that. But the details matter. Thats why albert einstein, helen keller, norman thomas, Martin Luther king jr. , we can go on and on. They are all democratic socialist. One of the great founders. Tucker but has it struck you as interesting that its never actually worked anywhere . The question is not what are our goals, our goals of the same. How do we get there is the question. So what happened in venezuela, they call that democratic socialism but they dont have toilet paper and is less equal than ever. But part of the problem is that any time there has been attempts of ordinary people to engage in selfdetermination they can get crushed by external nation. Look at u. S. Policies towards venezuela, very, very ugly. Sh nicaragua the same way. We saw that in so many other instances where countries try to engage in selfdetermination and they either get crushed, they get coerced and they end up oftentimes responding to the authoritarian treatment. With never had a chance to really pull it off. Its only been a movement so far. Attempt to resist a third grade at the top, the racism, sexism, homophobia, the various ways in which humanity is violated rather than affirmed. Tucker if the governments obligation is to its own citizens and you drop the borders and have no border enforcement at all, what would happen to this country . What would happen to the poor people in this country . With their lives get better . Where they become more prosperous . No, this country would become poorer, dirtier, impossible to manage. It would be flooded with the poor of the world and it would destroy our country instantly, so why would you say no borders . You got a variety of voices in the democratic socialists of america. We are like the jazz orchestra. Different perspectives and n. Orientation. We dont agree on one particular policy all the time. This is true with the Israeli Occupation of palestine. Some are in the middle, some are more extreme. How do you keep track of those coming from latin america . Those coming from africa, those coming from haiti and those coming from europe and asia . Thats the important thing. We know the history of americami but Indigenous Peoples and africans who have been in enslaved was to open the borders to bring folks in. Its not a matter of no borders at all. Its a matter of how do you ensure that their dignity is affirmed when they arrive so that you dont end up having the kind of neofascist policies of the Trump Administration separating these precious children from their mothers and fathers. Tucker that silly, as you well know. Whats silly . Tucker how do you think the descendants of the american slaves benefit when you bring in 25 million Illegal Immigrants from the third world . Does that elevate poor americans . I dont see any evidence that they get richer or happier when you bring in more poor people. You ignore their problems. Thats what we dont pay any attention. If we were having thisem discussion years ago and you had millions of people coming from jewhating europe, irishhating britain, all of the folks who came into the making of this nation, did it not allow for the kind of coming together with poor and working peoplent would be able to straighten their backs up and speak with dignity and decency about issues that affect all of us . Thats the history of the nation with the exception of the african slaves and the Indigenous Peoples. So the idea that somehow now the immigrants are here and a lot of the immigrants have only been here one or two generations now become the definitive authority defining what it is to be anan american, how hypocritical can you get . Ive been here nine generations coming out of enslaved people and i can still embrace my mexican brothers, i can embrace a whole host of others. But its not just a matter of no borders. Mb i dont believe in just no borders. Its a question of making sure their dignity is affirmed when they get here. Tucker cornell west, ladies and gentlemen. The New York Times has a question for t you. S is it okay for your kids to be friends with white people . They actually ask for that. We will tell you why coming up. Tech at safelite autoglass, we really pride ourselves on making it easy for you to get your windshield fixed. Teacher lets turn in your science papers. Tech vo this teacher always puts her students first. Student i did mine on volcanoes. 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I will teach my boys the lessons generations old he wrote. I will teach them caution, i will teach them suspicion. I will teach them distrust. I will teach my boys to have profound doubts that friendship with white people is possible. Those doubts, of course,ou mirrored the writers own, as he put it. History is provided little reason for people of color to trust white people. The piece remains one of the most popular on the website for days after it ran. The professor wrote the piece and we spoke to him. Tucker you are making generalizations across racial groups. So you say for example i will have to discuss with my boys whether they can truly be friends with white people. E history has provided little reason for people of color to trust white people. I have profound doubts that friendship with white people as possible. Thats absolutely right. Tucker if i were to write i was mugged as a pizza delivery boy and i told my children that they should never trust anybody who looks like the people who mugged me, i would never do that, i think that would be immoral, but it would be the definition of racism because i would be equating the people who mugged me with everyone else who looks like them. I think if thats the only part of the article you read it might sound like that, but of course the article has a much richer argument. The argument i make is, look, in a country where it turns out that when the most Vulnerable People of color are under threat, those who they count on are nowhere to be seen or at least for some group of people, and i speak explicitly about the environment we are in today. Ro so if we have a president who marshalls forces of hatred and anger and divisiveness and frankly just danger, quite aside from who he is. Im not particularly interested in who he is. If the people who call themselves your friends are not going to push back against that, then maybe you can tell me why it is i should trust those people . Tucker i guess what youre saying is people who dont agree with your politics cant be your friends which i think its an unfortunate conclusion to reach, but is different from the one you articulate here. Youre making again, for the third time, generalizations based on race. This is not a defense of donald trump, merely an acknowledgment of the fact that he received more africanamerican votes than any republican since 2004. I think he had 8 of africanamerican men. Thats not a huge number but thats tens of thousands of people. Are they in the same category too . Ri if youre saying you cant trust trump voters, fine. But white people . Thats a grotesque generalization and a divisive one. E. Im a little worried that you keep reading the same parts. You would make it seem as though the entire piece was just that paragraph. So the piece goes on to say tucker its the title of the piece. Thats right. I have no problem standing on the title of the piece but its worth pointing out as i have again and again, with the piece says is when those who count themselves as your friend see that others put you in danger, it is their opportunity to prove they are your friend and lets just speak plainly about this. You have children like i do, right . Tucker i do. And if your daughters were, i dont know, friendly with a group of people and it just turned out that repeatedly when they went out and your daughters were in danger, those group of young men just disappeared, i take it at some point you would fine to be friendly with them, but these are not your friends. You cant count on them. Tucker but because im not a racist what i wouldnt say is anybody of a certain race falls into that category. I would never do that. If one of my daughters was mugged by someone of a certain color i would never say to my daughter thats more evidence you can Never Trust Anyone who looks like that. I would be in culture reading race hatred in my children as you are. Obviously i deny that. What i said over and over was we live in a country where we oughtnt pretend that these divides have not consistently been on racial grounds and we see that over and over and over. When black people are in danger when black people arew in danger from, say, addiction, we get policing. A when white people are in danger they get rehabilitation. When black people dont have jobs, we get stories about why we are making the wrong choices. When white people dont have jobs we get a president ial campaign about the forgotten class. So to be fair just to conclude im going to go ahead and i will finish and then im happy to hear your point of view. If its the case that we live in a country where these divides have always consistently been racial, then i think its not only delusional, but it would be dangerous of me not to teach my boys that when they walk out ofs the world it will be a world that treats them differently. Tucker should i say the same thing to my children . There are africanamerican law professors who dislike you because of your color and you should dislike him back and all africanamerican law professors . I would never say that because thats grotesque. If i dont teach my boys how to be cautious, how to be careful, how to be perceived in the right way im not just risking their feelings being hurt, im risking their bodiesn being broken. Us tucker should i teach my kids that . You dont teach her daughters to be cautious until they can be sure that the men around them are trustworthy . Tucker thats not what the conversation is about. Its not about sex, its about race. I dont teach them that there are dramatic differences between the races because im not a bigot. So to be sure, its fine for you to care for your daughters and make sure that they are healthy and well but if i care for my sons in the same way tucker we are out of time. Thank you, professor. I appreciate your coming on and explaining that. Thank you. Tucker a prominent new york feminist says that a opponents of abortion want to force women to get pregnant. We will explain. Not having hepatitis c. Its like a load off my shoulders. I was just excited for it to be over. Harvoni is a revolutionary treatment for the most common type of chronic hepatitis c. Its been prescribed to more than a quarter Million People and is proven to cure up to 99 of patients who have had no prior treatment with 12 weeks. Certain patients can be cured with just 8 weeks of harvoni. 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Some prominent feminists are accusing their opponents, republicans, of creating aht dystopia where women will be forced to have children. President of now in new york city explaining how opposing abortion means you want to force pregnancy on women. Watch. Well, tucker. If you take away the access to abortion and you take away birt. Control, which is a really big issue that we got to discuss here tonight, you are indeed forcing women to have children. Lets get back to the point. Tucker i wonder how many people actually i think most of our viewers know that what you are saying is pure lunacyre and you do too. But lets just sort of refund reverse engineer this for aan second. So who is taking away the right to have an abortion . E i think the law i dont think, i know, the proposed regulation change would just make it less likely that taxpayers have to pay for abortion. Ou is that the same as banning abortion . Lets be very clear. Av its really the reason i wanted to come in your show tonight because i needed to dispel this myth. People need to understand iom want all the viewers to understand your taxpayers do not pay for abortions in this country. Taxpayers do pay for abortion tucker they dont. They dont. They do give a half a billion dollars to the largest abortionists on the continent. T in the case of rape and if a woman is dying. Those of the two situations since 1977. The amendment in which tucker we pay, taxpayers at gunpoint half a billion to planned parenthood which commits more abortions than any thing in the country. I dont think you should talk about at gunpoint. Ed im not joking. You just talked about it. Tucker it is at gunpoint. If you dont pay her taxes, they come and arrest you. The cops arrest you. If you give me a moment to speak. What everybody should understand also is planned parenthood works just like any other medical provider. They get reimbursed for the procedures they perform that are approved by the government. So they get a reimbursement for an std testing. They get reimbursed for all those other things, but not for abortion. But i want to take a moment to talk about what is happening. Weve got 4 minutes. Tucker you are for abortion. M you think abortion is a constitutional right. I think the right to bear armsou is because i read the bill of rights. R why shouldnt taxpayers be forced to subsidize the nra or buy my guns . Now who is talking lunacy and who is being dishonest . You invited me here tucker youre giving me the moral lecture. But i just answer my question. I think its an interesting question. I want viewers to know that one in four women in this country have an abortion. All kinds of women im not i answering your question because its a stupid question. Tucker i think its a really interesting question. I dont care about your question, i have an opportunity to speak to your viewers. Er one in four women in this country have abortions. Its going down from one in three. The reason why its gone down, teen pregnancy prevention programs that have been successful and right now the Trump Administration wants to divert 250 million of teen pregnancy programs. They want to divert that to abstinence only education. Tucker that was a good faith effort. I really tried. I hate cutting people off. But you were just too obnoxious, im sorry. Tucker the left wants to ban straws. Put you in jail for using them. At not making that up by theor way. We will explain next. You wouldnt accept an incomplete job from any one else. Why accept it from your allergy pills . Flonase sensimist relieves your worst symptoms, including nasal congestion, which most pills dont. It helps block six key inflammatory substances. Most pills block one. Flonase sensimist. Most pills block one. seriously, thats what we call tit. Officially. All a huge drag. And we covered it. Talk to farmers. We know a thing or two because weve seen a thing or two. We are farmers. Bumpadum, bumbumbumbum tucker welcome back to a special edition of Tucker Carlson tonight. First they came for your winstons, then your big gulps, then your incandescent light bulbs. Liberals want to take your straws. Bu heres what straw ban advocate had to tell us about it. Tucker i dont think its crazy to worry about what plastic does to animals an end really bothered by what it does to turtles. Ni it sounds may be dumb to some of our viewers. I dont like that. I guess what bothers me is the solution. The overwhelming majority of Plastic Waste in the ocean does not come from the United States. It comes from asia, as you know. So why not put pressure on the Asian Countries that are dumping this into the oceans and leavee american restaurant diners alone . First, its really a pleasure to be on the show to talk with you. You are right, america is in the top 20 of polluters of plastic when it compared to the other countries around the world. We should be focusing everywhere the same time. Our campaign when we started it just two years ago, it wasnt an antistraw campaign. It was really intended to save awareness about the state of pollution, not just in the United States, but elsewhere. And since we launched it with had request from folks in india, indonesia, even in china. Even in china to say what can i do about the Plastic Solution crisis. Not necessarily the straw but really the crisis overall. Tucker i think im kind of for that. I guess what bothers me is the emphasis. Ra threatening diners with jail time when they give out straws, probably less effective than saying to china, you are just spoiling the earth, which they are, and nobody ever says anything about it because they are like a third world country and we feel super guilty and we cant tell them what to do. They are responsible for the bulk of the pollution of the world and you guys never say anything about it. I actually hate pollution. I hate littering. I hate filth and i dont think you should hurt animals if you dont have to. Te i really believe that. I conceded that. Ma but lets just be real for a second. Of all the problems that we face, 50,000 people died of ods last year. Straws really in the top 100 problems . . Why arent we focusing on things that matter most . I think focusing on the plastic is what we should do. We are expected to see an increase in production and still let it increase in Waste Management globally over the next ten to 15 years. Its only going to get worse. You know the last thing you want to do is you want to see plastic pollution in the waters where you fish. Same with me. Tucker the law of unintended consequences cannot be repealed. If you ban straws, Companies Start making plastic sippy tops which use more plastic than the straws did. It does. Tucker short of like banning drinking except out of your hands, whats the solution there . [laughs] well, then we would all need plastic bibs to be able to protect our close and that wouldnt be part of the solution either, would it . What im really excited for if there are Companies Like dell corporation, humanscaleer interface, others that actually are working with countries like indonesia and chile and even in the philippines to say how do we take all of that Plastic Wastee thats on your beaches, on your riverbeds and shorelines and how do we help you y build infrastructure and take that waste product and actually turn it into chairs . Uc tucker is meat murder . Our next guest says yes, it is,t and we should be required to give it up for good. Thats next. Capital one is anything but typical. Thats why we designed capital one cafes. You can get savings and checking accounts with no fees or minimums. And one of americas best savings rates. 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Thanks for coming on. Thank you, tucker. Really appreciate it. Tucker so you got your views about what we ought to be eating, i do too. I love barada. But im not trying to force anybody else to eat it. It seems like taking a large step to assume you have the right to tell other people what to eat. Why are you doing that . Ak im actually not telling people what they must or must not eat i just want people to think more about what their fooy choices are and recognize the consequences. Recognize that not eating animals is actually an option we have. We grew up believing we need meat for protein but in fact we can live well without it so ite a choice we each need to make but we should make informed choices. Or tucker i dont think its a crazy idea. I love animals and i dont like the way factory farms treat animals. S. Im sympathetic to what you are saying and then i meet people who are vegan and theres a super high level of fussiness, which i find a major turnoff. And two, they all looked pretty easy to push over, so you cant tell me its that good for you if they all look like they fall over in the wind. We are certainly a passionate group as vegans but not all vegans are that skinny. In fact the only u. S. Mail weight lifter who qualified for the olympics in rio is a vegan. T there are amazing vegan body builders and athletes. A legendary ultra runner, vegan. So vegans can be very healthy as well. Tucker interesting. You make a compelling case. So get to the fussiness point. Ive never met a vegan who didnt spend at least 70 of the day thinking about food. You dont want to spend your whole life thinking about food, right . I dont. And i think maybe the vegans youre meeting arm may be talking about it or the ones that say they are vegan are the ones that are talking about it. But there are many vegans that you wouldnt know are vegan and as a vegan, for me its really about living as compassionately as possible, not participating in unnecessary suffering. And if we can live well without causing harm to other animals, why wouldnt we . Tucker i agree with you. Im going to say i agree with you completely there. But since most people are not going to stopped eating meat and meat is delicious, why not make an effort to push the companies that are causing undue suffering, unnecessary suffering among animals, really mistreating them actually to clear up their act a little bit. Instead of giving up meat entirely why not push these big factory farms to knock it off . I think thats important as well and we do support campaigns to limit the suffering on factory farms. Weve been involved in c legislative efforts to give animals more space, for example, so they are not confined so tightly they cant even turn around. We do that as well as work to encourage people to recognize wu can live well eating plants instead of animals. Tucker thats the other question i have that i actually dont understand it. I love cheese. I like meat too but i really love cheese. Im not giving it up, period, or cheddar, period. Why is that harming animals to eat dairy . I dont understand that. In order for a cow to produce milk she has to have a baby and the babies are taken away at birth and in some cases they are raised to become veal. A male calf born on the dairy farm, they are useless so they are actually raised to become veal calves. So they have it pretty rough and when they are no longer profitable on the dairy they are sent to slaughter and h usually killed about three or four years old. Tucker veal is a separate question. You could humanely milk a cow. Its not abuse to milk the cow. But also with an emphasis thing. So china has an entire festival dedicated to murdering dogs. I think a reason to Institute Sanctions against china at very least but no one ever says anything about it because they are hassling tyson chicken. Lets start with the chinese, no . I agree that what happens to dogs in china is horrible. But a Chinese Company now owns the huge pork industry i think kindness is important across the board, across the world. And in the u. S. We have a lot of work to do but i agree we also need to be working on other countries and encouraging humane policies be enacted there too. Tucker let me just end with this question, because i think it opens up an interesting topic. If you are saying that we shouldnt be cruel to animals and i agree with you completely and i hope other conservatives would pause and think about itma because i think a lot of them would agree. Rv weve been trained in some way to defend tyson. I we shouldnt defend tyson, but thats different from saying we have no moral right to eat d animals. And i think most people believe that we have dominion over the animals. So if you were starving on the mountain somewhere and a goat was all you had, would you kill the goat and eat him or would you starve . Honestly. Thats a good fundamental question to think through. It right now have plenty of food and its not really an issue we need to worry about, but if it were, i think most people would try to survive. We really have a desire to survive. But in some cases if you kill and eat the goat you have more meat but if you have that goat as a companion you enjoyhe life. Tucker those are practical questions. I want to get to the root question, the moral question. Do we have dominion over the animals or are they are peers . Are they the same as people . We have the power over the animals and i think with a lot of power comes the responsibility. We can a kill them but whether e should kill them is a bigger question. Tucker okay. I have to say i started this segment thinking this guy is probably crazy but i think you are actually reasonable and thoughtful and i dont agree with everything you said but i appreciate your coming on tonight. I appreciate your concern about animals enter openmindedness to the issue. Tucker i love animals. We shouldnt mistreat them. Thank you very much. Thats about it for us tonight. Tune in every night at 8 00 p. M. Eastern. Its earlier if you are on the other coast. The show that is the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, and groupthink. You can dvr it if you can figure it out. , otherwise have a great night, we will see you tomorrow. Good night from washington. Welcome to the special edition of hann ity. Roseanne sat down with us. Some parts of the sitdown are controversial. Take a look. After starting her career, Roseanne Barr become a household name. She starred in her own sitcom, a huge hit on abc. She won an emmy, gold golden globe, and multiple other awards. Year after year