specifics tonight that could be the kind of thing that are announced in a general framework. i mean, we know -- i mean, the staff of the senate finance committee and the house ways and means committee, they haven't even heard what kyrsten sinema's tax proposals are, and they are the people who have to write these things, and they can't write those overnight. >> yeah, except the problem in this instance is that joe manchin has been saying to folks i want to see the details before i sign off on it. so there is -- you know, rachel referred to it chicken and egg, there is one of the problems of announcing a framework because i'm not sure manchin will sign the dotted line on a framework without the details. >> all right. so we will -- we will see what happens tomorrow. claire mccaskill says you can skip tomorrow's news on this -- on this particular story. >> yeah. and by the way, lawrence, i also said the dodgers were going to win the series on "morning joe" the other morning.