republican nominee sitting at the defendant's table having these charges read against him, having these witnesses testify against him, when you have republican witnesses like white house council pat cipollone testifying against him, what is that going to do? that's a huge moment that's going to have a real impact on this campaign. >> chuck, as dan talks about sort of outlining the total eclipse of the sum this could be in a presidential campaign, as you sit here now and i'm not asking you to make predictions, but what's a thoughtful assessment about if not march, given how the appellate court has been moving, what the supreme court, the "x" factor here might do, do you think it's likely that summer is a time for trials. >> let me ask you a question. >> as many as you want, 200. >> i may need it. if the circuit court decides as we expect for the government,