Lets eignite the fight over statues. You know everything. Read the book. Bobby ken by. Thats it for our broadcast. Brian williams and everyone here will be back. Thank you from all much us. Good night. Tonight on all in. This morning the president launched into a argument with Chuck Schumer. In the wake of an atrocity. Why was he so quick to go the political route and point fingers at Chuck Schumer . President trump attacks democrats and the american Justice System. What we have right now is a joke. And its a laughing stock. Tonight, how the trump response changes depending on the attacker. I dont want to go quicker and just make a statement for the sake of making a political statement. Then, new reporting that a panicked president is blaming his soninlaw. Come here, jared. New questions about what Jeff Sessions knew about russian collusion. Im not aware that anyone else did. What the president knew about it . Nobody that i knew of. And what Robert Mueller will find in the president s taxes. I have no deals with russia. When all in starts right now. Good evening from new york, im chris hayes. One month ago tonight, a White American man with more than 20 guns shot almost 600 people at a concert in las vegas, killing 58 of them and then himself. It was the worst Mass Shooting in modern American History and the single deadliest attack on american soil since 9 11. At the time, the white house scolded anyone suggesting maybe something could be done about guns in this country, the weapons he used to carry that out, accusing them of politicizing a tragedy and getting ahead of the facts. It just wasnt the time for that. Needless to say, a month later the president still has yet to offer a single policy solution. Today, though, just about 18 hours after a Terrorist Attack here in new york city in which an Uzbek National in a pickup truck mowed down cyclists and pedestrians in a bike path
leaving eight dead, the president was blaming the u. S. Senator from new york. He also tweeted about isis and his socalled Extreme Investigating program. He blamed the attack on the American Immigration system and then the entire Justice System of the United States of america. Its part of a longstanding pattern of amplifying and weaponizing acts of violence committed by muslims, while other kinds of violence, especially by White Nonmuslims are held at arms length. The president of the United States has access to the best information from Law Enforcement on their ongoing investigation, far beyond whats available to the public, but instead hes getting his updates from fox friends. Parroting an unconfirmed report the green card holder entered under a program allegedly pushed by democrats. We are here, brian, precisely because of the neglect, political neglect of the last administration. Senator Chuck Schumer importing helping import europes problems. We dont want that. That was this morning. Minutes later, the president tweeted Chuck Schumer helping to import europes problems, said colonel tony shaffer. We will stop this craziness. foxandfriends. The president gets his news from fox news. The rest of us get it from Law Enforcement. The attacker had been planning the attack for weeks. He was charged in Federal Court today with giving Material Support to isis. Also today, authorities released the identities of all eight victims who died in that attack who ranged in age from 23 to 48 years old. Five were from argentina, one from belgium. The other two were locals from new york and new jersey. The argentinians were part of a group celebrating the 30th Anniversary of their high school graduation, seen here enjoying the bike path in the moments before they were mowed down. At a Cabinet Meeting today after offering a brief tribute to those victims, the president pivoted to pushing his longstanding immigration goals. We should note that the man responsible for that bombing in chelsea in Lower Manhattan last year was just convicted in Federal Court two weeks ago using the normal constitutional use of criminal procedure. He was prosecuted by the same office that just charged saipov for yesterdays attack. A year ago while the manhunt for the chelsea bomber was still under way, then candidate trump seized the moment to tweet about refugees. He had a similar reaction this past september calling out police in the midst of their investigation. Another attack in london by a loser terrorist. These are sick and demented people in the sight of scotland yard. Must be proactive. There was his unforgettable response to the pulse nightclub massacre, which was until las vegas, the deadliest Mass Shooting in modern u. S. History. Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical islamic terrorism. I dont want congrats. I want toughness and vigilance. We must be smart. Of course it was just five days after the 2015 attack at San Bernardino that the man who is now president called to ban an
talk about gun policy. But here he can go off half cocked and talk about Immigration Policy when it probably has nothing to do with immigration. He just use the culture wars and any excuse he gets to rally his base. One of the things, if you were talking intelligently, you would ask him why he recommended greatly cutting down the counterterrorism budget, Counterterrorism Funds in his budget. Now, the fact is that saipov immigrated to this country seven years ago. He was vetted by all accounts, there was nothing particularly dangerous about him. Now he probably, in recent years, got radicalized by social media while he was here, as weve seen in other cases. Immigration has nothing to do with that, but its a good Talking Point for the president. Do you what do you want to say to the president if he were to call you after this . It took him a while to call the mayor, it took him a while to call the governor. Has he reached out to you . No, he has not reached out to me and i dont expect him to. What would you say to him if he said congressman, i want to send my condolences, what would you tell him. Id say thank you for your condolences and the best thing you can do is stop talking about irrelevancies. Instead, restore the Counterterrorism Funds so the new York City Police and the fbi can do their jobs more effectively. Dont cut down the Counterterrorism Funds while youre talking about terror. Id also say dont demagogue about the criminal Justice System. The fact of the matter is he was, as you pointed out, the chelsea bomber is already convicted. A regular court in new york, a Federal Court will mete very harsh justice to someone who does this. I want to play for you,
because its not just the president sort of considered guantanamo, there are other republicans considered antitrump like john mccain and Lindsey Graham who are also calling for this person to not go through the normal constitutional and criminal procedures as he has been charged today. I dont i dont understand why some of our republican colleagues do not trust the american Justice System. It has been a very good and effective system. It has tried People Fairly and rapidly and given them the sentences they deserve. By contrast, Khalid Sheikh mohammed who was involved in the 9 11 attack is still awaiting trial by military commission in guantanamo. If you want a 20year delay, send someone to guantanamo. If you want effective and swift justice, Federal Courts and state courts in new york can handle that very well. I should note that the Guantanamo System is such a mess that today a judge ordered a marine general acting as a Defense Attorney in guantanamo to serve a 21day sentence because things are blowing up
sebrina, you can tell the folks in there in the white house let me ask you this. As someone who is in the white house, is the difference between how he reacts to different events, different atrocities, apparent and palpable in that white house . Oh, absolutely. And i think you have seen this time and again where any time the suspect is someone is a brownskinned individual or has a muslim name, the president is quick to react and call for sweeping policies, whether its his travel ban or more coded language referring to extreme investigate. If its a white male born and raised in the u. S. Who is the perpetrator of a Mass Shooting, its too soon to politicize the event or to call for any sort of policy response. I think, look, what we know is that this is a president who is trying to meet a few key goals with respect to immigration. And really its to slash Legal Immigration as well as to try to limit immigration from muslim majority countries. So he thinks that this somehow reaffirms that objective, when in fact none of what he has proposed would have prevented this incident from taking place because uzbekistan was not on any of the Travel Ban Iterations that he put forward. This is someone who came in through this Lottery Program seven years ago, and so he only recently may have been radicalized and that would not have come up when he was being considered for that program. We should also note whats called the Diversity Lottery is a vestige of a law signed by george w. Bush which was proposed to be scrapped by the folks that tried to the gang of eight bill signed. If Immigration Reform had been signed, which was spearheaded by Chuck Schumer himself, it would not exist anymore. The thing you said something, rick, that struck with me. Weve seen the politics of
terror work on behalf of republicans before, definitely worked for george w. Bush. And part of it is because it allowed people that werent in the political collision, they felt scared and that fear could be marshalled and used to expand the political coalition. What strikes me is the way he handles this isnt pitched to anyone who isnt already in the political coalition. Right, no. This is a guy who cannot who Cannot Operate Outside of the Cheer Section that exists for him. Its the Comment Section of various, you know, kook right websites that he looks to and its the fox friends, you know, theyre feeding him a steady drip every morning of adoration and approval. And so, you know, he cant he cant bring himself to understand anyone outside of the coalition that supports him. And anyone outside in the vast majority of americans who look at an event like yesterday and recoil at how horrifying it is and want to come to solutions
and want to praise new yorkers for being resilient. Look, i worked for Rudy Giuliani in new york, and so i understand the sort of Reflex Action by people in the city of new york. They look at things like this and they shake it off and push it in the background and get on with their lives, its what they do. And donald trump taking this guy, as tragic and horrible as this is, and trying to get back and use this as a way to undo his multiple failings on this immigration ban, you know, it speaks very much to the fact that he doesnt have anything outside his base. There is no there, there beyond the folks that wake up in the morning and believe that fox news fox friends is the word from the prophet on the mountain. And its not just that, sabrina, what i found unnerving this morning, the president
seemed to be getting his information from fox news. Its not just that he is speaking to those people, it goes two ways. It really seems like he wants to know what happened in Lower Manhattan yesterday, hes clicking On Fox Friends and thats the source of the information of the president of the United States. Certainly it was fox friends that was the source apparently of this information and even if you say that hes the president , he has access to classified material, he is then choosing, as we have seen before, to disseminate this on twitter, without much thought for the ramifications or the fact that u. S. Authorities havent actually weighed in. Just one quick thing rick hit upon the fact that this is really about triggering Pressure Points within his base. And i think that even the fact that he would mention the prospect of sending this individual to guantanamo, thats rooted in him knowing that that is really something that in the eyes of the base projects this aura of toughness, when if youre just looking at it from a substantive standpoint, some of the conspirators for 9 11 havent even received a start date for their trial. So you have Federal Courts that
by contrast have convicted and sentenced well over a dozen terrorists at the same time. So that is a key point also worth mentioning. Sabrina and rick, thank you. Thanks, chris. As the Mueller Investigation goes inside the west wing, trump is attacking Jared Kushner . Plus, new questions about what Jeff Sessions really knew when he testified under oath. Thats in two minutes. Attorney general Jeff Sessions. He was, of course, present at a march 2016 meeting with Campaign Aide george papadopoulos, who has since pleaded guilty to lying to the fbi about his contact with kremlin proxies. And that was the meeting when papadopoulos said he proposed arranging a meeting between trump and russian president Vladimir Putin. According to a former Campaign Aide who spoke to the New York Times, mr. Sessions, as the campaigns Top National Security official, spoke vehemently against the idea asking others not to discuss it again, which may or may not be true, but its hard to think that he forgot about that whole thing when he repeatedly denied any knowledge of any possible Campaign Communications with russia. Senator franken, im not aware of any of those activities. I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign and i did not have communications with the russians. And im unable to comment on it. Further, i have no knowledge of any such conversations by anyone connected to the Trump Campaign. You dont believe that surrogates from the Trump Campaign had communications with the russians . Is that what youre saying . I did not and im not aware of anyone else that did. And i dont believe it happened. And you dont believe it now . I dont believe it happened. Congressman Eric Swalwell is a member of the house intelligence committee. He joins me now. The Attorney General said im not aware of anybody who did but he was in a meeting that we now know from a filing in court signed by the person in question as part of a plea that he said in that meeting that sessions was in, i think i can arrange for a meeting with Vladimir Putin and donald trump. What do you make of that . Chris, good evening. And first, you know, our hearts are with you in new york and the victims there. What i make of that, chris, is that this is a theme that we have seen from donald trump, his son, Jared Kushner, Attorney General sessions, and just about everyone at the highest level is that they have failed to
acknowledge meetings with russians, only when confronted by you or other folks in the press or congressional investigators with contradicting evidence do they finally come around or say that i fail to recall. Also, i think whats also important from the Papadopoulos Stipulation of facts is this theme now of getting dirt on Hillary Clintons emails. That also now has come up in so many different contexts. And so i think that, again, it looks like Attorney General sessions was not forthcoming. This was the Court Document that i should just read to the people. When defendant papadopoulos introduced himself to the group he stated in sum and substance he had connections that could help arrange a meeting between then candidate trump and president putin. The other part of the Court Document, mr. Trump listened with interest and asked questions. Mr. Trump didnt say yes and didnt say no said the former
aide who agreed to describe the meeting on condition of anonymity. I guess the question is do you think its plausible that all this back and forth simply escaped the notice of the Attorney General . I dont believe in coincidences any more when it comes to the trump team and russia, so no. No, i dont think its plausible at all. Do you think he was intentionally misleading the committee . I think he has failed a number of times to be truthful about his contacts with russia. And so, you know, i dont understand what explanation he would give here other than he didnt want to acknowledge that somebody had told he, the president and other senior advisers that they had a connection to Vladimir Putin. And so, again, chris, this is just a reoccuring theme here. Whether they actually worked with the russians and, quote unquote, colluded or did their damndest to work with them, they wanted to work with them. Let me stop you there. Thats the question. In what ways whats interesting is i think the press an politicians and the white house
have arrived on this word collusion, colluding, which has no legal meaning, right . Thats right. Theres no part of the u. S. Code conspiracy. Right. But what do you think of what we know now from the charging document, how do you characterize the actions of the campaign . I characterize it this way. A bunch of people were told that there is money in a vault. So they got the ski masks, they got the vault blueprints, they talked about how they were going to get the money out of that vault and what were trying to figure out is did they actually work and go take the money out of the vault . We know that an attempt at the very least was made. They wanted to get that money out of the vault. And the law, you know, an attempt can be just as incriminating as a complete act. But right now we just want to
complete our investigation so we can answer that question. But we know they were will and eager to work with the russians. Congressman Eric Swalwell, thank you. My pleasure. Frank figluzzi served under then fbi director Robert Mueller. What do you make of the actions by the Special Counsel on monday in terms of what you understand his strategy to be here . Well, theres clearly a pathway that hes got planned out, and were seeing it unfold right now. And one of the things that i think were all realizing is that the mueller team is much farther along in this investigation and much closer to the oval office than many of us realized. And what were learning even today is that people that i call the formers, former white house Chief Of Staff, Reince Priebus, former white house spokesman, sean spicer, former interim National Security advisor, keith
kellogg, all voluntarily working with or being interviewed by the mueller team. This is a sign that hes penetrated into the white house. These are the people who were savvy, in meetings, privy to knowledge, for example, Reince Priebus was white house Chief Of Staff when trump decided to fire fbi director james comey. What does he know about that . What does he know about might be Michael Flynn and who knew what when . But let me tell you something, the appearance of hope hicks and the likelihood shes about to be interviewed when he returns from a foreign trip with the president should worry President Trump perhaps more than anything else. Why . All of the people we just named are formers. They dont have this lovefest with the president. They in fact have issues with the president. Hope hicks has been with trump and the Trump Organization since
2014. Shes a 29yearold young lady. Shes about to undergo the most stressful part of her life, being interviewed by the Special Counsel team. She sits in the most sensitive meetings, the most critical media interviews the president has. She knows more than we think she knows. You worked with counterintelligence and from that perspective, im trying to make sense of these approaches, because theyre so strange, right . So youve got the approach at trump tower, and the manager for The Rock Star whos the son of an oligarch says, oh, the kremlin wants to help your dad get elected. Here weve got papadopoulos saying i met this professor in london and hes talking to people in the kremlin. As someone who worked in counterintelligence, what do those look like to you . You see the fingerprints of the russian government here. Papadopoulos meets with a professor, who just happens to be able to hook you up with russian Government Ministry of Foreign Affairs official. Ministry of Foreign Affairs is
often a Cover Position for russian intel. He meets a woman who claims shes related to Vladimir Putin. We find out from the mueller team shes not. Then we see manafort and gates representing ukrainian prorussian president ial candidate. The party is pro russia. They are told to put their money for consulting in a cyprus bank. Who uses the cyprus bank to launder money . The russian intelligence service. I want to ask you from your perspective, in a little more than ten years manafort, this is from some of the charging documents, has submitted ten United States passport applications on ten different occasions. He currently has three u. S. Passports with different numbers. Have you heard of anything like that before . Thats a lot. Now, look, there are people who travel incredibly, fill up the passport book, need new
passports, but this many is problematic. The guy travels a lot, but theres way too many passports going on here. And again, i think he got a primer on how the russians can influence a campaign when he represented the ukrainian candidate, and he saw what russia could do to manipulate a campaign and he liked it. Thats an interesting idea. Frank figliuzzi, appreciate it. The president of the United States is beginning to blame his own soninlaw for the predicament he finds himself in. That story coming up. Building a website in under an hour is easy with gocentral. From godaddy in fact, 68 of people who have built their. Website using gocentral, did it in under an hour, and you can too. Build a better website in under an hour. With gocentral from godaddy. Pressure relieving comfort, and our 90day, complete satisfaction trial, will make tossing and turning a thing of the past. Plus, during our veterans day savings event, save up to 500 on select Adjustable Mattress sets. Find your exclusive retailer at tempurpedic. Com. How did the president respond to this news about two people who did work for his campaign or was he disappointed
that Paul Manafort received this news today that he was being charged on these 12 counts . He responded the same way the rest of us in the white house have. Thats without a lot of reaction because it doesnt have anything to do with us. The Trump Administration on monday was trying to project an air of calm as Robert Muellers first three indictments came news. Tonight the president calls the New York Times personally to let them know just how chill he is. Im actually not angry at anybody, mr. Trump told the times. But thats not what white house staffers are telling just about anyone who will listen. Cnn has reported that donald trump is seething over the charges. The Washington Post wrote that Trump Fumd Over russia indictments. Quote, the walls are closing in and everyone is freaking out. In a gabe sherman piece today, former trump Campaign Aide sam nunberg went on the record. Heres what manaforts indictment tells me. Trump is at 33 in gallup. You cant go any lower, hes fed. He also said that the president may now be turning on the one
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his role in decisions, specifically the firings of mike flynn and james comey that led to Robert Muellers appointment, according to a source briefed on the call. Gabe sherman, special correspondent for vanity fair and msnbc contributor joins me now. The latest piece, steve bannon tells trump to bring in lawyers as he looks for ways to kneecap Robert Mueller. The president calls to say actually im not angry. A statement that is always almost selfrefuting. Of course. What does your reporting suggest, is that accurate that hes not angry . It reminds me when trump says believe me. Every time he says believe me, you know its the opposite, dont believe him. This clearly was a sign that the white house is spooked and is pushing back aggressively on my reporting and others in the Washington Post and The Daily Beast at some of the panic and turmoil people in the west wing are feeling in the wake of the indictments and the guilty plea of george papadopoulos. Your reporting is that bannon is trying to urge him to bring in new lawyers and go harder at mueller. Correct. What strikes me as so reckless about that, theyre also under investigation for obstruction of justice. The fact that theyre telling reporters or whoever is telling reporters were going to go after mueller, that could itself be part of a case against the president of the United States for obstruction. Right. Still, steve bannon has no problem urging President Donald Trump to really go to the mattresses on this when it comes to mueller and his investigative team. As we reported at thedailybeast. Com, bannon has been urging the president to bring in more, as he would say, ruthless lawyers to sort of layer above ty cobb and john dowd, two leaders of trumps outside legal team, who bannon thinks are remarkably incompetent. We should say that cobb appears to me to be someone right now that is standing between the impulses of the president to Attack Mueller and, you know, his actual behavior. He always is saying were cooperating, were confident that well be found innocent. Is that the case . Is he kind of the fulcrum for the white houses response . Sort of. But its also a matter of the fact that the president and the white house do not actually have a choice at this point to cooperate. Even bannon himself has not been urging the president to order the sacking of Robert Mueller because theyre aware of the political firestorm and the potential political suicide that would ensue if they did that. Having said that, bannon is one of the president s closest advisers, even though steve bannon himself does not work within trumps west wing anymore, and he is essentially being a devil on trumps shoulder on this. Yeah, that sounds like familiar. What do you think about this
kushner any time i see anyone kneecapping kushner, ivanka or back in the day people kneecapping bannon, i was trying to read the tea leaves of which faction of the west wing was going after who. What do we make of this idea that hes turned against kushner . The most important thing to remember about donald trump, never his fault. He never will take any responsibility for any decision. So in the wake of pushing out steve bannon, in the wake of pushing out Reince Priebus, sean spicer and all of the other advisers who were part of that original west wing team, the only one there who was part of that core group now is Jared Kushner. And so donald trump looks out as my reporting indicates and says how did i get into this mess . What he sees is that Jared Kushner was by his side at every critical moment that led to the appointment of the special prosecutor. So donald trump has been telling people, as i understand it in this phone call i reported on with steve bannon that he said, listen, Jared Kushner is part of the reason im in this mess because he encouraged me, he was part of the decision to fire jim comey. He was part of the decision to fire mike flynn. These were the Trigger Points that led us to the Special Counsel. I want to read a quote for you from Gabes Reporting and tell me if that squares from things you hear from people in the white house. Jared is the worst political advisor in the white house in modern history. Im only saying publicly what everyone says behind the scenes at fox media and in the senate and the congress. Do you hear that . Within the white house, Jared Kushner has a number of people both within and without the white house who are in trumps inner political circle who greatly resent him. Having said that, the president is lashing out at his soninlaw and senior advisor, Jared Kushner, but he is also lashing out at a lot of people within his inner circle. This is not exclusive. Thats true. To mr. Kushner. Related to what you were saying earlier where the president laughably told the New York Times, oh, i actually think this is fun, im not actually mad, that is patently false. Anyone with any understanding of this president can tell you
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alemged to have. Some reported in bits and pieces. Records from cyprus showed that manafort had been in debt to pro russian interests before joining the Trump Campaign in march. Less than a month after that he tried to immediately leverage his new Position Writing how do we use to get whole, ovd operation, oleg deripaska. These raise questions whether his financial dealings left him open to influence or straightup collusion by foreign interests. Very same questions apply to the man Whose Campaign he was running, current president of the United States, donald trump. Even manafort himself couldnt give a coherent answer on this subject last year. To be clear mr. Trump has no Financial Relationships with any russian oligarchs. Thats what he did, thats what i said, thats obviously what our position is. Okay. We know almost nothing about Donald Trumps finances, to whom he owes money, when those bills might come due, what interests might he be serving. Theres one document that could lay those fears to rest, tax returns which he presumably filed two weeks ago. Unlike past president s hes not made it public. At this crucial juncture seems to me americans do a right to know and u. S. Congress could force him to produce that document right now. One senator who hes lawmakers should do just that joins me next. We now a lot more about the financial entanglements Paul Manafort is believed to have
portfolio came from russian money. Tax reform bill were talking about may favor the trump family has always supported. Would connect a lot of dots and in a lot of ways like the Paul Manafort situation. When you get the details, for example i think the details about Paul Manafort are going to be so serious hes not going to be able to sweep them under those very expensive rugs he bought. Let me ask you this, does congress have the power to make the president give you his tax returns . Theres a complicated process, really involves the chair, orrin hatch and myself, ranking democrat, agreeing to set in motion a process to obtain the tax return, have the Finance Committee look it over if get them to go along, yes would be a policy for making them public. I say respectfully, not been able to get republican support. Its a concrete action they can take if concerned where this is headed. Also about the president s power to pardon federal crimes is well nigh absolute, if he were to do it and many think thats manaforts angle here, what could congress or people do . I feel this pardon issue is not unlike firing bob mueller. If youre even looking at that, thinking about the Pardon Process at this point, i think youre going to be triggering a constitutional crisis, i think would be a big mistake. Many republicans in the senate have said that they would be for bob mueller. Ive been telling them, speak out right now, its going to be important to protect bob muellers right to do a professional job. We have heard talk about mueller, republicans on the record saying he shouldnt do that. And you think firing Paul Manafort sorry pardoning paul
manafort is on the same plane as that. Particularly at outset, if youre doing either talking about firing bob mueller, pardoning people, it just, based on my conversations with senators, i think would trigger a constitutional crisis. Youve had hearings over the last two days with platform companies, google, facebook and twitter among others, about the ways in which russian actors appeared to use their platforms, possibly in dubiously legal ways. What is your one big takeaway from the hearings about the platforms and how theyre equipped. Seems to me the Companies Better move quickly to restore trust. Have not done enough to police their platforms from bad actors. I wrote a law that gives them tremendous legal power to do a
better job pleegs the platforms. Reason this is important, Supreme Court has said yes its possible have some restrictions on politics and political speech but almost Everything Else is covered by the first amendment, rallies and marches and protests. That means these companies have to step up to police them from bad actors. Are you concerned about the midterms . My concern is they have to play catchup and do it in a hurry. Midterms coming up. Whole host of questions. Ive asked people who make the Voter Machines to tell us what theyre doing for cybersecurity. But midterms are almost around the corner and these companies ought to recognize right now a lot of people are questioning their integrity. Thanks for your time. Thats all for this evening