stage this morning. great job. >> it's painful, but also really damaging and we'll get to why. along with joe, willie and me we have professor at princeton university, eddie glaude jr., former treasury official and economic analyst steve rattner. and president of the counsel on foreign relations authd thor of t awni author of the book "a world in disarray ". it's hard not to think about the impact the president is having on the world stage to our national security pretty much every time he opens his mouth. >> and getting in fights with everybody. after he gets in fights with other people he decides to push his tariff wars, his trade wars even more. which, of course, just taxes working class americans. before we get there, though, you know, i wanted to talk to willie. willie, you remember i think it was three years, i don't remember how long we were in