This week, the great thes pooen rory omalley plays king george in hamilton gives a review on how Hillary Clinton and donald trump performed in the first president ial debate. Rory omalley is great. A little proclinton, maybe. But he is really good. Ill be back tomorrow, same bad time, same bad channel. See you tomorrow. Sayonara. Hardball with Chris Matthews is next. He cant get over pinpoint lets play hardball. Good evening. Im Chris Matthews back in washington. Well, theres a wellknown rule in politics, when youre in a hole, stop digging. One guy doesnt seem to know this wellknown rule. His name is donald trump. He cant stop saying that he won a debate that voters by two to one give to his opponent. He cant stop talking about a former beauty pageant winner. Cant stop acting like baghdad bob, remember him, the iraqi who kept said he was winning the war against the u. S. Invaders. And saying that north korea won the olympics. Well, because he keeps going over it and over it, trump has trapped himself in a political Twilight Zone, where he blames everyone he can, anyone he can think of, as responsible for monday night, a night he claims desperately to have been the winner. Well, if he won, you have to ask, why did he look for so many people to blame . As i said, while trump has been spinning his performances of victory, an online poll shows that 52 of Hillary Clinton won the first debate, 26 say neither one, and down in third place, 21 say that trump was the victor. Now trump is dismissing the debate as a rigged deal. Heres what he said this afternoon. During the debate the other night, she was saying, oh, no, she never said that. She said it, i mean, she said it. And then i had to put up then i had to put up with the anchor
and fight the anchor all the time, on everything i said. What a rigged deal. So its lester holts fault, now. Boy, hes blaming everybody. This comes after trump confidants this week have been airing their grievances about the candidates lack of discipline. On trumps debate prep with former fox news chairman roger ailes, the New York Times reports that, quo, mr. Trump found it hard to focus during those meetings that left mr. Ailes discussing his own problems as well as recounting political war stories. Well, Rudy Giuliani didnt have anymore luck once he took over for ailes, quote, with mr. Trump receiving so much conflicting advice in those sessions, he absorbed little of it. Meanwhile, trumps feud with former Miss Universe, alicia machado, has now entered its third day, with trump doubling down on his assertions about Alicia Machados weight. Last night on fox, trump defended his behavior and suggested he is the victim, because he says he saved machados job. Take a listen. She did not do well. She had a lot of difficulties. And, you know, they wanted to fire her. I had nothing to do with this person, but they wanted to fire her. I saved her job, because i said, thats going to be ruinous. And ive done that with a number of the young ladies, where i saved their job. And you know what happened . Look what i get out of it . I get nothing. I saved her job because they wanted to fire her for putting on so much weight. And it is a beauty contest, you know, say what you want, bill, they know what theyre getting into. Its a beauty contest. And i said, dont do that. Let her try and lose the weight. Can you imagine i end up in a position like this . So thats the way it is. Well, now nbc news has obtained an internal Trump Campaign memo that advises surrogates out there on how to respond to questions about the beauty contest winner, alicia machado. Joining me right now is nbcs katy tur, kathleen parker, opinion writer for the washington post, as well. Katy, give me a sense, just, you
know everything about this fight. Im trying to keep up with it. Trump, ill start with my role. When youre in a hole, stop digging. Why does he keep talking about a beauty contestant, what, 20 years ago. Why does he keep wrapping himself in this Twilight Zone existence that he cant win. Theres no way he can win this argument. Theres no way that people are going to change their minds. He looks like the bad guy in this incident. Why doesnt he let it go . Its the same thing he did with judge curiel, when he was talking about how he wasnt fair and he was biassed and he shouldnt be presiding over the Trump University case. Its the same thing he did with the gold star families, and khizr khan. Now hes doing it with machado. He doesnt have the ability to let things go when he needs to let them go. He wants to defend himself. And oftentimes, when he does that, he digs himself into a deeper hole, as were seeing with machado. Im not sure how women will react, those suburban women that he is trying to get, when he says that he was actually protecting this woman, because she got too big. And for that matter, the president of the Miss Universe pageant told the washington
post at the time in 1997, the idea she was going to be decrowned or lose her job was bogus. That wasnt happening. This was already debunked 20 years ago. Donald trump is continuing his narrative, and so is his campaign. Kellyanne conway saying that this morning on the view. Im not sure why the campaign is Going Forward with it. Theyve even released this internal not released, weve obtained this internal memo that says wherever surrogates are asked about machado, they should instead pivot to Hillary Clinton, saying that she is trying to present herself as some sort of feminist champion, and that is a joke and encouraging those surrogates to say that Hillary Clinton attacked Monica Lewinsky and jennifer flowers and paula jones. They are enabling this story to live longer than it should. Conservative talk radio is already getting upset about this, including an iowa talk radio shows, steve deace, saying that donald trump doesnt have the ability to let go and that he keeps digging himself into a
hole. As you said, chris, when youre digging a hole, stop digging. Yeah, the question i have to ask is a very political one. It is not a moral one. In this sense, baghdad bob, we laugh about him, because he was the iraqi official who kept saying theyre winning a war theyre clearly losing. Kim i dont thijongun is sayin the olympics. You lose credibility when you say things are that they clearly arent. Hes going to be the bad guy, the heavy in this case, and thats the way its going to be. Reporter but let me counter let me give you a counter vision on that. What donald trump has been doing this sort of thing, since this campaign started. He often talks about crowd sizes being much larger than they actually are. He did it again today, saying there are thousands of people inside this venue, when the place only holds about 1,200, maybe 1,800 people, and there were only a little bit more than a thousand people here. He said there were 3,000 people waiting outside, when there was not anyone waiting outside. He has been presenting things that arent true as fact, now, for quite a while. It hasnt done anything to crack his credibility, with his base of supporters. That is why he won the primaries. What he has not realized, and thats because the polls are very tight, its potentially going to hurt him in the general election. Well have to see how it plays out. This has been such a topsyturvy campaign, but the polls are so close. And chris, if theres one thing that ive learned on this campaign l, its that donald trump pays attention to the polls, more than he pays attention to anything else. More than he pays attention to his advisers or his kids. If he stays close in the polls, hes not going to see a reason to change. If he drops down, then were going to see more debate prep. Then we might see him stray or get away from these negative topics. This thing is particularly bad, because there is so much past, you know, so many past comments from trump out there, that are
negative towards women. Theres countless howard stern interviews, where he talks about women, saying that, you know, its hard to be a 10 if youre flatchested. This enables his detractors to go out and dredge all of this stuff back up, present it, and say, donald trump is not a champion of women. He was in another business, its clear. Anyway, Trump Supporters have had to defend the candidates behavior this week. This a speech to the log cabin republicans last night, Newt Gingrich told catch this who were. Youre not supposed to gain 60 pounds during the year that youre Miss Universe. I dont think anybody gained 60 pounds. Asked about trumps behavior on fox last night, Kellyanne Conway tried to refocus the debate on Hillary Clintons negative ad campaign. Heres kellyanne. Yeah, im just wondering why shes spending tens of millions of dollars in negative ads and negative mail pieces and never putting together because shes killing him with women. And she sees an advantage there and shes trying to exploit it. And my question to you is whether he needs to come up with a better answer than telling
fox friends, well, she gained a bunch of weight when she won Miss Universe and she was a real problem. Well, now were conflating different things. What i would say to that is this. That he should speak to americas women based on the issues about which they care. Well well talk about that right now. Heres how conway, conway herself, kellyanne, defended trumps treatment of machado, the beauty contestant on the view today. In the past, hes called her an eating machine. I feel uncomfortable with it as a woman, but im curious allow you felt about those comments . Well, i dont discuss peoples weights and their looks. Im sure on your twitter feeds right now, you have viewers discussing my looks and my intelligence. Did you reprimand him for that and say, listen, why are you saying women are fat and why are you calling women fat pigs . Yes, i did. Whatd he say . That he gave that particular woman a second chance. She obviously has a troubled past that i wont get into. So what . Well, hold on
that has nothing to do with her being fat or skinny. This is going into a terrain where its fairly clear, kathleen, that trump cant win. And poor kellyanne, who ive known forever, she now has to flack this. Thats how you break your pick, when you go into a political argument on behalf of a candidate with an unwinnable argument, it undercuts you in all arguments. People say, if youre willing to defend that, we cant really rely on what youre telling us. Yeah, i feel sorry for her. But look, the reason he is doing this and the reason he cant let go, this is a psychological question. Which one . Well, no, he is developmentally a child. Thats why. Hes like the child who falls down and stands up and says, i meant to do that. And he cant admit ever being wrong. Hell never apologize for saying something that was rude or crude. Because in his mind, hes never wrong. You know why cant he pull back its a problem. Hes immature. Can he pull back and say, its a beauty contest, i dont set the rules, its based on
appearance, theres this prejudice towards thin, its been going on for a while. Im there doing a job, or should he just say, you know, i wasnt at my best that time. I should have been much more compassionate and empathetic and stop being such a bad guy pip mean, how do you step back from these situations, which are embarrassing in 2016, when your number one target are women, young women, in the suburbs, and youre trying to win them over, and they do worry about these issues of weight and everything, and are very sensitive points. They just are in our society. And he didnt create that. My reporting tells me that inside of Trumps Campaign, at trump tower, theres not a sense of stepping become. What they really are, are frustrated. Theyre frustrated in their minds. Why are we talking about this crap . They think that trump left a weapon on the side, that he didnt go after the clintons, that he didnt pivot. I spoke to Rudy Giuliani a few minutes ago. And he says, theres so much trump could say about the clintons past. Why . Thats been and of course, people like
Newt Gingrich are saying to the Trump Campaign, hey, maybe this is because they know look, im not into morality on this program. Im talking about politics. Three marriages, newt. Three marriages, trump. Three marriages, whos the other guy . Giuliani. I dont hold that against them at all. But these are glass houses. Why do they want to talk about this stuff . Because theres nothing else to talk about. Thats true. Theres no policy to talk about, so lets talk about fat women, you know . lets talk about clinton. The notion that theres a treasuretrove we all saw what happened. The republicans impeached bill clinton, right . They spent a whole summer going after him. Okay, okay. They may have had an argument morally or whatever, they had a case. But look what happened. The republicans lost the congress. I mean, Hillary Clinton got elected to the senate, because she stood up to this. And she show eed guts and poise and everybody else looked like a crazy person. The evidence is, hillary knows how to handle this topic, right . Right. She knows how to spin it right back at the other side, and shell look good. Nobodys going to blame her for bill. She didnt actually do it. What do you think they think . What did they ive been speaking to them for the last few hours. And my sense is, because of the way that that machado question came at the end of the debate, they all walked out into the spin room frustrated that trump dit come back in a certain way. Ever sin that night at hofstra, theyve been talking to each other, when it comes to st. Louis on october 9th, hes going to come back katy, my general notion is that trump is making the same mistake tuesday, wednesday, thursday, that he made on monday night, which is playing defense on personal history stuff. If he spends time what he should be talking about are jobs, the trade deals weve made, immigration, which is right illegal immigration, very unpopular, and stupid wars weve been fighting. Go to your bases, dance with the ones that brung it, stop playing on the enemys territory. Your thoughts. Whats he up to . Thats what hes trying to do. And he tried to do that today
here in new hampshire. He tried to move on from that subject. And they came out with a whole, you know, a cache of new or a cache excuse me, a cache of new very catchy talking points, saying that Hillary Clinton is corrupt and follow the money and then talking about the five people that got immunity. That being said, theres an issue that we arent really talking about here when it comes to trump and women. And thats not just his words about women. Its how his supporters behave and comport themselves at these rallies. You have many supporters wearing shirts that i couldnt repeat to you on camera, talking about Hillary Clinton and Monica Lewinsky. You have shirts that say, trump, that b. You have children calling Hillary Clinton a bwo. A couple ofays ago in florida, i saw a shirt that said, i wish hillary married o. J. These are images that are out there, and its not just the candidate, its the campaign
supporters that are pushing this narrative, that he is not a champion of women. And when youre trying to target suburban women or women who dont think donald trump is stable, they dont think hes trustworthy to get into the white house, they dont think that his interests are their interests, they dont think that hes going to fight for them, or maybe theyre weary of how hes treated women in the past. Nothing he can do now is going to fix that if you still see supporters at rallies wearing shirts like this and using terminology and chants like the ones we hear. Im just echoing in my head what he said to me back in march when i had my last interview with trump. He talked about, there has to be some sort of punishment about abortion. Here he is talking about weight issues, eating disorders, things like that. Are all on peoples minds. It is a crying situation we have to face in our society, that people do mothers worry about it, their kids worry about it, mothers worry about their kids. Too much of it. Its like the barbie doll debate. Why do we have a barbie doll with a certain notion of what a womans supposed to look like. This is sensitive stuff, and when he starts talking about punishing a woman for gaining weight, hes right back into that problem area he got into when he talked about abortion, punishing people because of the situation they find themselves in because of eating situations, not even disorders, he just doesnt like the look. And this is a problem for him. Talk to any human being, and most voters are women. Somebodys got to tell that to him. Most voters are women. Okay, thats all im saying. Katy tur, thank you. You got a hell of a story out there youre following. Robert costa, another case of that. And kathleen, great columnist. Coming up by the way, the number of newspapers youre in now, how many now . Oh, gosh, i cant keep out. 500 . I think youve got the record. I know thats the case. New evidence that Hillary Clintons strong debate performance is paying off with voters. Weve got the latest battleground state polling and its good news for Hillary Clinton. Thats why its bad news for trump. Plus, trumps team is taunting Hillary Clinton with bringing up bill clintons infidelities. Now the Clinton Campaign is warning that that strategy will backfire. I think theyre right. So how should Hillary Clinton respond if trump does go down that road in the next debate . And libertarian president ial candidate gary johnson told me last night that Hillary Clinton would pushing the nuclear button. I thought that was the big news last night. And by the way, he didnt come up with a single world leader he liked, even called it another aleppo moment for himself. How can clinton win back those Younger Voters that have supported gary johnson up until at least last night. Finally, my election diary for tonight. September 29th, just 40 days left until election day. 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According to new polling from pp, clinton leads trump in colorado by 5 points. The real clear politics average of polls has trump up by a hair, though. Next but its moving in one direction. Next to florida where clinton is up three points, clinton, 48, trump 45. The last poll had trump up by one. So its a fourpoint switch. In north carolina, clintons lead is four points, trump, 49, trump, 45. The latest poll had trmp leading there by two. A sixpoint change. In pennsylvania, clinton is leading by five point now, 4944. And the real clear politics average there had shrunk down to under two points. So thats changing. And in virginia, another state that i think will not go to trump, the new ppp poll has clinton up six, 4943, and thats in line with the latest real clear politics average. By the way, i still think the firewall is pennsylvania and virginia, that will keep trump from winning. Thats what i think now and have thought for a while. Well be right back. 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treatment of women, his campaign has launched a risky offensive. Going after Hillary Clinton for bill clintons infidelities. In the internal Trump Campaign memo i mentioned earlier in the show, Trumps Campaign has directed surrogates to spin the conversation away from trump and towards secretary clinton. The memo shows that they are directed to say that, quote, Hillary Clinton and her husband actively worked to destroy bill clintons accusers, and then Hillary Clinton bullieded and smeared women like paula jones, jennifer flowers, and Monica Lewinsky. Just yesterday on msnbc, marsha blackburn, one of trumps most prominent surrogates, from tennessee, u. S. Congresswoman, seemed to receive that memo. Lets watch. I find it so interesting that there continues to be this conversation about what he has said. When you look at what she has done, jennifer flowers, paula jones, Monica Lewinsky, my goodness. While trump may not have mentioned bill clintons infidelities and moneys debate, the campaign has a wellworn
discussion. However an number of u. S. Senators who support trump dont see the benefits of this conversation. Politico is reporting that gop senators who finally have grown more comfortable with trump warned in interviews wednesday that descending into bill clintons sexual past is dangerous territory for the gop nominee, who has his own lessthanpristine history. Thats the reporting. Late this afternoon, Hillary Clinton addressed the new line of attack. Here she is defending. He can run his campaign however he chooses. Thats thats up to him. Im going to keep talking about the stakes in election. Im going to keep talking about my agenda. For more on this impossible new line of attack that seems to be in the strategy memo, at least, im joined by republican pollster and strategist ed goiz, and cohost of the pollsters, marji omara. I think you guys are great. Ive known you for a lock time. If youre sitting in the back
room, with the towel over your shoulder, giving advice to the fighter, youve had a bad round, go for the inside. Hit her on her husbands behavior. Is this generally a topic that can turn this election . Is it a game changer . Its hard to believe this makes sense in terms of what theyre doing, except for one thing. And that is that if you look at hillarys negatives, its driven by the politics of her past. If you look at his negatives, its driven by his persona. This may be the only thing we can do to get someone else to deliver this message rather than him, because quite frankly, when hes out there leading this message, its like a fighter with a glass jaw, leading with his chin. Can you bring up, margie, hey, remember, bill clinton was impeached . Dont get into the weeds. If that was such a successful presidency, why did he get impeached. We have data on how this might affect Hillary Clinton. A National Poll in june asked a variety of things, how much does
this concern you about Hillary Clint clinton, they had seven or eight things. This was the least concerning thing tested. Do you trust the people polled . Or are people too squeamish, but in the end it affects how they vote. Of course i trust the polls. Dont people particularly say, i dont want to be somebody who carries about that stuff. Oh, she cares about this stuff. Do you want to be that person . Look, there are some social desirability biases, but not on that. I love that phrase. Social desirability biases. I think that is something people are honest about. So you think its a bad route to take. Look, democrats and republicans have come out over the last few days and said, you know, i dont think he should talk about this. Even people within the trump camp says, i dont know if i would say that. Newt gingrich, wise old owl that he is, is smart enough to know this is a vulnerability. You go after trump and i dont havent want to make judgments, except that its glass house stuff. Right . And the real issue here is that both of these candidates
are flawed and are deeply baked in. Baked in in regular talk means you cant get it out. All of these issues are baked into their negatives. Speaking of news, weve got some news right now, breaking news. Usa today has posted an editorial tomorrow urging voters not to vote for donald trump. They write, quote, in the 34year history of usa today, the Editorial Board has never taken sides in the president ial race. Instead, weve expressed opinions about the issues and never presumed to tell our viewers which choice is best for them, because every president ial race is different. We revisit our noendorsement policy every four years and have never seen reason to alter our approach until now. This year the choice isnt between two capable major nominees who happen to have major ideological differences. This year, one of the candidates, donald trump, is by unanimous consensus of our Editorial Board, unfit for the
presidency. This is all around. John warner, the other day, the grandee in virginia, the detroit newspaper the other day, is this too early for them to just close this out . These papers are acting like the rest of the campaign doesnt matter, this guy is not fit . What more information do we need . Obviously hes unfit. Is that their view or your view . Its americas view. But also your view . Its also my view. From what we hear from on both these candidates is this is the best we can do. A little late. And vice versa. Its a little late to decide. But it also plays into the polling. We talk about polling all the time. Polling assumes that both campaigns are equal on everything else. But when you look at money, you look at surrogates, look at endorsements, look at ground game, all those things have to be factored in, and its not going to let me give you something to factor in. Nobody on earth says theyre for donald trump, who arent going to show up and vote for them. While there are some people for
Hillary Clinton who wont show up to vote. And the trump people are real. Thats not what were seeing in our polling. Were seeing that theyre both running in the high 70s, saying theyre extremely likely to vote. The bigger problem is that 20 that dislike both candidates that are going with a third party candidates. And do they vote in this election or do they Vote Third Party . After last night, they may be not voting. How do you vote for gary johnson when east unfamiliar with the world . Now that youre done with him. I asked an openair question, name a world leader that you respect. I went through every continent. As i said last night, this wasnt asking who your favorite nigerian poet is. I was asking, who in the world do you like . Margie omara, ed goiz, thank you both. Up next, gary johnson, the aforementioned, couldnt tell me a single world leader respected in his World College tour. I suspect he didnt have a lot of names on his list, period. Not one. He also said that Hillary Clinton would push the nuclear button. He said, twice that she would
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out. Other passengers were crawling on the ground. Wires were hanging from the ceiling. There was twisted metal everywhere. People were crawling to safety. About 108 people were injured and transported to area hospitals. Now, this is what the ntsb has ahead of them. Theyve recovered two data recorders from the front and the back of the train, so theyll be going through those for information. Theyll also be looking at video. Recorders were on the outside of the train recording out. Theyll be examining whether there was a mechanical error, whether it was human error, whether there was something wrong with the signals or even the tracks. Melissa . Tammy, thank you. Back to hardball. Who is a world leader that you admire, respect, would like to emulate and why . Well, i think merkel is a really great world leader, but i was very disappointed that when she, the whole move on immigration. I think its a big problem. Whos your favorite world leader . Oh, let me think . Look, i like a lot of the World Leaders. One of my favorites is angela merkel, because i think shes been an extraordinary, strong leader, during difficult times in europe. Welcome back to hardball. Hillary clinton was having fun with that. That was donald trump and Hillary Clinton today. They bothed named angela merkel, chancellor of germany, when asked about a world leader they personally admire. Last night during a Hardball College Tour at the university of new hampshire, libertarian candidate, gary johnson, seemed to draw a blank when i asked him that same question. Lets take a look. Whos your favorite foreign leader . Whos my favorite just name anywhere in the country. Any of the continents, any country. Name one foreign leader that you spect and look up to. Anybody. Mine was shimon peres. Im talking about living. You got to do this. Canada, mexico, europe, over
there, asia, south america, africa, name a foreign leader that you respect. I guess im having an aleppo moment in the former im giving you the whole world. Anybody in the world you like. Pick any leader. The former president of mexico. Which one . Im having a brain well, name anybody. Fox . Calderon. Name a foreign leader. Merkel. Merkel, fine. Tonight governor johnson tweeted, its been almost 24 hours and i still cant come up with a foreign leader i look up to. I think it was coming up with a name of a foreign leader. How badly did last nights appearance derail johnsons campaign . Im joined by some smart alecks. And the washington posts opinion writer, the great jonathan. Okay, jonathan. Thats your response, eh . Watching that, even for the 900th time, and watching it like this, its so horrifying for
him, for governor weld. Weld looked very uncomfortable. And as i just said, you ask him, give me a name of a mexican leader, he couldnt, but weld listed some mexican leaders i forgot about. He did mknow that. It was like one of those things from austin powers, the ejection seat. Please, push that button. I want to disappear. Oh, i know, it was so incredibly excruciatingly painful to watch it. Its still painful to watch it. And just what it says about his candidacy is this is a man whos completely unprepared. I mean, youd think after the aleppo moment, that he even referenced with, that he would have boned up a little bit, and it just seemed like, it seemed like it wasnt even that he couldnt think of a leader he admired, it seemed like he couldnt even name a leader. And that to me is just so i was thinking over this in my head, to be honest about it, i do not know all the leaders of the 56 countries in africa, but i know a couple that are pretty
good. Im looking at kenyata, who is doing pretty well. And i look at ian camma, i know some of that. I dont know much about latin america. But you have an option game here. I said, anywhere. You can go to merkel, hollande, anybody, cameron, theresa may, you can go to justin trudeau. Yeah. Come on but he didnt i think its a question of the newspaper habit. I mean, they used to talk about to kennedy, do you or do you not, whatever the equivalent is today, do you have the habit of getting up each day and trying to keep up with the world . Is it something thats in you or not . And just the curiosity factor. Just picking up the paper. You can be antiinterventionist, but if youre going tbe commander in chief, theres a seriousness toth presidency there are a lot of voters out there who dont like trump or clinton and theyre taking safe harbor in this idea of johnson, but you have to think King Abdullah of jordan. Really good allies. One area where governor johnson and his running mate openly disagreed last night, whos more qualified to be commander in chief. This one, i thought, was the bigger news. Hillary clinton is clearly qualified to be commander in chief and president of the United States. How about the other guy . Donald trump is clearly not qualified. And ive encouraged him almost with affection to think of some other job or profession he would like to ive suggested the laundry business. He could do great in the laundry business. Hes got business smarts, but president of the United States is the wrong tree to be barking up for him. I think shes going to i think shes going to press the button. What . Well, if confronted with that ten minutes, shes going to be hawkish, shes going to be more hawkish in that role. You think she has a happy trigger . I think shes not going to air on the side of not being the aggressor. You think it would be a precarious situation if she had Nuclear Capabilities . I think shes going to shoot. Shes going to shoot. Shes not going to be herself, shes not going to be perceived
as weak, shes going to shoot. You did see an audience of young peep, mostly College Students at the university of new hampshire, believe hillarys hawkish, to the point of shooting. Did you see that applause . That wasnt encouraged, by the way. That was just applauded. That is hillarys problems among progressives, the impression shes hawkish. Im not sure where in the world hes coming up with that idea . You cant press a button you know how i set that up, i watched a very powerful on 60 minutes, he talked about the ten minutes out of Strategic Air command in omaha where this general out there gets a call from the president of the United States, they determine its the president , and in ten minutes, theyve got to determine what to do in response to an alert, if something looks like its coming. And in that clip, that demonstrated why i think that ticket should be flipped. Bill welds answer to your question was thoughtful, responsive, and gary johnson was just glib. He was as glib in his answer as he thinks Hillary Clinton would
be as commander in chief. Lets make some news now, because he also said, off the camera, but on the record, he said that he thinks that his old opponent, john kerry, deserves the Nobel Peace Prize for what he did with the iranian peace deal. That was on the regular. It sure was, governor weld. The roundtable is staying with us and up next, these three will tell me something i dont know. Aarp Medicare Supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. Like any standardized Medicare Supplement plan, youll be able to stay with the doctor or specialist you trust. Or look for someone new as long as they accept medicare patients. And youre not stuck in a network. Because there arent any. So why wait . Call now to request your free decision guide and learn more. For patients like lynn, advanced Genomic Testing may lead to other Treatment Options that can work. Learn how Genomic Testing is changing the way we fight cancer at cancercenter. Com genomics you know what, guys . Theres a lot of tree branches and dry brush over here. We should probably move the bonfire over there. [smokey whistling a tune] im guessing smokey liked that idea. Were back with the hardball roundtable. Tell me something i dont know. In brooklyn, theyre not excited thats like berlin in the war. They could not be happier with how easy donald trump proved to bait in that first debate. And theyre really secretly rooting for him to play the l lewinsky card. Even though its a little uncomfortable, they think if he goes after bill clinton, he walks right into the same trap that he belittles women. I completely agree. The clintons, again, know how to play this baby. They do. Also about the clintons, theres been a lot of discussion, particularly among reporters about the crowd sizes that clinton is having. Theyre not quite as big as 1,200. Compared to 3,000 for somebody else. But what people do not realize is that these are very strategically located events. So clinton had a smaller crowd size today in des moines, but it was directly next door to an early voting center. So those 1,200 people, you can bet if they were there to cheer on clinton, they were you say they want smaller crowds . They want i know they want those crowds are we getting spun here . Go ahead. My podcast on tuesday, i have an interview with rob reiner. He had great things to say about you, with chris, and your interview of donald trump. But the big news for me in the interview is i asked him, because hes so passionate about Public Policy and Public Service, if Hillary Clinton were to approach him and ask him to serve in her administration, would he, he said yes, and his
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know, accumulation of attention and money. You know, this seems like a different kind of election. Not just as symmetric in terms of the personalities and motivations. Usa today came out tonight, its going to be in the paper tomorrow, theyre endorsing against trump. Papers like the newspaper down in texas, the dallas paper the detroit paper. People that are normally republican whatever you want to call them, establishment, are dismayed by trump. Well, i got to say, i always used to joke that the fakest thing aside from my teeth about the west wing was we had rational republicans and wouc s the things that really upsets me is an election is not a personality contest. It is an opportunity for us to have an important discussion about how to face these tremendously urgent issues, and this rodeo clown has sucked all the oxygen out of the room. And i think its its not
good for us. Well, explain this because great political leaders, whether its fdr, lincoln, kennedy, all of them, obama, they all have the able to entertain in a broad sense. In a sense that grab your attention, keep your attention. Theyre not boring people. They have to be good on temperature. How does trump corrupt that we were allowed to look for charisma. Its not a bad thing. How is he corrupting that . Well, listen, he is fantastic television in the same way watching a car wreck is fascinating television. Hes hypnotic because of his utter lack of shame and his moral bankruptcy. Its a hypnotic thing to watch. I just want to say, you know, ive been list tong yoing to yo in the car on way over here. Here we are talking about a candidate who is fat shaming people, a candidate who mocks people with disabilities. If i got a call from my sons
school and heard that he was mocking someones disabilities, that he was making fun of flatchested girls, fat shaming girls, i would disown him. And yet at a time when we should be discussing, and i really want kids to understand how important this election is. Five Supreme Court justices. Theres a lot of things okay. That we cant take for granted. Youre a serious guy. Thank you so much. A hell of an actor, by the way. I love your Hubert Humphrey. I mean it. I love hubert. You made it come to life. Thank you. Thank you so much. Anyway, thank you bradley whitford. When we return, my election diary for tonight, with just 40 days left until the Campaign Ends with an election. You push
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