Nunberg. Earlier in the week, he stormed cable news to say he would not cooperate with Robert Muellers investigation despite a subpoena. Well, today, cameras were rolling as he did arrive at the federal courthouse in washington prepared to talk to a grand jury. And finally, the dramatic announcement last night President Trump had agreed to meet with north Koreas Kim Jongun within months hours after his own secretary of state told reporters were a long way from negotiations. All the more startling, the announcement was made by south Koreas National Security Adviser at the white house to brief officials on his recent talks with the north Korean Leader. Shortly after 5 00 p. M. , President Trump popped his head into the press Briefing Room to tease a major announcement on north korea. Catching white house staffers off guard. Two hours later, the south korean National Security adviser told reporters kim jongun is committed to denuclearization and will refrain from any further nuclear tests. He expressed his eagerness to meet President Trump as soon as possible. President trump officiated the briefing and said he would meet kim jongun by may to achieve denuclearizati denuclearization. President trump will accept the invitation at a place and time to be determined. Trump tweeted 30 minutes after that, kim jung un talked about denuclearization with the southian representatives, not just a freeze. No missile testing by ng during this period of time. Sanctions will remain till an agreement is reached. Meeting being planned. Itude Sarah Huckabee sanders offered a more cautious message insisting there wont be a meeting till north korea takes concrete actions. Watch her. Theyve made promises to denuclearryize to stop testing and were not going to have this meeting take place till we see concrete actions that match the words and rhetoric of north korea. Reporter is there a possibility these talks with kim jongun may not happen . Theyve got to the follow through on the promises that theyve made. We want to see the concrete and verifiable action on that front. Is it possible that could not happen . There are a lot of things possible. Im not going to sit here and walk through every hypothetical that could exist in the world. The president has accepted that invitation on the basis that is we have concrete and verifiable steps. Well, as Senior Administration official later told nbc news, theres no new conditions such as inspections being added to the talks. It goes back to what was said last night. Denuclearization is a longterm goal. Bill richardson is a former ambassador to the u. N. , he has negotiated with the north koreans in the past. Susan page. Bill richardson, governor, thank you so much. You were the first name i thought of this morning. Tell me, what do you make of this . Well, im confused. I came out yesterday saying that this summit was a good idea with a lot of risks, but i commended the president because we need a game change ker, a hail mary pass in a Korean Peninsula that is very, very, very tenuous. And very tense. Now, with this had new statement by the White House Press secretary, im confused. What does it exactly mean . Denuclearize before the meeting . Concrete steps. Thats been overruled. Bill, in the last few minutes, theyve said ignore huckabee sanders. Were going back to what was said last night. The meeting is to establish a denuclearization. It doesnt come before the meeting. Thats good. But at the same time, you know, the secretary of state obviously was not consulted. Hes in djibouti in africa. He should be back. What the president needs to do, get your act together, white house. Get the white house and the pentagon and the state department especially on a coherent strategy. What do we get before the meeting . Because the White House Press statement, im glad its been corrected, is very confusing. Hes not going to denuclearryize before the meeting. Well be lucky if he does at all. Are they going to have cupcakes at the meeting . Pler susan, your paper went to bed before this i noticed last night, before this. You go to bed at 3 00 in the afternoon . Were a digital publication and online all of the time. What do you make of this . I think both these leaders get something they want which is international acclaim, stature. For kim jongun this is already a victory for him because hes going to meet facetoface with the u. S. President. And you know, for President Trump, this is one more example of his willing to be disruptive. This is not the way our policy toward north koreaing is usually developed and rolled out. This is something quite different and maybe it will come to a bad end. At least as governor richardson is one of the few people who negotiated with north korea in the past has said, maybe its got the potential to shake things up. What was an alternative for the president once the word came through the north korean lead they are the dictator wanted to meet and was talking denuclearization and agreeing to end all his testing and showing good faith, what was the alternative answer . No, forget about it . The alternative answer is lets actually see you spend a couple months not doing missile testing. Consider opening up to weapons inspectors. Thats do something that works towards. Not in a million years he would do that. Hes saying he is going to. Lets see what happens. This is the challenge with diplomacy. Welcome any type of move towards diplomacy. The challenge is kim jongun is probably the more rational actor of the two. You mean that. We have a president of the United Statesent who is a chaos agent. We dont know what he will say from one day to the next. We note that kim jongun has always seen it as a mark of success to be seen side by side with the president of the United States as a legitimate state. He is banking on this to be not seen as a rogue terror threat. He doesnt get that the unless he deals. People. How hes going to get this other than hes agreed to it. If he pulls some number in hawaii or wherever they meet in the dmz on the 38th parallel and he pulls a tantrum and starts banging his shoe on the table or pulls some number thats not serious, he doesnt get any respect, does . He just for the meeting itself even if he looks like a fool . Well, i believe kim jongun did this meeting for the following reasons. One, he wants to stay in power. He wants to be like his grandfather kim ill sung. Secondly, i think sanctions are biting. They are hurting him. The chinese have done a little more. And third this chris, what he wants is to be an equal with the United States. Of course, he isnt. But hes always said, and the north koreans when ive been there they always say the big powers in the region are not china, south korea. Theyre us, north korea and you, the United States. Soapy think this meeting has to be carefully planned or its going to be a disaster. Its got to be probably i would think in pan mun john so both sides can say this is the dms or in china. Or in geneva. Although i doubt jaeb because its in europe. Thats always been a neutral site. I think its important that this summit take place. Things cant be going worse in that peninsula. I think the south koreans deserve the main credit for getting the summit with the north koreans and then brokering perhaps a summit with kim jongun. Kim jongun has gone from a bomb thrower to being i wont say a rational actor, but a man with a plan that knows where he wants to end up. I think hes been underestimated. Do you think hes willing to give up Nuclear Weapons . No, no, but i think its still worth to talk to him about curbing their use. Hes not going to dismantle them. Hes got about 20. I think its worth talking about missiles, talking about stopping research, stopping the work of missiles with the warhead that could hit the United States. Conventional weapons. Stop threatening south korea. There are 25 million south koreans. American troops in japan. And south korea. I think there are a lot of positive steps. Also, weve got three americans detained there. Get them out. Weve got american remains of our soldiers from the korean war. I got seven out in 2007 under president bush. We should push to get agreements on those soft power areas that i think might lead to serious reductions in their nuclear arsenal. Theyre going to have a price, chris. Theyre not going to do this for free. Lets get ready. Youve been through this whole whats on the table . Would we recognize them . Normalize relations if they get rid of their Nuclear Program or limit it . Is that on the table. Normally you have an ambassador conversation. We dont even have an ambassador. Well accept the fact that they run that part of korea. This is so far beyond what the expectation of Foreign Policy and how we operate as an international community. Everythinging about Foreign Policy in this administration fits under that rubric right now. Theres zero benefit to the United States for acknowledging north korea particularly this early. I argue theres zero benefit to the United States to dangle out a meeting, a confirmed meeting with the president of the United States. Recognize north korea without Nuclear Weapons. Were better off with a north korea that feels under threat and that the United States has a top dog position, not when were seen as equals. Under obama, under w, they kept building Nuclear Weapons. That approach didnt work. Why are you speaking with such confidence here . Nothing worked before. The effort to denuclearize nok is a direct result of years and years of sanctions that have crippled the economy, hurt him politically in his own country. This is the fact that we are at a position where they are willing to negotiate they are the the ones throwing the hail mary pass is an opportunity for the United States. We should use it smartly and be strategic. Who gets credit for this coming together, obama or trump . A combination of every presidency before this. Including trump. Every presidency before this and south korea. Including trump. Youre not going to give him anything. No is, not this one because even the following day, his own administration is stepping on its own potential bold move. This was a bold move, do it. Instead you have a White House Press secretary gotten stuck with getting talking points from the pentagon, from the state department. I agree with you. What do you think about that . Governor richardson said things couldnt be worse, they could be worse. One of the great risks on the peninsula is an accidental war because we have such a lack of trust. If you have a meeting that breaks down in mutual recriminations we could end up in a worse situation. I dont think the little guy benefits from that either. Former governor bill richardson, thank you for coming on short notice. You were our First Responder susan page, thank you both for your expertise. Coming up, trumps lawyers are reportedly looking to strike a deal with the special counsel. It the president will agree to an interview as long as mule ter wraps up his investigation. Fat chance. Who thinks hes going to agree to these terms . Plus what, does putin think before President Trump . Megyn kelly just returned from interviewing the russian president. And the president s lawyer Michael Cohen used his Trump Organization email while arranging a hush money payment top adult film star Stormy Daniels. 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Do you think they were more interested in trump related to the criminal hacking which occurred and stolen emails or in relation to all stoeshl media. Something with his business. Wow. Meanwhile the wall street journal is now reporting trumps lawyers are seeking the deal they hope will bring the probe to be an end they say. According to a person familiar with the discussions, the president s legal team is considering telling mr. Mueller that mr. Trump would agree to a sitdown interview based on multiple considerations including that the special counsel commit to a date for concluding at least the trump related portion of the investigation. One idea is to suggest a deadline of 60 days from the date of the trump interview. Well, a trump attorney tells nbc news the report is totally false. It comes after trumps legal team has repeatedly promised that the investigation would soon be over. First they said it would end by last thanksgiving, then crist, then the beginning new year. Im joined by an expert who can be see through all the vines, ken dilanian. This is nonsense. You know, first of all, i have no idea that he you you have some evidence what theyve got on trump and then he says i have no idea what it is. Is this guy worth listening to . Nunberg . Does he know anything . The most interesting thing he said he thinks theyre using him to build a case against roger stone. The domino thing, get roger, you get manafort, get flynn, get the president. Yeah, he seemed and also, hes telling us he believes they have something on donald trump related to his businesses. It was cryptic. Ing whatting about this manafort guy Walking Around in leg irons . Two electronic legs. One for virginia, one for d. C. Use your into you yigs. Is that to make the guy feel good about spilling the beans. That was his choice. He fought consolidation of the two cases. Hes facing a total of 30 years in prison. And wearing two chains. Two ankle monitors. That sentence is the guidelines. So i cant imagine him not pleading. Lee experts are saying this is a really strong case against him. Either he thinks hes got a pardon or well see a plea at some point. Hes going to be like the count of month i cristo. This week we learned about iraq prince, the unofficial advisor to the trump transition. A meeting he held with a Russian Oligarch in the say shells is appears to be unraveling in new reporting. A cooperating witness has told mueller the meeting was set up in advance so a representative of the trump transition could meet with an emissary from moscow. People familiar with the matter say theres evidence showing the purpose was to establish a back channel between the incoming administration, thats trumps crowd, and the kremlin. Prince however, told the House Intelligence Committee in november he only had a chance encounter with the russian out there and that he was not representing the incoming administration. If you lie to congress, thats a felony, right . Absolutely. This is really interesting. Theyve got erik prince now. Well, depends on the strength of that evidence. They would need a lot. They have a transcript of prince under oath saying i was just at this meeting by chance. I wasnt even representing the Trump Campaign. I came to meet with the uae folks. Its fascinating. This guy george nader who is now cooperating with mueller is an interesting character. You know what this shows . This investigation is expanding. Of course. Weve reported that. Its an octopus. Its now about Jared Kushners meeting with uae people. Its incredible. The idea theyre going to do a 60day deadline will trump get nis his nobel prize for peace before it happenses . Just kidding. One of the big Unanswered Questions through the investigation has been why President Trump continues to show such niceness toe putin . Megyn kelly put that question to Vladimir Putin. She put it to him himself as part of a primetime special on nbc tonight called confronting putin. Lets watch. Let me ask you about President Trump. Anytime he says anything about you, it is supremely differential. Never a harsh word for you. If you look at the way he speaks about members of his own party and his own staff, never mind other leaders he frequently personally insults them. Why do you think hes so nice to you . Transi dont believe he treats me personally with reservence. Hes an experienced person, a businessman within vast experience and he understands if it is necessary to establish a cooperative relationship with someone, then you have to treat your current or potential partner with respect. Otherwise, nothing will come of it. I think this is a purely pragmatic approach firstly. Secondly, despite the fact that hes a firsttime president , still hes a quick study after all. And he understands very well that this level where we are engaging in mutual accusation and insults, this is a road to nowhere. And if you have noticed, i always treat my colleagues not only in the United States but in europe and in asia with unwavering respect. Meghan, thank you for joining us. Great get as we say in the business. I like to ask the same question after a big interview. What didnt we see . Was there is something about this kg bs aspect . Hes a little guy. Hes 56, weighs about 150 pounds. He looks like a guy who has been in torture rooms. He knows what it is to terrify somebody. Your thoughts . First of all, i like your name for our special better than our name. Put putin it to putin, i like that a lot. What was surprising this time was just how kind he was when the cameras werent rolling. You know, like a gentleman. And he can appear extremely polite, thoughtful. He offered us a grand tour of the grand kremlin which we took and took our cameras there too so the audience will see that to know. A charmer is how he wishes to be to project. What you see in putin is what he wants you to see. Then you get him in front of the cameras and hes this fiery combative leader we have seen so many times. W said that he could see into his soul. What did you make of that . Maybe thats what he was talking about, the charm. The attempted charm. Absolutely not. Putin you see in putin what he wants you to see. The man was in the kgb and knows how to manipulate people. His whole life he spent doing it. Even when we were there the last time he spent time off camera telling me about his love for his children and his mother. Im a mother of three young children. Hes very smart. You get the impression hes the smartest man in every room. So you know, you should not try to outwi tt putin. Thats note going to happen. But you can as i did in this interview, try to box him in a bit because i have facts. And with all due respect to the russian president , he wasnt telling it the truth about the matters that i was examining him on. And we knew that. He knew it and i knew it. It led to there was almost a silver back gorilla thing going on between the two of us where we were looking at each other. He knew i was coming with facts but hes slippery. This time i was able to actually show him, this is what the indictment says. This is what the emails say. This is the proof that ties you to this person and so on. And we really got into it. It the old marxist lennon mentality, you dont be the truth. You serve what serves the state. You also asked him about President Trumps twitter habit. Lets watch that exchange. Dourve read his tweets . No. Do you ever tweet . Translator no. Why not in the. Translator i have other ways of expressing my point of view or implementing a decision. Domd is a more modern individual. Would you say hes more colorful than you are . Translator perhaps. Well, that was an easy one. That was actually a moment of levity. Is there a bromance between these guys . Do they like each other or is it just rivals as simple as that . I wouldnt go that far. I would not say that putin likes trump. Did i not glean that at all from him. I do think i did green perhaps he has something on donald trump. If you watch the special tonight, youll see perhaps what that might be because weve done a lot of research. Its not just vladimir out putin its a lot of experts who you understand it them and the relationship between the two. When i was asking him why do you think donald trump never says anything under kind about you ever, its more than at the admires this russian strongman. Theres a very good chance putin knows things about donald trump that mr. Trump does not want repeated likely. Is it the dossier . Just having done the research we did for this piece and this investigative report, i think it has to do with money and trumps early years dealing with the russians back in the 90s, his facilities here in the United States and i asked Vladimir Putin about that, as well. Its pretty comprehensive. I did want to tell you, i gave it to him pretty good on election interference. Youll see him dance a bit. Can you imagine i did get a question in about the shirtless putin and whats up with all that . Ill let that you have that line. I did think its interesting, youve gone into something with your questioning and your sense of interpreting it that maybe the sam nunberg guy who has thrown out that thing this week theres something on the business end. As i watched nunberg and erik prince and all of this, keep in mind, all of this, all of this ultimately links back to Vladimir Putin. Thats why were talking about manafort and flynn and nunberg and all these guys. Its because of what Vladimir Putin did in our president ial race and let me tell you, what hes planning to do in 18 and 20, as well. When you listen to him talk, you dont get the impression the man has been chilled in any way from his robust approach to our elections. Thats because we havent done anything. Weve done nothing to push back after his interference. Wow. Meghan, great thing. Megyn kelly big get. Thank you so much. Everyone will be watching tonight. Watch more of the exclusive interview with Vladimir Putin tonight at 10 00 eastern. 29 00 central on nbc. And up next, nbc news has learned Michael Cohen used his Trump Organization email, get that . While arranging that hush money to Stormy Daniels. 130k. Is there a crime here . Is this something mr. Mueller is going to go after . Is it a crime that can put this guy in jail and make him talk a lot . This is hardball where the action is. For the first time. Trying something new can be exciting. Empowering. Downright exhilarating. See for yourself why chevrolet is the most awarded and Fastest Growing brand, the last four years overall. Switch into a new chevy now. Current qualified competitive owners and lessees can get this 2018 chevy equinox for around 199 a month. Chevrolet. Find new roads. For around 199 a month. 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Nbc has also learned that Stormy Daniels earn attorney at the time address correspondence top cohn as special counsel to donald j. Trump. Didnt do it on his own. Cohn back in february told nbc news neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump Campaign was a party to the transaction with mrs. Clifford. Of miss clifford rather. And neither reimbursed me for the payment. Either directly or indirectly. Paint to miss clifford was lawful and was not a Campaign Contribution or expenditure by anyone. In an opinion piece published two days ago, the Government Watchdog Group common cause argued opposite to that. By faying to report the payment as a campaign expense, the Trump Campaign violated multiple federal disclosure laws and depending on the source of the 130,000 paid to daniels, the payment may also have been an illegal contribution. The president s press secretary has denied allegations of an intimate relationship between the president and daniels. For more im joined by katie phang. I guess a lot of people watching are wondering, does this mean that robert mueller, the special counsel looking for any crime by trump involving the 2016 election certainly in that much wider orbit than that but in the target zone, was the law broken by someone paying 130,000 to this person to keep quiet about something that would hurt his campaign and the payment made a week before the actual election makes it look like a campaign related event . Your thoughts about the exposure as you lawyers say, exposure of mr. Trump here . Well, exposure seems to be a word bandied about a little bit when it comes to daniels as a porn star. To your question, chris, anybody remember john edwards . He got indicted for doing exactly the same thing, taking Campaign Contributions and money to basically silence his mistress so as to influence the outcome of the president ial election that he was running for. So is that weve got going on here . But that was a hung jury. That wasnt resolved in court. That jury couldnt decide. Bunny said she just liked john edwards and did it as a favor and didnt see it as a Campaign Contribution. Thats her point of view the. Heres the thing. It begs request the question. Ep Michael Cohen said he took out a home equity line of credit to put it in an llc account to be able to pay off Stormy Daniels. Why . Why is he randomly paying 130,000 . Now you have a problem. People like the fec is interested. The House Judiciary Committee sent a letter to Michael Cohen and two other gentlemen saying you might want to explain why you gave this money and by the way, there might be tax issues because the tax treatment on this money would trigger other violations of federal law. So Michael Cohens now opening a huge pandoras box because he keeps on opening his mouth and keeps on trying to give excuses that dont have legal viability in terms of being credible. Just to make an argument against it, is every aid you give, every contribution to a candidate a Campaign Contribution . You can say i drive his kids to school or anything that helps him. I helped his wife carry account groceries home. Is anything a contribution to the wellbeing of a candidate a Campaign Contribution . Heres the thing. It has to be a reported in kind contribution. Theres a certain valuation amount that gets triggered. 130,000 pursuant to a Settlement Agreement that Michael Cohen, the llc and this dennis son guy who we know is donald trump is implicated we know this is hush money paid to Stormy Daniels to keep her quiet. Now were going to go back to the litigation. Were going to figure out where had goes. Heres the problem for Michael Cohen and for donald trump and heres the problem for the Trump Campaign and here is why mueller might be interested. Through the course of the discovery process, youre going to have depositions. Youre going to having discovery requests and Bank Statements turned over and you know that mueller is the key guy to follow the money. So heres the essential question, chris. Where did that money come from . Did it really come from a heloc . If it was think all of rules of professional conduct Michael Cohen is in violation of in his home state of new york where he is a licensed attorney. The attorney general of new york might be interested. This president cant pardon his own behavior in new york state. Thank you. You followed it all the way. Thanks so much, katie fang for being our expert. Up next, President Trumps go it alone approach. Hes willing to rely completely on his own instincts even if it puts him at odds with everyone around him his experts, secretary of state, National Security adviser. They were all ignored yesterday when he went to town on this north korean gambit. Youre watching hardball. Nav. I do outrank my husband, not just being in the military, but at home. 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Which is why i alone can fix it. Welcome back to hardball. That was President Trump at the Republican National convention in 2016 claiming he was the only person who could fix americas problems. Trump put his go it alone strategy on display this week first with his move to impose new steel and aluminum tariffs then to meet with north Korean Leader kim jongun. Time and time again he made it clear its his own judgment alone that matters. Im an outsider. Used to be an inside to be honest with you, okay . I know the inside and i know the outside. And thats why im the only one that can fix this mess, folks. Nobody is going to be able to do the kind of things i can do. But let me tell you, the one that matters is me. Im the only one that matters because when it comes to it, thats what the policy is going to be. Youve seen that strongly. The New York Times petr bake irrights whether its middle east peace or trade agreements trump has repeatedly claimed he can achieve what has eluded every other occupant through the force of his personality. So far little to show it. Could north korea be the exception . Theres one crucial variable at play this time around. And well get to that next with the hardball roundtable. So, that goal youve been saving for, you can do it. We can do this. At fidelity, our online planning tools are clear and straightforward so you can plan for retirement while saving for the things you want to do today. Whoo while saving for the things hey, need fast try cool mint zantac. It releases a cooling sensation in your mouth and throat. Zantac works in as little as 30 minutes. Nexium can take 24 hours. Try cool mint zantac. No pill relieves heartburn faster. Welcome back to hardball. Earlier this week, President Trump was asked about the motivation behind the initial diplomatic overtures from north korea. To have what do you owe this recent openness to talk . Me. Nobody got that. I think that they are sincere. The sanctions have been very, very strong. And very biting. And we dont want that to happen. So i really believe they are sincere. I hope theyre sincere. Were going to soon find out. President trump was joking about his role in opening nuclear talks, you could say, the decision to september kims offer was trumps alone. Just a short time ago trump tweeted the deal with north korea is very much in the making and will be if completed a very good one for the world. Time and place to be determined. Lets bring in the roundtable. Clarence page from the Chicago Tribune did, gibson from the rioters news service and gabe a political reporter for politico. Where are we headed . Not toward the apocalypse i hope. What do you think . This is something that trump really wants. He doesnt know very much how to get there, but its going to take longer than he thinks though. Hes already conceding that. And this is just an opening something kim jongun wants. I cant help but think like a lot of people do that kim is just waiting to get into a room with trump and roll him. If little kim decides hes going to make an ass out of himself before the world, i dont see how thats a victory for him. If he pounds his shoe on the table like khrushchev, doesnt he need a resolution to look good . Donald trump is learning in his time as president that negotiating as the chief executive is not the same as negotiating the price of windows whenever youre building a new hotel. Its a lot more complicated and comprehensive than that. You cant just have one meeting where you say, yeah, youre going to give me a good price . Ip well let everyone else work out the details and well call it a day. Thats what hes used to. Theres a ton of variables that could make this look different or feel different. Hes already seeing his own white house walk back some of the things hes said. But they were talked back themselves an hour later by the white house. Already more complicated than that. The thing to watch here is not whats going to happen when the meeting happens, its what the rhetoric out of the white house and some of our allies across the world including asia is over the next few weeks. There was a lot of consternation when it came out. Chinese dont want peace in the peninsula there. Forget the chinese for a second. Even the members of the president s own administration dont necessarily like this. Lets not forget he clashed with secretary of state tillerson over the north korea issue before. I dont care about the bureaucratic problems. Are we going to end the Nuclear Threat from north korea and will this get us there. Whats he willing to give up. He wants to travel the world and live like a normal world leader. With the draw of u. S. Troops. He wants to be recognized. He wants to be guaranteed we wont invade him. Whats trump willing to give up is the question. A man who railed against. Thats giving it up. To recognize north korea is not going to be popular on the right. He has to find success and what success means and whats a fair trade. He controls a lot of that image and discussioning. The reason that i bring up the bureaucratic infighting, there is real substance aligned with that. Whenever two leaders meet especially in situations like this it tends to be after months and months of negotiations with their teams. Very clearly ha hasnt it this time or not in the way it traditionally does. We have to watch whats happening behind the scenes and in public what some of our allies say. That will give us real hints what this will look like. If that doesnt happen, theres a chance they sit down in a room with no cameras and we have no idea what he comes out of it. Obviously kim wants to be recognized on an international stage. Thats not ideal for trump but we dont know what he wants out of this except for recognition hes sitting down with kim jongun. Dont they both want to avoid a war . Trump wants a place in history. Dont they both want top avoid nuclear conflict. I would hope so. Theres interesting commentary how if shes talks fail, we go back to the default position which is already who your threatening possible strikes that or some type of combat. The danger of these talks coming apart is that it will make trump angrier and kim more unstable. The roundtable sticking with us. Up next, they tell me something i dont know. Youre watching hardball. Thank you. Imagine if the things you bought every day. Earned you miles to get to the places you really want to go. With the united mileageplus explorer card, youll get a free checked bag. Two united club passes. Priority boarding. 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Trump watch friday march 9th, 2018. President trump is aiming high. Hes hoping to kill the Nuclear Threat from north korea and a high stakes meeting with the countrys dictator. Who among us doesnt want him to succeed or worry that it could fail leading perhaps to an even more heightened state of danger. In agreeing to parlay, trump is committing himself to a historic challenge, now the little boy president kennedy once imagined who throws his cap over a wall to force himself to climb over it. Once having agreed to a meeting trump must contend with all the consequences. Hes not the first president to trap himself into a contest that offers swift victory but also colossal embarrassment or something worse. Nixon went to china in 72, splitting the worlds twos greatest communist powers and opening the door for us to beijing. Jimmy carter invited and war sa bat and beginton to camp david. Ronald reagan and mick cal gorbachev signaled the end to the cold war. Before these events, there was one directly affecting korea. With 20,000 americans killed in the conflict, Dwight Eisenhower made this promise on the eve of the 1952 president ial election. I shall go to korea. Within months of taking office, president eisenhower succeeded in brokering armistice on the peninsula that has sustained to this day. Ike made that promise in 52 based on a unique track record. He Dwight Eisenhower was the allied leader who accepted the nazi surrender seven years earlier. For donald trump, success in north korea would be less of a proven leader delivering on his track record than that of a Nuclear Stakes case of beginners luck. Then again, what normal person isnt hoping it works. Thats had for now. Thanks for being with us. All in with chris hayes starts right now. Tonight on all in. Are you going to talk to mueller . Im looking forward to it actually. Reporter new reporting the president wants a deal in return for talking to the mueller probe. Then five days after defying the special counsel. Theyre trying to set up a perjury case againstologier stone. Look who just showed up to his grand jury interview. Plus, the white house blows off a republican investigation. Reaction to the president s decision to meet with kim johnun and todays huge and historic loss for the nra as a gun control bill becomes law in