like, the highest level of selflessness you could find. there were so many men who had traveled back from living in europe who came to ukraine to fight in the war. there were so many men who were older than 60 who could have escaped ukraine, but chose to fight in the war. one of the individuals in charge of one of the groups we were training, three weeks earlier, owned an aquarium store. >> that's crazy. i mean, to what do you attribute their ability so far to keep the russians at bay? i mean, there were reports today that they're already starting to take back some of the major cities that were initially lost. to what do you attribute that? this sort of, not to oversimplify it, but perhaps by western standards, this rag tag bunch of service members who have been able to keep goliath at bay so far. >> right. and what i really found was that the whole country has mobilized in war effort, you know, women