backward from that ruling, the last hail mary up to the appellate court to get a delay in the venue changed. did that have a chance at all it was the sort of like the many motions we have seen them file? >> just like the many motions. this idea that there is worse publicity in manhattan and there is anywhere else really doesn't make a lot of sense. >> yeah, it's the 21st century. they're going to find you. and that was the argument they were making but it does strike me, again, i always ask this question. this flurry of attempts to delay the trial, to get the venue moved, all of the stuff we've seen is not standard practice, right? >> no. there are pretrial motions to move venue. i've seen those. i've dealt with those but the